Thread: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

Thanks for your quick answer!

If have anything I can test for you, would be my pleasure.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

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De: Dave Page
Enviado:terça-feira, 17 de outubro de 2017 08:48
Para: Edson Richter
Cc:Pgadmin-Support@Postgresql. Org
Assunto: Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

 

Looking at this is on my TODO, however I'm currently having issues spinning up a Windows Server VM which are holding things up.

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Edson Richter <edsonrichter@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled.

 

I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference.

 

I'll appreciate your help.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

 

 

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Thanks. FYI, I'm now trying to test with a Windows 10 PC as the client, on a hi-dpi screen. Typically though, the PC and screen are refusing to talk to each other right now :-(. If that works, I'll have to dig out a copy of Windows 2008.

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Edson Richter <edsonrichter@hotmail.com> wrote:

Also found another reference: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41315873/attempting-to-resolve-blurred-tkinter-text-scaling-on-windows-10-high-dpi-disp

 

Regards,

 

Edson

 

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De: Edson Richter
Enviado:quarta-feira, 18 de outubro de 2017 08:06
Para: Pgadmin-Support@Postgresql. Org
Assunto: RES: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

 

 

De: Dave Page
Enviado:quarta-feira, 18 de outubro de 2017 06:59
Para: Edson Richter
Cc:Pgadmin-Support@Postgresql. Org
Assunto: Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

 

Hi

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Edson Richter <edsonrichter@hotmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for your quick answer!

If have anything I can test for you, would be my pleasure.

 

I've tried this here with Windows 2012 R2 Datacenter at the server, and Microsoft Remote Desktop 8.0.43 on macOS 10.12.6, and everything looks fine for me. Remote Desktop is running at 1600x1000 in 24bit colour. 

 

What exactly are you running on the client and server?

 

Server:

 

Windows Server 2008 r2 x64 running over VMWare ESXi 6, 24Gb RAM, 8 core on Dell r420.

 

Client:

 

Desktop Hp Pavilion Mini 300-201br Intel Core I3 4gb, Windows 10 Home x64 and Intel HD Graphics 5000

 

Software config:

 

- On server: Remote Desktop Services (nothing special here). Allows everything except audio.

- On client: Remote Desktop, 32 bit colour, full screen, “all monitors” (I’ve 2 x LG 24” 1920x1080, 59Hz), no sound, no printer, enable background, enable smooth font, enable desktop composition, enable visual styles, enable bitmap cache, enable reconnect, connection type low velocity broadband (256Kbps-2Mbps).

 

 

I believe the problem is related to DPI in my monitor (currently, Windows 10 allows me to choose 100% - which I use – or other scales, like 125%, 150%, even 200% or custom up to 500%).

 

I’ve found a interesting article about DPI in Windows (it is a mess, I know): http://kynosarges.org/WindowsDpi.html

 

I hope all this info helps.

 

Notice that pgAdmin4 is the only app suffering of this wierd behavior (pgAdmin3 works fine, as well hundreds of other apps).

 

Edson.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

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De: Dave Page
Enviado:terça-feira, 17 de outubro de 2017 08:48
Para: Edson Richter
Cc:Pgadmin-Support@Postgresql. Org
Assunto: Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

 

Looking at this is on my TODO, however I'm currently having issues spinning up a Windows Server VM which are holding things up.

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Edson Richter <edsonrichter@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled.

 

I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference.

 

I'll appreciate your help.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

 

 

--

Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

 

 

--

Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

 

 

--

Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

See attached image for your reference...

Just to reinforce, this happens only with PgAdmin4.

All other apps run fine (native legacy apps, .Net apps, Java apps).

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

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De: Edson Richter <edsonrichter@hotmail.com>
Enviado: Friday, December 1, 2017 3:34:05 PM
Para: Dave Page
Cc: Pgadmin-Support@Postgresql. Org

Assunto: RES: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

 

I’ve made some futher analisys of the problem, and found that text becomes even worse if I’m using RDS with 16bit colors. I’ve checked and our server is limited to 24 bit colors.

Maybe this is somehow related.

 

Regards,

 

Edson

 

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De: Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Enviado: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 2:29:34 PM
Para: Edson Richter
Cc: Pgadmin-Support@Postgresql. Org
Assunto: Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

 

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:

Quick update on this - no matter what interface we tried, my Windows PC (which claims to support 4K) refused to talk to a 4K monitor. We've therefore ordered a Windows laptop with 4K display. I'm travelling for the next week, but hopefully it should be here when I get back...

And it works just fine with Windows 10 on the 4K display, connecting to Windows 2012. I think the only other notable environment difference is Windows 2012r2 vs. Windows 2008r2, so my next step is to get that installed...

 

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:

Thanks. FYI, I'm now trying to test with a Windows 10 PC as the client, on a hi-dpi screen. Typically though, the PC and screen are refusing to talk to each other right now :-(. If that works, I'll have to dig out a copy of Windows 2008.

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Edson Richter <edsonrichter@hotmail.com> wrote:

Also found another reference: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41315873/attempting-to-resolve-blurred-tkinter-text-scaling-on-windows-10-high-dpi-disp

 

Regards,

 

Edson

 

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De: Edson Richter
Enviado:quarta-feira, 18 de outubro de 2017 08:06
Para: Pgadmin-Support@Postgresql. Org
Assunto: RES: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

 

 

De: Dave Page
Enviado:quarta-feira, 18 de outubro de 2017 06:59
Para: Edson Richter
Cc:Pgadmin-Support@Postgresql. Org
Assunto: Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

 

Hi

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Edson Richter <edsonrichter@hotmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for your quick answer!

If have anything I can test for you, would be my pleasure.

 

I've tried this here with Windows 2012 R2 Datacenter at the server, and Microsoft Remote Desktop 8.0.43 on macOS 10.12.6, and everything looks fine for me. Remote Desktop is running at 1600x1000 in 24bit colour. 

 

What exactly are you running on the client and server?

 

Server:

 

Windows Server 2008 r2 x64 running over VMWare ESXi 6, 24Gb RAM, 8 core on Dell r420.

 

Client:

 

Desktop Hp Pavilion Mini 300-201br Intel Core I3 4gb, Windows 10 Home x64 and Intel HD Graphics 5000

 

Software config:

 

- On server: Remote Desktop Services (nothing special here). Allows everything except audio.

- On client: Remote Desktop, 32 bit colour, full screen, “all monitors” (I’ve 2 x LG 24” 1920x1080, 59Hz), no sound, no printer, enable background, enable smooth font, enable desktop composition, enable visual styles, enable bitmap cache, enable reconnect, connection type low velocity broadband (256Kbps-2Mbps).

 

 

I believe the problem is related to DPI in my monitor (currently, Windows 10 allows me to choose 100% - which I use – or other scales, like 125%, 150%, even 200% or custom up to 500%).

 

I’ve found a interesting article about DPI in Windows (it is a mess, I know): http://kynosarges.org/WindowsDpi.html

 

I hope all this info helps.

 

Notice that pgAdmin4 is the only app suffering of this wierd behavior (pgAdmin3 works fine, as well hundreds of other apps).

 

Edson.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 

De: Dave Page
Enviado:terça-feira, 17 de outubro de 2017 08:48
Para: Edson Richter
Cc:Pgadmin-Support@Postgresql. Org
Assunto: Re: Faded text in pgAdmin 4 2.0/Win Server 2008r2

 

Looking at this is on my TODO, however I'm currently having issues spinning up a Windows Server VM which are holding things up.

 

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Edson Richter <edsonrichter@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Must be something wrong in my setup: Windows Server 2008 r2 TS, acessing with two Full HD 24" monitors in 32bit color depth., themes disabled, font smoothing enabled, composition enabled, visual effects disabled.

 

I just can't read texts... They are "faded". See attached screenshot for reference.

 

I'll appreciate your help.

 

Regards,

 

Edson Richter

 

 

 

 

--

Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

 

 

--

Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

 

 

--

Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

--

Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

--

Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

Hi Dave,


Dave Page-7 wrote
> Please try the test build at
> https://developer.pgadmin.org/~dpage/pivotal/pgadmin4-3.0-dev-x86.exe

did so and the fonts look fine and are readable without eye cancer. ;-)

But:
 - the GUI was not rendered in a separate OS-window (like when the problem
was observed) but within a new browser tab

 - on the first run, all the previuosly configured servers were absent, the
servers node in the tree was empty
- on the second run all the servers were shown and were accessible as
expected