Thread: Pentabarf instance for pgDays?
All, SFPUG will soon need to organize a pgDay at OSCON. We'd like to have a Pentabarf (www.pentabarf.org) instance somewhere on a PostgreSQL.org server which we and other UGs could use to organize mini-conferences. (the Drupal system set up on pugs.postgresql.org isn't worth fixing according to Selena) Dan Langille knows the bugaboos of setting this up, and can help with advice. We'd want to have the system by April; if that's not going to be possible on www.postgresql.org, then SFPUG should make other plans, so say so. --Josh Berkus
Josh Berkus wrote: > All, > > SFPUG will soon need to organize a pgDay at OSCON. We'd like to have a > Pentabarf (www.pentabarf.org) instance somewhere on a PostgreSQL.org > server which we and other UGs could use to organize mini-conferences. Should I take the silence on this as a "the WWW group isn't interested in hosting conference software, figure out something on your own"? --Josh
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: >> >> All, >> >> SFPUG will soon need to organize a pgDay at OSCON. We'd like to have a >> Pentabarf (www.pentabarf.org) instance somewhere on a PostgreSQL.org server >> which we and other UGs could use to organize mini-conferences. > > Should I take the silence on this as a "the WWW group isn't interested in > hosting conference software, figure out something on your own"? This part of the WWW group doesn't have the spare cycles at the moment, but he does know that another part of the group lost a not-insignificant amount of hair trying (and failing) to get Pentabarf working in the past. I think the conclusion was that it was a fairly hideous and unsupportable piece of software. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
Josh Berkus wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: >> All, >> >> SFPUG will soon need to organize a pgDay at OSCON. We'd like to have >> a Pentabarf (www.pentabarf.org) instance somewhere on a PostgreSQL.org >> server which we and other UGs could use to organize mini-conferences. > > Should I take the silence on this as a "the WWW group isn't interested > in hosting conference software, figure out something on your own"? Meh, I thought I responded to that one. But since I can't find my own response in sent items, I think I must've forgotten. Anyway, here's what I was *planning* to say: In general, that would probably be a good idea. I tried doing that for the pgday.eu conference last year, and failed miserably at getting it running *at all*. Another requirement would be to make it integrate with community logins. IIRC I found some docs on how to do it, but since I couldn't even get it running *at all*, I didn't get that far. So. If somebody can get it installed and make it integrate with community logins, I'm for doing this on a community server. However, I myself have tried and failed to get it running, so it will have to be somebody with more knowledge. I'll be happy to help with what I can. //Magnus
Magnus, > So. If somebody can get it installed and make it integrate with > community logins, I'm for doing this on a community server. However, I > myself have tried and failed to get it running, so it will have to be > somebody with more knowledge. I'll be happy to help with what I can. I could get it running, but integration with community logins would be beyond me; like other single-developer projects, PB code is largely unreadable (and is Rails to boot). I can ask Stefan (the PB developer) if he's willing to help. If he's *not* willing/able to help, does anyone know another package we can use? The Drupal stuff Selena cooked up doesn't integrate with CLs either, and is about 50 hours of development from being usable. --Josh
On Mar 15, 2009, at 12:16 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: > If he's *not* willing/able to help, does anyone know another package > we can use? The Drupal stuff Selena cooked up doesn't integrate > with CLs either, and is about 50 hours of development from being > usable. What's Dan using for pgcon.org? Best, David
On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 12:53 -0700, David E. Wheeler wrote: > On Mar 15, 2009, at 12:16 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: > > > If he's *not* willing/able to help, does anyone know another package > > we can use? The Drupal stuff Selena cooked up doesn't integrate > > with CLs either, and is about 50 hours of development from being > > usable. > > What's Dan using for pgcon.org? > Pentabarf I believe. Joshua D. Drake > Best, > > David > -- PostgreSQL - XMPP: jdrake@jabber.postgresql.org Consulting, Development, Support, Training 503-667-4564 - http://www.commandprompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company, serving since 1997
On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 12:16 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: > Magnus, > > > So. If somebody can get it installed and make it integrate with > > community logins, I'm for doing this on a community server. However, I > > myself have tried and failed to get it running, so it will have to be > > somebody with more knowledge. I'll be happy to help with what I can. > > I could get it running, but integration with community logins would be > beyond me; like other single-developer projects, PB code is largely > unreadable (and is Rails to boot). I can ask Stefan (the PB developer) > if he's willing to help. > > If he's *not* willing/able to help, does anyone know another package we > can use? The Drupal stuff Selena cooked up doesn't integrate with CLs > either, and is about 50 hours of development from being usable. I would note that an easy way to handle this is to do it all through Google Calendar. There is a module for Drupal that allows you to integrate with Google Calendar as well. Joshua D. Drake > > --Josh > -- PostgreSQL - XMPP: jdrake@jabber.postgresql.org Consulting, Development, Support, Training 503-667-4564 - http://www.commandprompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company, serving since 1997
Josh, > I would note that an easy way to handle this is to do it all through > Google Calendar. There is a module for Drupal that allows you to > integrate with Google Calendar as well. Is Google Calendar prepared to handle multiple talk submissions and voting on them? --Josh
On 15 mar 2009, at 20.16, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > Magnus, > >> So. If somebody can get it installed and make it integrate with >> community logins, I'm for doing this on a community server. >> However, I >> myself have tried and failed to get it running, so it will have to be >> somebody with more knowledge. I'll be happy to help with what I can. > > I could get it running, but integration with community logins would > be beyond me; like other single-developer projects, PB code is > largely unreadable (and is Rails to boot). I can ask Stefan (the PB > developer) if he's willing to help. I can be wrong since this was some time ago, but I think I saw some type of docs - or maybe just a 3rd party blog post - about how to do it. But it could be some other package. Either way it's important it is/can be done in a maintainable way. So we can keep up with security fixed etc. > If he's *not* willing/able to help, does anyone know another package > we can use? The Drupal stuff Selena cooked up doesn't integrate > with CLs either, and is about 50 hours of development from being > usable. > There is a login integration plugin for drupal. I wrote one for back before we gave up on drupal for the eu site. It may be version dependent but not much I think... Can't comment about the rest of the package she worked on since I haven't seen it :) /Magnus
How is the auth setup currently? I can ask some RoR people I know. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote: > On 15 mar 2009, at 20.16, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > >> Magnus, >> >>> So. If somebody can get it installed and make it integrate with >>> community logins, I'm for doing this on a community server. However, I >>> myself have tried and failed to get it running, so it will have to be >>> somebody with more knowledge. I'll be happy to help with what I can. >> >> I could get it running, but integration with community logins would be >> beyond me; like other single-developer projects, PB code is largely >> unreadable (and is Rails to boot). I can ask Stefan (the PB developer) if >> he's willing to help. > > I can be wrong since this was some time ago, but I think I saw some type of > docs - or maybe just a 3rd party blog post - about how to do it. But it > could be some other package. > > Either way it's important it is/can be done in a maintainable way. So we can > keep up with security fixed etc. > > >> If he's *not* willing/able to help, does anyone know another package we >> can use? The Drupal stuff Selena cooked up doesn't integrate with CLs >> either, and is about 50 hours of development from being usable. >> > There is a login integration plugin for drupal. I wrote one for back before > we gave up on drupal for the eu site. It may be version dependent but not > much I think... > > Can't comment about the rest of the package she worked on since I haven't > seen it :) > > /Magnus > > > -- > Sent via pgsql-www mailing list (pgsql-www@postgresql.org) > To make changes to your subscription: > http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-www >
On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 14:38 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: > Josh, > > > I would note that an easy way to handle this is to do it all through > > Google Calendar. There is a module for Drupal that allows you to > > integrate with Google Calendar as well. > > Is Google Calendar prepared to handle multiple talk submissions and > voting on them? I think you know the answer to that. You didn't specify that voting was one of your requirements (or I didn't see it). Anyway, I am pretty sure Drupal is the closest you are going to get to what you want. Joshua D. Drake > > --Josh > -- PostgreSQL - XMPP: jdrake@jabber.postgresql.org Consulting, Development, Support, Training 503-667-4564 - http://www.commandprompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company, serving since 1997
On Sunday 15 March 2009 21:16:33 Josh Berkus wrote: > I could get it running, but integration with community logins would be > beyond me; like other single-developer projects, PB code is largely > unreadable (and is Rails to boot). I can ask Stefan (the PB developer) > if he's willing to help. The alternative is to ask for help from other *users* of Pentabarf. For example, the Debconf people. > If he's *not* willing/able to help, does anyone know another package we > can use? The Drupal stuff Selena cooked up doesn't integrate with CLs > either, and is about 50 hours of development from being usable. I think you will find that Pentabarf plus some work of your own is the best solution out there, versus something else plus a lot more work, with uncertain outcome.
>> If he's *not* willing/able to help, does anyone know another >> package we >> can use? The Drupal stuff Selena cooked up doesn't integrate with >> CLs >> either, and is about 50 hours of development from being usable. > > I think you will find that Pentabarf plus some work of your own is > the best > solution out there, versus something else plus a lot more work, with > uncertain > outcome. Agreed. Hopefully there is at least some isolation of where you need to modify things. If not, many such systems can be tricked by using rules in the database. But that's really a last resort kind if thing. /Magnus