Thread: [GENERAL] How to ALTER EXTENSION name OWNER TO new_owner ?
Hi, Why does ALTER EXTENSION name OWNER TO new_owner; not exist? I have a bunch of extensions that were installed by a role that I want to drop. So I thought I would do like I do for other object types: ALTER <object_type> name OWNER TO new_owner; But that doesn't exist for extensions. I also can't drop the extension and recreate it because other objects depend on it. What can I do? This is on PostgreSQL 9.3. Thanks, Colin
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Colin 't Hart <colinthart@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Why does
ALTER EXTENSION name OWNER TO new_owner;
not exist?
I have a bunch of extensions that were installed by a role that I want
to drop. So I thought I would do like I do for other object types:
ALTER <object_type> name OWNER TO new_owner;
But that doesn't exist for extensions. I also can't drop the extension
and recreate it because other objects depend on it.
What can I do?
This is on PostgreSQL 9.3.
Thanks,
Colin
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AFAIK, extensions do not have an owner. They just exist and are available to everyone.
If you are having a particular problem (other than owner) with an extension, it would be helpful toIf an error occurs, then please advise on that and include the exact message.
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On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Melvin Davidson <melvin6925@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Colin 't Hart <colinthart@gmail.com> wrote:Hi,
Why does
ALTER EXTENSION name OWNER TO new_owner;
not exist?
I have a bunch of extensions that were installed by a role that I want
to drop. So I thought I would do like I do for other object types:
ALTER <object_type> name OWNER TO new_owner;
But that doesn't exist for extensions. I also can't drop the extension
and recreate it because other objects depend on it.
What can I do?
This is on PostgreSQL 9.3.
Thanks,
Colin
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http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general post a script to illustrate that. You should be able to drop the role without any problem.AFAIK, extensions do not have an owner. They just exist and are available to everyone.If you are having a particular problem (other than owner) with an extension, it would be helpful toIf an error occurs, then please advise on that and include the exact message.--Melvin Davidson
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Hmm, I have to retract my previous statement, as the structure of pg_extension is:
CREATE TABLE pg_extension
(
extname name NOT NULL,
extowner oid NOT NULL,
extnamespace oid NOT NULL,
extrelocatable boolean NOT NULL,
extversion text,
extconfig oid[],
extcondition text[]
)
WITH (
OIDS=TRUE
);
(
extname name NOT NULL,
extowner oid NOT NULL,
extnamespace oid NOT NULL,
extrelocatable boolean NOT NULL,
extversion text,
extconfig oid[],
extcondition text[]
)
WITH (
OIDS=TRUE
);
So to solve your problem, as a superuser you can do:
SELECT oid, rolname
FROM pg_authid
WHERE rolname = '{new_owner}';
SELECT oid, rolname
FROM pg_authid
WHERE rolname = '{user_you_want_to_drop}';
Then:
UPDATE pg_extension
SET extowner = {oid_of_new_owner}
WHERE extowner = {oid_from_above_statement};
SET extowner = {oid_of_new_owner}
WHERE extowner = {oid_from_above_statement};
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Melvin Davidson <melvin6925@gmail.com> writes: > *UPDATE pg_extension SET extowner = {oid_of_new_owner} WHERE extowner = > {oid_from_above_statement};* Note you'll also have to modify the rows in pg_shdepend that reflect this ownership property. regards, tom lane
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > Melvin Davidson <melvin6925@gmail.com> writes: >> *UPDATE pg_extension SET extowner = {oid_of_new_owner} WHERE extowner = >> {oid_from_above_statement};* > > Note you'll also have to modify the rows in pg_shdepend that reflect > this ownership property. Seems like something that should be handled by alter doesn't it?
Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com> writes: > Seems like something that should be handled by alter doesn't it? I have some vague memory that we intentionally didn't implement ALTER EXTENSION OWNER because we were unsure what it ought to do about ownership of objects belonging to the extension. If the answer is "nothing" then it wouldn't be hard to add such a statement. regards, tom lane
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> Melvin Davidson <melvin6925@gmail.com> writes:
>> *UPDATE pg_extension SET extowner = {oid_of_new_owner} WHERE extowner =
>> {oid_from_above_statement};*
>
> Note you'll also have to modify the rows in pg_shdepend that reflect
> this ownership property.
Seems like something that should be handled by alter doesn't it?
In keeping with what Tom advised, the SQL to do that would be"
UPDATE pg_shdepend
SET refobjid = {oid_of_new_owner}
WHERE refobjid = {oid_of old_owner}
AND deptype = 'o';
However, as Scott suggested, there should definitely be an ALTER statement to change the owner of the extension UPDATE pg_shdepend
SET refobjid = {oid_of_new_owner}
WHERE refobjid = {oid_of old_owner}
AND deptype = 'o';
Perhaps in Version 10 or 11?
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Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com> writes:
> Seems like something that should be handled by alter doesn't it?
I have some vague memory that we intentionally didn't implement
ALTER EXTENSION OWNER because we were unsure what it ought to do
about ownership of objects belonging to the extension. If the answer
is "nothing" then it wouldn't be hard to add such a statement.
The documented contract of CREATE EXTENSION(1)/ALTER EXTENSION ADD MEMBER(2) requires that the extension owner and the owner of the member objects be one-and-the-same (I suppose the inclusion of DROP in (2) makes this debatable). I do not know what happens today if someone tries to ALTER OBJECT SET OWNER on a member object to a role other than the owner of the extension. From the docs I'd suggest that it should fail. Likewise, ALTER EXTENSION OWNER should cascade to all members - which (3), and normal dependency tracking, seems to make straight-forward.
1>The user who runs CREATE EXTENSION becomes the owner of the extension for purposes of later privilege checks, as well as the owner of any objects created by the extension's script.
2>You must own the extension to use ALTER EXTENSION. The ADD/DROP forms require ownership of the added/dropped object as well.
3>CREATE EXTENSION additionally records the identities of all the created objects, so that they can be dropped again if DROP EXTENSION is issued.
David J.
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:56 PM, David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:
Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com> writes:
> Seems like something that should be handled by alter doesn't it?
I have some vague memory that we intentionally didn't implement
ALTER EXTENSION OWNER because we were unsure what it ought to do
about ownership of objects belonging to the extension. If the answer
is "nothing" then it wouldn't be hard to add such a statement.The documented contract of CREATE EXTENSION(1)/ALTER EXTENSION ADD MEMBER(2) requires that the extension owner and the owner of the member objects be one-and-the-same (I suppose the inclusion of DROP in (2) makes this debatable). I do not know what happens today if someone tries to ALTER OBJECT SET OWNER on a member object to a role other than the owner of the extension. From the docs I'd suggest that it should fail. Likewise, ALTER EXTENSION OWNER should cascade to all members - which (3), and normal dependency tracking, seems to make straight-forward.1>The user who runs CREATE EXTENSION becomes the owner of the extension for purposes of later privilege checks, as well as the owner of any objects created by the extension's script.2>You must own the extension to use ALTER EXTENSION. The ADD/DROP forms require ownership of the added/dropped object as well.3>CREATE EXTENSION additionally records the identities of all the created objects, so that they can be dropped again if DROP EXTENSION is issued.David J.
David,
The problem is, The current owner of the extension needs to be dropped. No one should have to jump through hoops--
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On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:56 PM, David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com> writes:
> Seems like something that should be handled by alter doesn't it?
I have some vague memory that we intentionally didn't implement
ALTER EXTENSION OWNER because we were unsure what it ought to do
about ownership of objects belonging to the extension. If the answer
is "nothing" then it wouldn't be hard to add such a statement.The documented contract of CREATE EXTENSION(1)/ALTER EXTENSION ADD MEMBER(2) requires that the extension owner and the owner of the member objects be one-and-the-same (I suppose the inclusion of DROP in (2) makes this debatable). I do not know what happens today if someone tries to ALTER OBJECT SET OWNER on a member object to a role other than the owner of the extension. From the docs I'd suggest that it should fail. Likewise, ALTER EXTENSION OWNER should cascade to all members - which (3), and normal dependency tracking, seems to make straight-forward.1>The user who runs CREATE EXTENSION becomes the owner of the extension for purposes of later privilege checks, as well as the owner of any objects created by the extension's script.2>You must own the extension to use ALTER EXTENSION. The ADD/DROP forms require ownership of the added/dropped object as well.3>CREATE EXTENSION additionally records the identities of all the created objects, so that they can be dropped again if DROP EXTENSION is issued.David J.As Tom Lane has already pointed out, it would not be hard to add that.just to be able to do that. There is definitely a need for an ALTER EXTENSION name OWNER TO new_owner.David,The problem is, The current owner of the extension needs to be dropped. No one should have to jump through hoops
I'm not sure what it is you think I'm missing here. My only point was I'm tending to think that "nothing", while workable, diverges from what I would expect - that an extension and all of its member objects should, at all times, share a common owner. I don't imagine that either definition would be abnormally difficult to implement for v11.
I'm am wondering whether "REASSIGNED OWNED" needs fixing as well...since that command is specifically designed to handle this use case.
D
avid J.
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 3:00 PM, David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:56 PM, David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com> writes:
> Seems like something that should be handled by alter doesn't it?
I have some vague memory that we intentionally didn't implement
ALTER EXTENSION OWNER because we were unsure what it ought to do
about ownership of objects belonging to the extension. If the answer
is "nothing" then it wouldn't be hard to add such a statement.The documented contract of CREATE EXTENSION(1)/ALTER EXTENSION ADD MEMBER(2) requires that the extension owner and the owner of the member objects be one-and-the-same (I suppose the inclusion of DROP in (2) makes this debatable). I do not know what happens today if someone tries to ALTER OBJECT SET OWNER on a member object to a role other than the owner of the extension. From the docs I'd suggest that it should fail. Likewise, ALTER EXTENSION OWNER should cascade to all members - which (3), and normal dependency tracking, seems to make straight-forward.1>The user who runs CREATE EXTENSION becomes the owner of the extension for purposes of later privilege checks, as well as the owner of any objects created by the extension's script.2>You must own the extension to use ALTER EXTENSION. The ADD/DROP forms require ownership of the added/dropped object as well.3>CREATE EXTENSION additionally records the identities of all the created objects, so that they can be dropped again if DROP EXTENSION is issued.David J.As Tom Lane has already pointed out, it would not be hard to add that.just to be able to do that. There is definitely a need for an ALTER EXTENSION name OWNER TO new_owner.David,The problem is, The current owner of the extension needs to be dropped. No one should have to jump through hoopsI'm not sure what it is you think I'm missing here. My only point was I'm tending to think that "nothing", while workable, diverges from what I would expect - that an extension and all of its member objects should, at all times, share a common owner. I don't imagine that either definition would be abnormally difficult to implement for v11.I'm am wondering whether "REASSIGNED OWNED" needs fixing as well...since that command is specifically designed to handle this use case.David J.
>I'm am wondering whether "REASSIGNED OWNED" needs fixing as well
Possibly, but as the op is on 9.3, it is not available to him.
I would also argue that since "OWNER TO new_owner" is available in all other ALTER object statements, it is an omission and should be
included for extenstions as well..
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>I'm am wondering whether "REASSIGNED OWNED" needs fixing as wellPossibly, but as the op is on 9.3, it is not available to him.
You should check the docs again...
I would also argue that since "OWNER TO new_owner" is available in all other ALTER object statements, it is an omission and should beincluded for extenstions as well..
As am I, but omission or not I don't recall that we've ever back-patched new SQL grammar.
David J.
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 3:32 PM, David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:
>You should check the docs again...>I'm am wondering whether "REASSIGNED OWNED" needs fixing as wellPossibly, but as the op is on 9.3, it is not available to him.You should check the docs again...I would also argue that since "OWNER TO new_owner" is available in all other ALTER object statements, it is an omission and should beincluded for extenstions as well..As am I, but omission or not I don't recall that we've ever back-patched new SQL grammar.David J.
Yes, you are correct, it is in 9.3
>I don't recall that we've ever back-patched new SQL grammar.
I am not saying back patch, I am saying an enhancement for version 10 or 11.
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Would this be a relatively easy patch for a beginning contributor?
If so, I wouldn't mind having a go.
If so, I wouldn't mind having a go.
/Colin
On 9 August 2017 at 21:37, Melvin Davidson <melvin6925@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 3:32 PM, David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:>You should check the docs again...>I'm am wondering whether "REASSIGNED OWNED" needs fixing as wellPossibly, but as the op is on 9.3, it is not available to him.You should check the docs again...I would also argue that since "OWNER TO new_owner" is available in all other ALTER object statements, it is an omission and should beincluded for extenstions as well..As am I, but omission or not I don't recall that we've ever back-patched new SQL grammar.David J.Yes, you are correct, it is in 9.3>I don't recall that we've ever back-patched new SQL grammar.I am not saying back patch, I am saying an enhancement for version 10 or 11.
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