Thread: bad entries at proffesional services and hosting providers
Hi, I have a list of $subject from the southamerica region, how would be the right way to report those? There was a time when i could act on those entries by myself but it seems i'm a mere mortal now -- Jaime Casanova Consultores de PostgreSQL
On 12/17/20 11:50 PM, Jaime Casanova wrote: > Hi, > > I have a list of $subject from the southamerica region, how would be > the right way to report those? Here or webmaster@ is fine. I do a periodic pruning of the entries (I believe the last one was ~1 year ago). Note that based on how it's a bad entry, it may require additional verification on the moderation team's part. Thanks, Jonathan
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On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 8:27 AM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: > > On 12/17/20 11:50 PM, Jaime Casanova wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a list of $subject from the southamerica region, how would be > > the right way to report those? > > Here or webmaster@ is fine. > > I do a periodic pruning of the entries (I believe the last one was ~1 > year ago). > > Note that based on how it's a bad entry, it may require additional > verification on the moderation team's part. > yes, of course. So i will list them here. == These sites do not contain any reference, that we could find at least, to: postgresql, services for postgresql nor any postgresql-based products. A & W asociados, C.A. http://www.awasociados.com website does not respond, while there is a www.awasociados.net, it seems a different company (a different country and with services not postgresql related) Corvus Data http://www.corvusdata.com.mx/ website contain references to postgresql services, but no link points to a page explaining those services instead they point to a strange “about me” page DBAS http://www.dbas.me/ website requires more investigation, it only includes a button to send an email. But it specifies they work with postgresql. EQ Soft Consultoría y Soporte EIRL http://www.eqsoft.net/ we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway Mondrian Tecnologia http://www.mondriantecnologia.com/ when we originally tested the url, the website did not respond. Now it shows a banner saying is on maintenance, so maybe we should contact them or just wait some time and recheck. Pgopen http://www.pgopen.com.br/ El sitio web indicado no menciona en absoluto a Postgresql como servicio o plataforma ofrecida y tampoco contiene información sobre algún tipo de servicio relacionado con PG. En ninguna parte del sitio web de la empresa aparece siquiera el nombre Postgresql. Linux Solutions https://linuxsolutions.com.br/ we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway Ideasoft Uruguay SRL https://www.ideasoft.biz/ we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway IPSOFT S.A. https://www.ipsoft-sa.com/ we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway TELEMATICA S.A. https://www.telematica.com.pe/ we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway == in doubt == Engine Yard, Inc. http://www.engineyard.com/ we are in doubt about this entry, it mentions postgresql in only one page that we can see and it is in the middle of a list of other databases they support. Also not sure if the fact that it could provide services worldwide allows a provider to be listed on all regions InfraCoop https://www.infracoop.com.ar/ they don’t mention postgresql in their services, but they do mention it on the skills on their staff nonetheless the last postgresql-related blog was 5 years ago -- Jaime Casanova Consultores en PostgreSQL
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 4:51 PM Jaime Casanova <jcasanov@systemguards.com.ec> wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 8:27 AM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: > > > > On 12/17/20 11:50 PM, Jaime Casanova wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a list of $subject from the southamerica region, how would be > > > the right way to report those? > > > > Here or webmaster@ is fine. > > > > I do a periodic pruning of the entries (I believe the last one was ~1 > > year ago). > > > > Note that based on how it's a bad entry, it may require additional > > verification on the moderation team's part. > > > > yes, of course. > > So i will list them here. > [... trim a lot of not complying sites ...] so, are we going to do something about this or we just don't care? just wanted to know if I should keep using my time on this -- Jaime Casanova CTO - SystemGuards Consultores de PostgreSQL
On 1/16/21 11:38 PM, Jaime Casanova wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 4:51 PM Jaime Casanova > <jcasanov@systemguards.com.ec> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 8:27 AM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: >>> >>> On 12/17/20 11:50 PM, Jaime Casanova wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have a list of $subject from the southamerica region, how would be >>>> the right way to report those? >>> >>> Here or webmaster@ is fine. >>> >>> I do a periodic pruning of the entries (I believe the last one was ~1 >>> year ago). >>> >>> Note that based on how it's a bad entry, it may require additional >>> verification on the moderation team's part. >>> >> >> yes, of course. >> >> So i will list them here. >> > > [... trim a lot of not complying sites ...] > > so, are we going to do something about this or we just don't care? > just wanted to know if I should keep using my time on this There is care, but there are also other priorities on the moderation team, both professionally and personally. However, I will take care of this right now. Jonathan
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On 12/28/20 4:51 PM, Jaime Casanova wrote: > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 8:27 AM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: > == These sites do not contain any reference, that we could find at > least, to: postgresql, services for postgresql nor any > postgresql-based products. > > A & W asociados, C.A. Confirmed and removed. > Corvus Data > http://www.corvusdata.com.mx/ > website contain references to postgresql services, but no link points > to a page explaining those services instead they point to a strange > “about me” page I was able to get to a listing about PostgreSQL training from the homepage: https://corvusdata.com.mx/2021/01/14/curso-postgresql/ Overall, it's not up to the moderation team to judge the quality of the website unless it's in flagrant disregard of the policy.[1] > DBAS > http://www.dbas.me/ > website requires more investigation, it only includes a button to send > an email. But it specifies they work with postgresql. The entry and website are good enough to meet policy[1]. > EQ Soft Consultoría y Soporte EIRL > http://www.eqsoft.net/ > we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway I clicked into the website and found the owner listing experience with PostgreSQL: http://www.eqsoft.net/trabajo/requerimiento-de-personal-noviembre-2019/ > Mondrian Tecnologia > http://www.mondriantecnologia.com/ > when we originally tested the url, the website did not respond. Now it > shows a banner saying is on maintenance, so maybe we should contact > them or just wait some time and recheck. I would recommend contacting them in this case. > Pgopen > http://www.pgopen.com.br/ > El sitio web indicado no menciona en absoluto a Postgresql como > servicio o plataforma ofrecida y tampoco contiene información sobre > algún tipo de servicio relacionado con PG. En ninguna parte del sitio > web de la empresa aparece siquiera el nombre Postgresql. I found information that they provide PostgreSQL services: http://www.pgopen.com.br/pgopen-amplia-seus-atendimentos/ > Linux Solutions > https://linuxsolutions.com.br/ > we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway I found a URL referencing a PostgreSQL training course: https://linuxsolutions.com.br/ajuda-linux-dia-70-introducao-ao-postgresql-dia-1/ Perhaps they have pivoted away from providing services around PostgreSQL and it would be worth reaching out to them. > Ideasoft Uruguay SRL > https://www.ideasoft.biz/ > we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway I found some support tickets subdomain on their site related to PostgreSQL. I believe the correct course of action would be to reach out to them and see if they still support PostgreSQL. > > IPSOFT S.A. > https://www.ipsoft-sa.com/ > we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway I agree. It seems they have pivoted. I have removed this. > TELEMATICA S.A. > https://www.telematica.com.pe/ > we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway I found information both on Postgres + PostGIS, e.g: https://www.telematica.com.pe/que-hay-de-nuevo-en-arcmap-10-6/ They appear to specialize in GIS work. > == in doubt == > > Engine Yard, Inc. > http://www.engineyard.com/ > we are in doubt about this entry, it mentions postgresql in only one > page that we can see and it is in the middle of a list of other > databases they support. Also not sure if the fact that it could > provide services worldwide allows a provider to be listed on all > regions Engine Yard still supports PostgreSQL: https://www.engineyard.com/postgresql-database-hosting/ > InfraCoop > https://www.infracoop.com.ar/ > they don’t mention postgresql in their services, but they do mention > it on the skills on their staff nonetheless the last > postgresql-related blog was 5 years ago On the homepage, there is a customer reference that appears to talk about their PostgreSQL modernization efforts. For next steps, I am happy to reach out to the two in question and see if I get a response. >> so, are we going to do something about this or we just don't care? >> just wanted to know if I should keep using my time on this > > There is care, but there are also other priorities on the moderation > team, both professionally and personally. > > However, I will take care of this right now. A follow up on this comment: note that your original reply to it came during a week where many people were on holiday, and roughly two weeks after we first corresponded on it. This was certainly in my backlog to review and I appreciate the nudge, but I want to note that this is not due to a lack of care, but as mentioned, priorities both in and out of the community. Thanks, Jonathan [1] https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/services-and-hosting/
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On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 9:27 AM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: > > On 1/16/21 11:38 PM, Jaime Casanova wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 4:51 PM Jaime Casanova > > <jcasanov@systemguards.com.ec> wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 8:27 AM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> On 12/17/20 11:50 PM, Jaime Casanova wrote: > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> I have a list of $subject from the southamerica region, how would be > >>>> the right way to report those? > >>> > >>> Here or webmaster@ is fine. > >>> > >>> I do a periodic pruning of the entries (I believe the last one was ~1 > >>> year ago). > >>> > >>> Note that based on how it's a bad entry, it may require additional > >>> verification on the moderation team's part. > >>> > >> > >> yes, of course. > >> > >> So i will list them here. > >> > > > > [... trim a lot of not complying sites ...] > > > > so, are we going to do something about this or we just don't care? > > just wanted to know if I should keep using my time on this > > There is care, but there are also other priorities on the moderation > team, both professionally and personally. > Thanks for looking into this. Sorry if I sounded rude, it wasn't my intention but I have bad memories about trying to collaborate in this area. I understand it was another time and other people. -- Jaime Casanova CTO - SystemGuards Consultores de PostgreSQL
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 9:48 AM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: > > On 12/28/20 4:51 PM, Jaime Casanova wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 8:27 AM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: > [...] > > > Corvus Data > > http://www.corvusdata.com.mx/ > > website contain references to postgresql services, but no link points > > to a page explaining those services instead they point to a strange > > “about me” page > > I was able to get to a listing about PostgreSQL training from the homepage: > > https://corvusdata.com.mx/2021/01/14/curso-postgresql/ > > Overall, it's not up to the moderation team to judge the quality of the > website unless it's in flagrant disregard of the policy.[1] > interesting. in my defense, these entries were added on january 2021 so they weren't when we looked at them > > DBAS > > http://www.dbas.me/ > > website requires more investigation, it only includes a button to send > > an email. But it specifies they work with postgresql. > > The entry and website are good enough to meet policy[1]. > I'm contacting them, I'm not sure they are actually active but will confirm > > EQ Soft Consultoría y Soporte EIRL > > http://www.eqsoft.net/ > > we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway > > I clicked into the website and found the owner listing experience with > PostgreSQL: > > http://www.eqsoft.net/trabajo/requerimiento-de-personal-noviembre-2019/ > that's not owner experience but looking for new people with those skills, anyway I'm not disputing the experience they have... and there was a time when they actually advertized that they provided postgresql services But what policy actually says is that "services must be related to PostgreSQL in some direct and obvious way" and that is not the case. Not that I'm completely happy with policy, maybe we need to look at it first before continuing with this exercise? > > Mondrian Tecnologia > > http://www.mondriantecnologia.com/ > > when we originally tested the url, the website did not respond. Now it > > shows a banner saying is on maintenance, so maybe we should contact > > them or just wait some time and recheck. > > I would recommend contacting them in this case. > will do > > Pgopen > > http://www.pgopen.com.br/ > > El sitio web indicado no menciona en absoluto a Postgresql como > > servicio o plataforma ofrecida y tampoco contiene información sobre > > algún tipo de servicio relacionado con PG. En ninguna parte del sitio > > web de la empresa aparece siquiera el nombre Postgresql. > > I found information that they provide PostgreSQL services: > > http://www.pgopen.com.br/pgopen-amplia-seus-atendimentos/ > that post is from 2015 and published by a postgresql dba that no longer works there, maybe i should contact them to understand if they already provides the service > > Linux Solutions > > https://linuxsolutions.com.br/ > > we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway > > I found a URL referencing a PostgreSQL training course: > > https://linuxsolutions.com.br/ajuda-linux-dia-70-introducao-ao-postgresql-dia-1/ > > Perhaps they have pivoted away from providing services around PostgreSQL > and it would be worth reaching out to them. > looking again I found 4 5-minutes videos about postgresql between 2016 and 2017, will try to contact them to confirm > > Ideasoft Uruguay SRL > > https://www.ideasoft.biz/ > > we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway > > I found some support tickets subdomain on their site related to > PostgreSQL. I believe the correct course of action would be to reach out > to them and see if they still support PostgreSQL. > will do > > > > IPSOFT S.A. > > https://www.ipsoft-sa.com/ > > we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway > > I agree. It seems they have pivoted. I have removed this. > > > TELEMATICA S.A. > > https://www.telematica.com.pe/ > > we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway > > I found information both on Postgres + PostGIS, e.g: > > https://www.telematica.com.pe/que-hay-de-nuevo-en-arcmap-10-6/ > > They appear to specialize in GIS work. > I noted that, again I will point at the policy that requires "services must be related to PostgreSQL in some direct and obvious way" (note that I'm ignoring the "All services" and just saying "Any service") Again, maybe we need to review the policy > > == in doubt == > > > > Engine Yard, Inc. > > http://www.engineyard.com/ > > we are in doubt about this entry, it mentions postgresql in only one > > page that we can see and it is in the middle of a list of other > > databases they support. Also not sure if the fact that it could > > provide services worldwide allows a provider to be listed on all > > regions > > Engine Yard still supports PostgreSQL: > > https://www.engineyard.com/postgresql-database-hosting/ > > > InfraCoop > > https://www.infracoop.com.ar/ > > they don’t mention postgresql in their services, but they do mention > > it on the skills on their staff nonetheless the last > > postgresql-related blog was 5 years ago > > On the homepage, there is a customer reference that appears to talk > about their PostgreSQL modernization efforts. > > For next steps, I am happy to reach out to the two in question and see > if I get a response. > I can do it myself also, whatever works for you thanks -- Jaime Casanova CTO - SystemGuards Consultores de PostgreSQL
On 1/17/21 7:39 PM, Jaime Casanova wrote: > On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 9:48 AM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: >> >> On 12/28/20 4:51 PM, Jaime Casanova wrote: >>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 8:27 AM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: >> >>> Corvus Data >>> http://www.corvusdata.com.mx/ > > interesting. in my defense, these entries were added on january 2021 > so they weren't when we looked at them The fun thing about moderating these sections of the website: after you make a pass at it, it immediately becomes stale ;) It is a classic cat & mouse game. >>> DBAS >>> http://www.dbas.me/ >>> website requires more investigation, it only includes a button to send >>> an email. But it specifies they work with postgresql. >> >> The entry and website are good enough to meet policy[1]. >> > > I'm contacting them, I'm not sure they are actually active but will confirm Please see my note below about reaching out. >>> EQ Soft Consultoría y Soporte EIRL >>> http://www.eqsoft.net/ >>> we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway >> >> I clicked into the website and found the owner listing experience with >> PostgreSQL: >> >> http://www.eqsoft.net/trabajo/requerimiento-de-personal-noviembre-2019/ >> > > that's not owner experience but looking for new people with those > skills, anyway I'm not disputing the experience they have... and there > was a time when they actually advertized that they provided postgresql > services > > But what policy actually says is that "services must be related to > PostgreSQL in some direct and obvious way" and that is not the case. > Not that I'm completely happy with policy, maybe we need to look at it > first before continuing with this exercise? The policy states "Further, the web site you link to in the listing must somewhere mention PostgreSQL as an offered service or platform."[1] I think this fine. We have listings that range from solo practioners to multibillionaire organizations. I think the goal overall is to be encouraging. And as stated above, arguably each entry goes stale the moment after it's reviewed. It's the nature of the game. >>> Mondrian Tecnologia >>> http://www.mondriantecnologia.com/ >>> when we originally tested the url, the website did not respond. Now it >>> shows a banner saying is on maintenance, so maybe we should contact >>> them or just wait some time and recheck. >> >> I would recommend contacting them in this case. >> > > will do > >>> Pgopen >>> http://www.pgopen.com.br/ >>> El sitio web indicado no menciona en absoluto a Postgresql como >>> servicio o plataforma ofrecida y tampoco contiene información sobre >>> algún tipo de servicio relacionado con PG. En ninguna parte del sitio >>> web de la empresa aparece siquiera el nombre Postgresql. >> >> I found information that they provide PostgreSQL services: >> >> http://www.pgopen.com.br/pgopen-amplia-seus-atendimentos/ >> > > that post is from 2015 and published by a postgresql dba that no > longer works there, maybe i should contact them to understand if they > already provides the service Yes, I would agree with contacting them. >>> Linux Solutions >>> https://linuxsolutions.com.br/ >>> we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway >> >> I found a URL referencing a PostgreSQL training course: >> >> https://linuxsolutions.com.br/ajuda-linux-dia-70-introducao-ao-postgresql-dia-1/ >> >> Perhaps they have pivoted away from providing services around PostgreSQL >> and it would be worth reaching out to them. >> > > looking again I found 4 5-minutes videos about postgresql between 2016 > and 2017, will try to contact them to confirm Sounds good. >>> Ideasoft Uruguay SRL >>> https://www.ideasoft.biz/ >>> we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway >> >> I found some support tickets subdomain on their site related to >> PostgreSQL. I believe the correct course of action would be to reach out >> to them and see if they still support PostgreSQL. >> > > will do > >>> TELEMATICA S.A. >>> https://www.telematica.com.pe/ >>> we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway >> >> I found information both on Postgres + PostGIS, e.g: >> >> https://www.telematica.com.pe/que-hay-de-nuevo-en-arcmap-10-6/ >> >> They appear to specialize in GIS work. >> > > I noted that, again I will point at the policy that requires "services > must be related to PostgreSQL in some direct and obvious way" (note > that I'm ignoring the "All services" and just saying "Any service") If they are doing work with PostGIS, I believe that qualifies as being related to PostgreSQL. >> For next steps, I am happy to reach out to the two in question and see >> if I get a response. >> > > I can do it myself also, whatever works for you > thanks If you are reaching out to these organizations directly, please include webmaster@ on the correspondences, as that will save time on the moderation team verifying. Thanks again for working on this! Jonathan [1] https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/services-and-hosting/
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On 2021-Jan-18, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: > On 1/17/21 7:39 PM, Jaime Casanova wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 9:48 AM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: > >>> EQ Soft Consultoría y Soporte EIRL > >>> http://www.eqsoft.net/ > >>> we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway > >> > >> I clicked into the website and found the owner listing experience with > >> PostgreSQL: > >> > >> http://www.eqsoft.net/trabajo/requerimiento-de-personal-noviembre-2019/ > >> > > > > that's not owner experience but looking for new people with those > > skills, anyway I'm not disputing the experience they have... and there > > was a time when they actually advertized that they provided postgresql > > services > > > > But what policy actually says is that "services must be related to > > PostgreSQL in some direct and obvious way" and that is not the case. > > Not that I'm completely happy with policy, maybe we need to look at it > > first before continuing with this exercise? > > The policy states "Further, the web site you link to in the listing must > somewhere mention PostgreSQL as an offered service or platform."[1] I read this policy as: it must be possible to find Postgres-related services by browsing the website starting from the published URL. In this case, a person looking for Postgres services browses their website, they won't find anywhere that they are offering PostgreSQL services. As Jaime said, the post you found just says they are looking to hire somebody with Postgres experience, which is definitely not the same as offering Postgres services. I do not think that merely having the word "Postgres" somewhere in the website is enough to qualify. > >>> Mondrian Tecnologia > >>> http://www.mondriantecnologia.com/ > >>> when we originally tested the url, the website did not respond. Now it > >>> shows a banner saying is on maintenance, so maybe we should contact > >>> them or just wait some time and recheck. > >> > >> I would recommend contacting them in this case. > >> > > will do Website is back. There's no mention of Postgres anywhere, though the logo is an elephant. There is some "Lorem ipsum" content so we can wait a few days to see if they upload something relevant. I do not think that merely having an elephant as a logo is enough to qualify. -- Álvaro Herrera 39°49'30"S 73°17'W
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 4:44 PM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: > > On 1/17/21 7:39 PM, Jaime Casanova wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 9:48 AM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: > >> > > >>> DBAS > >>> http://www.dbas.me/ > >>> website requires more investigation, it only includes a button to send > >>> an email. But it specifies they work with postgresql. > >> > >> The entry and website are good enough to meet policy[1]. > >> > > > > I'm contacting them, I'm not sure they are actually active but will confirm > > Please see my note below about reaching out. > BTW, what I did was to ask for information about their services but not mentioning the postgresql.org entry. No answer 'till now. -- Jaime Casanova SystemGuards Consultores de PostgreSQL
On 1/21/21 5:03 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > On 2021-Jan-18, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: >> On 1/17/21 7:39 PM, Jaime Casanova wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 9:48 AM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: > >>>>> EQ Soft Consultoría y Soporte EIRL >>>>> http://www.eqsoft.net/ >>>>> we cannot find evidence that it relates to postgresql in anyway >>>> >>>> I clicked into the website and found the owner listing experience with >>>> PostgreSQL: >>>> >>>> http://www.eqsoft.net/trabajo/requerimiento-de-personal-noviembre-2019/ >>>> >>> >>> that's not owner experience but looking for new people with those >>> skills, anyway I'm not disputing the experience they have... and there >>> was a time when they actually advertized that they provided postgresql >>> services >>> >>> But what policy actually says is that "services must be related to >>> PostgreSQL in some direct and obvious way" and that is not the case. >>> Not that I'm completely happy with policy, maybe we need to look at it >>> first before continuing with this exercise? >> >> The policy states "Further, the web site you link to in the listing must >> somewhere mention PostgreSQL as an offered service or platform."[1] > > I read this policy as: it must be possible to find Postgres-related > services by browsing the website starting from the published URL. In > this case, a person looking for Postgres services browses their website, > they won't find anywhere that they are offering PostgreSQL services. > > As Jaime said, the post you found just says they are looking to hire > somebody with Postgres experience, which is definitely not the same as > offering Postgres services. I do not think that merely having the word > "Postgres" somewhere in the website is enough to qualify. I would suggest reaching out to get some clarity, if this has not already been done. As mentioned upthread, given the range of organizations that can post professional services, we try to ensure that they "check the boxes" of what needs to be listed with passing limited judgment on the quality of the content. >>>>> Mondrian Tecnologia >>>>> http://www.mondriantecnologia.com/ >>>>> when we originally tested the url, the website did not respond. Now it >>>>> shows a banner saying is on maintenance, so maybe we should contact >>>>> them or just wait some time and recheck. >>>> >>>> I would recommend contacting them in this case. >>>> >>> will do > > Website is back. There's no mention of Postgres anywhere, though the > logo is an elephant. There is some "Lorem ipsum" content so we can wait > a few days to see if they upload something relevant. I do not think > that merely having an elephant as a logo is enough to qualify. Yeah, skimming this, I think it should be removed. It seems to now fit the profile of entries that do get rejected. I will go ahead and do so. Thanks, Jonathan
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Hi, On 1/21/21 11:39 PM, Jaime Casanova wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 4:44 PM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: >> >> On 1/17/21 7:39 PM, Jaime Casanova wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 9:48 AM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: >>>> >> >>>>> DBAS >>>>> http://www.dbas.me/ >>>>> website requires more investigation, it only includes a button to send >>>>> an email. But it specifies they work with postgresql. >>>> >>>> The entry and website are good enough to meet policy[1]. >>>> >>> >>> I'm contacting them, I'm not sure they are actually active but will confirm >> >> Please see my note below about reaching out. >> > > BTW, what I did was to ask for information about their services but > not mentioning the postgresql.org entry. > No answer 'till now. Are there any updates on the outstanding questions on this thread? Thanks, Jonathan
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On 3/15/21 5:05 AM, Justin Clift wrote: > On 2021-03-15 02:38, Jonathan S. Katz wrote: >> On 3/3/21 11:07 PM, Jaime Casanova wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 10:16 AM Jonathan S. Katz >>> <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Are there any updates on the outstanding questions on this thread? >>>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I got errors from info@dbas.me, i tried from two different mail >>> accounts and waited some time between both tries. >>> I also got an error when verifying the mail in >>> https://tools.verifyemailaddress.io/ >> >> Thanks Jaime. I have delisted the entry for the time being and reached >> out via the administrative interface. If I do not hear back, I will >> remove the entry completely. > > As a data point, I also emailed them when Jaime's message came through. > > Didn't get any response either. ;) I forgot to mention -- I fully removed this entry earlier in the week. I received a bouneback on one of the moderation emails, which made it a fairly straightforward decision. Thanks, Jonathan