Thread: Ubuntu: Remove Wily, add Yakkety
The pop-up on https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/ still lists Ubuntu Wily (15.10), which is no longer supported as of 2016-07-28. Today, Ubuntu Yakkety (16.10) was released, so it seems like it might be a good time to retire 15.10 in favor of a set of 16.10 packages.
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Re: Jason Petersen 2016-10-13 <86BF732C-4B0F-40A0-92DC-199B92C79370@citusdata.com> > The pop-up on https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/ still lists Ubuntu Wily (15.10), which is no longer supportedas of 2016-07-28. Today, Ubuntu Yakkety (16.10) was released, so it seems like it might be a good time to retire15.10 in favor of a set of 16.10 packages. Hi Jason, thanks for spotting! www: can you please remove Wily from the dropdown box? Re Yakkety, we don't have a real policy yet on which non-LTS releases we are supporting (there's so many of them...). Historically we've added them once the most recent LTS packages started to be uninstallable due to dependencies. Rebuilding packages for the newly added distributions was always painful, but we have more experience with that now. Do we see a real user demand for the non-LTS releases so it would make sense to add them? (In the past, that wasn't always the case.) Christoph
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org> wrote:
-- Re: Jason Petersen 2016-10-13 <86BF732C-4B0F-40A0-92DC-199B92C79370@citusdata.com>
> The pop-up on https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/ still lists Ubuntu Wily (15.10), which is no longer supported as of 2016-07-28. Today, Ubuntu Yakkety (16.10) was released, so it seems like it might be a good time to retire 15.10 in favor of a set of 16.10 packages.
Hi Jason,
thanks for spotting!
www: can you please remove Wily from the dropdown box?
Done. Will update on the next reload.
To be over-clear, that leaves xenial, trusty and precise on the Ubuntu download page.
Re Yakkety, we don't have a real policy yet on which non-LTS releases
we are supporting (there's so many of them...). Historically we've
added them once the most recent LTS packages started to be
uninstallable due to dependencies. Rebuilding packages for the newly
added distributions was always painful, but we have more experience
with that now.
Do we see a real user demand for the non-LTS releases so it would make
sense to add them? (In the past, that wasn't always the case.)
Normally those versions already carry the latest version of postgres at their release time, right? So it's not like they are without postgres, or are stuck with a really old version?
Re: Magnus Hagander 2016-10-23 <CABUevEwhNKNu3Oes02NMwF7tFA=--_KTBSts7uiL9M7YSV4GvA@mail.gmail.com> > To be over-clear, that leaves xenial, trusty and precise on the Ubuntu > download page. Ack. > > Do we see a real user demand for the non-LTS releases so it would make > > sense to add them? (In the past, that wasn't always the case.) > > Normally those versions already carry the latest version of postgres at > their release time, right? So it's not like they are without postgres, or > are stuck with a really old version? The latest PG version released before freeze time, which is more likely the second-latest version for the NN.10 releases, given PG releases around September, and .10 is frozen some time before it: postgresql | 9.1+129 | precise | all postgresql | 9.3+154 | trusty | all postgresql | 9.4+166bzr2 | vivid | all postgresql | 9.5+173 | xenial | all postgresql | 9.5+176+git1 | yakkety | all postgresql | 9.5+176+git1 | zesty | all Christoph
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org> wrote:
Re: Magnus Hagander 2016-10-23 <CABUevEwhNKNu3Oes02NMwF7tFA=--_KTBSts7uiL9M7YSV4GvA@mail. gmail.com>
> To be over-clear, that leaves xenial, trusty and precise on the Ubuntu
> download page.
Ack.
> > Do we see a real user demand for the non-LTS releases so it would make
> > sense to add them? (In the past, that wasn't always the case.)
>
> Normally those versions already carry the latest version of postgres at
> their release time, right? So it's not like they are without postgres, or
> are stuck with a really old version?
The latest PG version released before freeze time, which is more
likely the second-latest version for the NN.10 releases, given PG
releases around September, and .10 is frozen some time before it:
Right. But they still receive a PostgreSQL version that's new enough that it will have a longer "support life" than the OS version itself.