Thread: mkid reference
Hi! in src/tools/make_diff/ there is a reference: "If I use mkid (from ftp.postgreSQL.org), I can do:" There is no such thing on our download site, and I can't find what it even was at one point. Was this part of some other package, since removed? And maybe even more interestnig -- is there a point to this whole make_diff directory at all in these days of git? Or should we just remove it rather than try to fix it? -- Magnus Hagander Me: https://www.hagander.net/ Work: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/
> On 22 Jan 2021, at 12:56, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote: > And maybe even more interestnig -- is there a point to this whole > make_diff directory at all in these days of git? Or should we just > remove it rather than try to fix it? There's also src/tools/make_mkid which use this mkid tool. +1 for removing. If anything, it seems better replaced by extended documentation on the existing wiki article [0] on how to use "git format-patch". -- Daniel Gustafsson https://vmware.com/ [0] https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Working_with_Git
Le ven. 22 janv. 2021 à 20:33, Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se> a écrit :
> On 22 Jan 2021, at 12:56, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote:
> And maybe even more interestnig -- is there a point to this whole
> make_diff directory at all in these days of git? Or should we just
> remove it rather than try to fix it?
There's also src/tools/make_mkid which use this mkid tool. +1 for removing.
If anything, it seems better replaced by extended documentation on the existing
wiki article [0] on how to use "git format-patch".
definitely +1
Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se> writes:
>> On 22 Jan 2021, at 12:56, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote:
>> And maybe even more interestnig -- is there a point to this whole
>> make_diff directory at all in these days of git? Or should we just
>> remove it rather than try to fix it?
> There's also src/tools/make_mkid which use this mkid tool. +1 for removing.
> If anything, it seems better replaced by extended documentation on the existing
> wiki article [0] on how to use "git format-patch".
I found man pages for mkid online --- it's apparently a ctags-like
code indexing tool, not something for patches. So maybe Bruce still
uses it, or maybe not. But as long as we've also got make_ctags and
make_etags in there, I don't have a problem with leaving make_mkid.
make_diff, on the other hand, certainly looks like technology whose
time has passed. I wonder about pgtest, too.
regards, tom lane
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 7:07 PM Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > > Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se> writes: > >> On 22 Jan 2021, at 12:56, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote: > >> And maybe even more interestnig -- is there a point to this whole > >> make_diff directory at all in these days of git? Or should we just > >> remove it rather than try to fix it? > > > There's also src/tools/make_mkid which use this mkid tool. +1 for removing. > > If anything, it seems better replaced by extended documentation on the existing > > wiki article [0] on how to use "git format-patch". > > I found man pages for mkid online --- it's apparently a ctags-like > code indexing tool, not something for patches. So maybe Bruce still > uses it, or maybe not. But as long as we've also got make_ctags and > make_etags in there, I don't have a problem with leaving make_mkid. > > make_diff, on the other hand, certainly looks like technology whose > time has passed. I wonder about pgtest, too. I'll go kill make_diff then -- quicker than fixing the docs of it. As for pgtest, that one looks a bit interesting as well -- but it's been patched on as late as 9.5 and in 2018, so it seems at least Bruce uses it :) While at it, what point is "codelines" adding? -- Magnus Hagander Me: https://www.hagander.net/ Work: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 01:07:36PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > > There's also src/tools/make_mkid which use this mkid tool. +1 for removing. > > If anything, it seems better replaced by extended documentation on the existing > > wiki article [0] on how to use "git format-patch". > > I found man pages for mkid online --- it's apparently a ctags-like > code indexing tool, not something for patches. So maybe Bruce still > uses it, or maybe not. But as long as we've also got make_ctags and Yes, I do still use it, so I thought having a script to generate its index files might be helpful to someone. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com The usefulness of a cup is in its emptiness, Bruce Lee
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 02:20:58PM +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote: > > I found man pages for mkid online --- it's apparently a ctags-like > > code indexing tool, not something for patches. So maybe Bruce still > > uses it, or maybe not. But as long as we've also got make_ctags and > > make_etags in there, I don't have a problem with leaving make_mkid. > > > > make_diff, on the other hand, certainly looks like technology whose > > time has passed. I wonder about pgtest, too. > > I'll go kill make_diff then -- quicker than fixing the docs of it. > > As for pgtest, that one looks a bit interesting as well -- but it's > been patched on as late as 9.5 and in 2018, so it seems at least Bruce > uses it :) Yes, that is how I noticed the ecpg/preproc.y warning this past weekend. > While at it, what point is "codelines" adding? That is the script I use to generate code line counts when comparing releases. I thought it should be in the tree so others can reproduce my numbers. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com The usefulness of a cup is in its emptiness, Bruce Lee
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 4:38 PM Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 01:07:36PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > > > There's also src/tools/make_mkid which use this mkid tool. +1 for removing. > > > If anything, it seems better replaced by extended documentation on the existing > > > wiki article [0] on how to use "git format-patch". > > > > I found man pages for mkid online --- it's apparently a ctags-like > > code indexing tool, not something for patches. So maybe Bruce still > > uses it, or maybe not. But as long as we've also got make_ctags and > > Yes, I do still use it, so I thought having a script to generate its > index files might be helpful to someone. Where do you actually get it? The old docs (now removed) suggested getting it off ftp.postgresql.org... -- Magnus Hagander Me: https://www.hagander.net/ Work: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 05:03:30PM +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 4:38 PM Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 01:07:36PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> > > > There's also src/tools/make_mkid which use this mkid tool. +1 for removing.
> > > > If anything, it seems better replaced by extended documentation on the existing
> > > > wiki article [0] on how to use "git format-patch".
> > >
> > > I found man pages for mkid online --- it's apparently a ctags-like
> > > code indexing tool, not something for patches. So maybe Bruce still
> > > uses it, or maybe not. But as long as we've also got make_ctags and
> >
> > Yes, I do still use it, so I thought having a script to generate its
> > index files might be helpful to someone.
>
> Where do you actually get it? The old docs (now removed) suggested
> getting it off ftp.postgresql.org...
Not sure why it was on our ftp site, since it is a GNU download:
https://www.gnu.org/software/idutils/
--
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us
EDB https://enterprisedb.com
The usefulness of a cup is in its emptiness, Bruce Lee
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 6:58 PM Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 05:03:30PM +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 4:38 PM Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 01:07:36PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > > > > > There's also src/tools/make_mkid which use this mkid tool. +1 for removing. > > > > > If anything, it seems better replaced by extended documentation on the existing > > > > > wiki article [0] on how to use "git format-patch". > > > > > > > > I found man pages for mkid online --- it's apparently a ctags-like > > > > code indexing tool, not something for patches. So maybe Bruce still > > > > uses it, or maybe not. But as long as we've also got make_ctags and > > > > > > Yes, I do still use it, so I thought having a script to generate its > > > index files might be helpful to someone. > > > > Where do you actually get it? The old docs (now removed) suggested > > getting it off ftp.postgresql.org... > > Not sure why it was on our ftp site, since it is a GNU download: > > https://www.gnu.org/software/idutils/ Ah, good. Then at least we now have it in the list archives for reference if somebody else searches for it :) And no, it wasn't actually on our ftp server. But it might have been at some point far far in the past... -- Magnus Hagander Me: https://www.hagander.net/ Work: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 4:40 PM Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 02:20:58PM +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote: > > While at it, what point is "codelines" adding? > > That is the script I use to generate code line counts when comparing > releases. I thought it should be in the tree so others can reproduce my > numbers. Not that it particularly matters to keep it, but wouldn't something like cloc give a much better number? -- Magnus Hagander Me: https://www.hagander.net/ Work: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 10:19:44PM +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 4:40 PM Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 02:20:58PM +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote: > > > While at it, what point is "codelines" adding? > > > > That is the script I use to generate code line counts when comparing > > releases. I thought it should be in the tree so others can reproduce my > > numbers. > > Not that it particularly matters to keep it, but wouldn't something > like cloc give a much better number? Yes, we could, but we didn't really have any criteria on exactly what to count, so I just counted physical lines. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com The usefulness of a cup is in its emptiness, Bruce Lee