Thread: archives.pg.org font changes
Hi, I've been trying to enable the archives pages to pass the HTML validation as requested by Magnus and Stefan. In doing so I've made quite a few changes to the HTML code and programs, and some intermediate results have been, to put it mildly, less than ideal :-) They should be a bit better now. Please have a look around and let me know your opinions. Keep in mind that I'm looking for comments on font sizes, font faces, etc. One particular very visible change is that the mail bodies are all in monotype face. -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> wrote: > Hi, > > I've been trying to enable the archives pages to pass the HTML > validation as requested by Magnus and Stefan. In doing so I've made > quite a few changes to the HTML code and programs, and some intermediate > results have been, to put it mildly, less than ideal :-) > > They should be a bit better now. Please have a look around and let me > know your opinions. Keep in mind that I'm looking for comments on font > sizes, font faces, etc. One particular very visible change is that the > mail bodies are all in monotype face. The mail bodies are more or less unreadable in Firefox on my Mac - I need to increase the font size setting in the browser a notch for it to become readable, and 2 for it to actually look nice (by which time of course, everything else is huge). The link text used in the indexes to select messages is in bold which makes it look a little odd. Other than those two issues, it looks like a much needed improvement - thanks! -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK Ltd: http://www.enterprisedb.com PostgreSQL UK 2008 Conference: http://www.postgresql.org.uk
"Dave Page" <dpage@pgadmin.org> writes:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> wrote:
>> They should be a bit better now. Please have a look around and let me
>> know your opinions. Keep in mind that I'm looking for comments on font
>> sizes, font faces, etc. One particular very visible change is that the
>> mail bodies are all in monotype face.
> The mail bodies are more or less unreadable in Firefox on my Mac - I
> need to increase the font size setting in the browser a notch for it
> to become readable, and 2 for it to actually look nice (by which time
> of course, everything else is huge).
Nearly unreadable in Safari too --- the body text is several sizes
smaller than all the decoration around it (eg the lefthand menu).
regards, tom lane
Tom Lane wrote: > Nearly unreadable in Safari too --- the body text is several sizes > smaller than all the decoration around it (eg the lefthand menu). Okay, please have a look at http://developer.postgresql.org/~alvherre/msg00001.html and let me know if it's big enough. -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support
On 10/03/2008 18:42, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Okay, please have a look at > http://developer.postgresql.org/~alvherre/msg00001.html > and let me know if it's big enough. Firefox 2.0.0.12 on WinXP: looks good generally, with the only exceptions that "Search for" and "Advanced search" in the search box are tiny and virtually unreadable. Internet Explorer 7 on WinXP: Most text is marginally bigger, but looks fine. "Search for" and "Advanced search" are now fine also; but the monospaced text in the message body is a bit too big, with the result that lines are wrapping. I can email screen shots if that'd be any help. Ray. --------------------------------------------------------------- Raymond O'Donnell, Director of Music, Galway Cathedral, Ireland rod@iol.ie ---------------------------------------------------------------
btw, can we have css for printing ? It should be not very difficult, see how I did this http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/wiki/FTS_Notes Try 'Print preview' in browser (firefox) Oleg On Mon, 10 Mar 2008, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Tom Lane wrote: > >> Nearly unreadable in Safari too --- the body text is several sizes >> smaller than all the decoration around it (eg the lefthand menu). > > Okay, please have a look at > http://developer.postgresql.org/~alvherre/msg00001.html > and let me know if it's big enough. > > Regards, Oleg _____________________________________________________________ Oleg Bartunov, Research Scientist, Head of AstroNet (www.astronet.ru), Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University, Russia Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/ phone: +007(495)939-16-83, +007(495)939-23-83
Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> Nearly unreadable in Safari too --- the body text is several sizes >> smaller than all the decoration around it (eg the lefthand menu). > Okay, please have a look at > http://developer.postgresql.org/~alvherre/msg00001.html > and let me know if it's big enough. This looks good to me. regards, tom lane
btw, http://browsershots.org is a nice tool for such kind of tasks Oleg On Mon, 10 Mar 2008, Tom Lane wrote: > Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> writes: >> Tom Lane wrote: >>> Nearly unreadable in Safari too --- the body text is several sizes >>> smaller than all the decoration around it (eg the lefthand menu). > >> Okay, please have a look at >> http://developer.postgresql.org/~alvherre/msg00001.html >> and let me know if it's big enough. > > This looks good to me. > > regards, tom lane > > Regards, Oleg _____________________________________________________________ Oleg Bartunov, Research Scientist, Head of AstroNet (www.astronet.ru), Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University, Russia Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/ phone: +007(495)939-16-83, +007(495)939-23-83
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:27:12 -0400 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> writes: > > Tom Lane wrote: > >> Nearly unreadable in Safari too --- the body text is several sizes > >> smaller than all the decoration around it (eg the lefthand menu). > > > Okay, please have a look at > > http://developer.postgresql.org/~alvherre/msg00001.html > > and let me know if it's big enough. > > This looks good to me. +1, looks good even on my high resolution 1600+ Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL political pundit | Mocker of Dolphins -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH1Yw8ATb/zqfZUUQRAszjAJ9OR4wbWXV9cGweuRmfU1kp4kpMvgCgoSG1 U+w92zSvGv5BHM4sALXgQlY= =/NX3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> writes: > > Tom Lane wrote: > >> Nearly unreadable in Safari too --- the body text is several sizes > >> smaller than all the decoration around it (eg the lefthand menu). > > > Okay, please have a look at > > http://developer.postgresql.org/~alvherre/msg00001.html > > and let me know if it's big enough. > > This looks good to me. And me. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK Ltd: http://www.enterprisedb.com PostgreSQL UK 2008 Conference: http://www.postgresql.org.uk
At 3:47 -0400 on Mon, 10 Mar 2008, Dave Page wrote: >On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: >>Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> writes: >>> Tom Lane wrote: >>>> Nearly unreadable in Safari too --- the body text is several >>>> sizes smaller than all the decoration around it (eg the >>>> lefthand menu). >> >>> Okay, please have a look at >>> http://developer.postgresql.org/~alvherre/msg00001.html >>> and let me know if it's big enough. >> >> This looks good to me. > > And me. Thank you! Thank you! Font size has long been a pet peeve of mine about the postgresql.org website. While you're at it, wanna bump the font size for the rest of postgresql.org too? I can read it, but I generally always make use of font enlargement. (20/20 vision. :-P ) On WinXP (Firefox & IE6.0), Ubuntu (Firefox), Kubuntu (Konquerer) all look . . . too small to my eye. Kevin
Kevin Hunter wrote: > Thank you! Thank you! Font size has long been a pet peeve of mine > about the postgresql.org website. > > While you're at it, wanna bump the font size for the rest of > postgresql.org too? I can read it, but I generally always make use of > font enlargement. (20/20 vision. :-P ) On WinXP (Firefox & IE6.0), > Ubuntu (Firefox), Kubuntu (Konquerer) all look . . . too small to my > eye. Yeah, personally I find the current main site to have too small a font across the board. This is not something I can change though; I'm only in charge of the archives :-) -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc.
Dave Page wrote: > The link text used in the indexes to select messages is in bold which > makes it look a little odd. OK I changed that as well -- please have a look. I also removed the bold markers from the message headings: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-advocacy/2008-03/msg00003.php -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc.
Oleg Bartunov wrote: > btw, > > http://browsershots.org is a nice tool for such kind of tasks Hmm, that's a handy tip, thanks. Pity that it expires the pages so early though :-) -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 03:42:03PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Okay, please have a look at > http://developer.postgresql.org/~alvherre/msg00001.html > and let me know if it's big enough. Ok for me. Mac OS 10.5 with Firefox. A
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> wrote: > Dave Page wrote: > > > The link text used in the indexes to select messages is in bold which > > makes it look a little odd. > > OK I changed that as well -- please have a look. I also removed the > bold markers from the message headings: > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-advocacy/2008-03/msg00003.php Yup - that looks good. We should probably do the same for the messge links on the messages themselves. Not so sure about the index links. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK Ltd: http://www.enterprisedb.com PostgreSQL UK 2008 Conference: http://www.postgresql.org.uk
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:23 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Alvaro Herrera > <alvherre@commandprompt.com> wrote: > > Dave Page wrote: > > > > > The link text used in the indexes to select messages is in bold which > > > makes it look a little odd. > > > > OK I changed that as well -- please have a look. I also removed the > > bold markers from the message headings: > > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-advocacy/2008-03/msg00003.php > > Yup - that looks good. We should probably do the same for the messge > links on the messages themselves. Not so sure about the index links. Oh, just noticed the text in the search box at the top is microscopic. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK Ltd: http://www.enterprisedb.com PostgreSQL UK 2008 Conference: http://www.postgresql.org.uk