Thread: Approval of announce posts
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On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 08:31:44PM -0000, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > > > Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Your message to phpPgAdmin-devel awaits moderator approval > ... > > Your mail to 'phpPgAdmin-devel' with the subject > > Would the person approving these please stop? > > If they are not being approved, we have a breakdown in the system. > I'm pretty sure someone is approving them, however. Sorry about that. Cheers, David. -- David Fetter <david@fetter.org> http://fetter.org/ Phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Yahoo!: dfetter Skype: davidfetter XMPP: david.fetter@gmail.com iCal: webcal://www.tripit.com/feed/ical/people/david74/tripit.ics Remember to vote! Consider donating to Postgres: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Greg Sabino Mullane <greg@turnstep.com> wrote: > If they are not being approved, we have a breakdown in the system. > I'm pretty sure someone is approving them, however. Someone is again approving announce posts that shouldn't be approved. We don't need to broadcast a discussion of which events will be recorded and how to get a visa to our entire readership. -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Greg Sabino Mullane <greg@turnstep.com> wrote: >> If they are not being approved, we have a breakdown in the system. >> I'm pretty sure someone is approving them, however. > > Someone is again approving announce posts that shouldn't be approved. > We don't need to broadcast a discussion of which events will be > recorded and how to get a visa to our entire readership. And someone just approved another one of this type... -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 02:57, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Greg Sabino Mullane <greg@turnstep.com> wrote: >>> If they are not being approved, we have a breakdown in the system. >>> I'm pretty sure someone is approving them, however. >> >> Someone is again approving announce posts that shouldn't be approved. >> We don't need to broadcast a discussion of which events will be >> recorded and how to get a visa to our entire readership. > > And someone just approved another one of this type... I don't want to find out who did this in order to go pointing fingers, but I *would* like to know who/where this comes from in case there is an actual bug in mj2 that means this wasn't actually somebody actively approving it. Marc, is there any way to get a log from mj2 of who performs what moderation/admin operations? -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Someone is again approving announce posts that shouldn't be approved.
>> We don't need to broadcast a discussion of which events will be
>> recorded and how to get a visa to our entire readership.
> And someone just approved another one of this type...
I haven't seen anyone confess to ill-considered approvals. Is it
possible there's a bug that's letting some things slide through
unapproved?
regards, tom lane
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes: >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Someone is again approving announce posts that shouldn't be approved. >>> We don't need to broadcast a discussion of which events will be >>> recorded and how to get a visa to our entire readership. > >> And someone just approved another one of this type... > > I haven't seen anyone confess to ill-considered approvals. Is it > possible there's a bug that's letting some things slide through > unapproved? I think it's more likely that there's a bug that's letting some carelessness slide through unconfessed, but as Magnus said, we really need to log somewhere what actions have been taken by which moderators so that we can respond in a little bit more informed way to problems in this area. -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
Excerpts from Robert Haas's message of lun ene 17 17:31:42 -0300 2011: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > > Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes: > >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Someone is again approving announce posts that shouldn't be approved. > >>> We don't need to broadcast a discussion of which events will be > >>> recorded and how to get a visa to our entire readership. > > > >> And someone just approved another one of this type... > > > > I haven't seen anyone confess to ill-considered approvals. Is it > > possible there's a bug that's letting some things slide through > > unapproved? > > I think it's more likely that there's a bug that's letting some > carelessness slide through unconfessed, but as Magnus said, we really > need to log somewhere what actions have been taken by which moderators > so that we can respond in a little bit more informed way to problems > in this area. Since the posts are CCed to more than one list, maybe it's being approved on (say) pgsql-general and this makes the system approve the pgsql-announce one as well. The other theory is that you guys are all confused and you're seeing the copy in pgsql-general thinking that it's broadcast to -announce when it's not. My web access ATM is totally broken so I cannot figure whether this is true. -- Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc. PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 21:47, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> wrote: > Excerpts from Robert Haas's message of lun ene 17 17:31:42 -0300 2011: >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: >> > Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes: >> >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Someone is again approving announce posts that shouldn't be approved. >> >>> We don't need to broadcast a discussion of which events will be >> >>> recorded and how to get a visa to our entire readership. >> > >> >> And someone just approved another one of this type... >> > >> > I haven't seen anyone confess to ill-considered approvals. Is it >> > possible there's a bug that's letting some things slide through >> > unapproved? >> >> I think it's more likely that there's a bug that's letting some >> carelessness slide through unconfessed, but as Magnus said, we really >> need to log somewhere what actions have been taken by which moderators >> so that we can respond in a little bit more informed way to problems >> in this area. > > Since the posts are CCed to more than one list, maybe it's being > approved on (say) pgsql-general and this makes the system approve the > pgsql-announce one as well. > > The other theory is that you guys are all confused and you're seeing the > copy in pgsql-general thinking that it's broadcast to -announce when > it's not. My web access ATM is totally broken so I cannot figure > whether this is true. Several went through on -announce, according to http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-announce/2011-01/index.php. So it's not that simple. -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 21:47, Alvaro Herrera > <alvherre@commandprompt.com> wrote: >> The other theory is that you guys are all confused and you're seeing the >> copy in pgsql-general thinking that it's broadcast to -announce when >> it's not. �My web access ATM is totally broken so I cannot figure >> whether this is true. > Several went through on -announce, according to > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-announce/2011-01/index.php. So > it's not that simple. Most of the recent cases appear to be cross-posted to pgsql-general and pgsql-es-ayuda, so something involving an approval for one of those other lists might well be the explanation. regards, tom lane
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 07:49:08AM +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 02:57, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Greg Sabino Mullane <greg@turnstep.com> wrote: > >>> If they are not being approved, we have a breakdown in the system. > >>> I'm pretty sure someone is approving them, however. > >> > >> Someone is again approving announce posts that shouldn't be approved. > >> We don't need to broadcast a discussion of which events will be > >> recorded and how to get a visa to our entire readership. > > > > And someone just approved another one of this type... > > I don't want to find out who did this in order to go pointing fingers, > but I *would* like to know who/where this comes from in case there is > an actual bug in mj2 that means this wasn't actually somebody actively > approving it. > > Marc, is there any way to get a log from mj2 of who performs what > moderation/admin operations? It was me. Sorry. Cheers, David. -- David Fetter <david@fetter.org> http://fetter.org/ Phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Yahoo!: dfetter Skype: davidfetter XMPP: david.fetter@gmail.com iCal: webcal://www.tripit.com/feed/ical/people/david74/tripit.ics Remember to vote! Consider donating to Postgres: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate
Am checking into this ... majordomo does have a 'report' command, but even iwth 'report-full', it doesn't seem to give any information beyond how long a posting was 'stalled' waiting for moderation ... Am checking with the dev list to see if there is another command I should be looking at that gives more info then the report command though ... On Mon, 17 Jan 2011, Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 02:57, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Greg Sabino Mullane <greg@turnstep.com> wrote: >>>> If they are not being approved, we have a breakdown in the system. >>>> I'm pretty sure someone is approving them, however. >>> >>> Someone is again approving announce posts that shouldn't be approved. >>> We don't need to broadcast a discussion of which events will be >>> recorded and how to get a visa to our entire readership. >> >> And someone just approved another one of this type... > > > I don't want to find out who did this in order to go pointing fingers, > but I *would* like to know who/where this comes from in case there is > an actual bug in mj2 that means this wasn't actually somebody actively > approving it. > > Marc, is there any way to get a log from mj2 of who performs what > moderation/admin operations? > > > -- > Magnus Hagander > Me: http://www.hagander.net/ > Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scrappy@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy@hub.org