Thread: Re: [HACKERS] Feature freeze progress report
Josh Berkus wrote: > Bruce, > >> Get rid of gborg and let's talk. > > Touche'. > > Actually, AFAICT, the only active thing left on GBorg is WWW. If we move > that, we can shut it down. Any objections? This should be a different thread *but* to my knowledge there is more than WWW active on Gborg. Or at least there is some data that people still wished moved. Gborg needs to be shutdown in a scheduled manner. I proposed a schedule last year but it was largely overlooked: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2006-08/msg01167.php My rather bold attempt to reach all people associated with Gborg was not met with positive responses either (granted due to a mistake on my end). http://people.planetpostgresql.org/joshua/index.php?/archives/15-Blacklisting-PostgreSQL.Org,-Spam-and-hordes-of-geeks-Oh-My!.html > >> Why am I having to spend hours in Syndey saying the same thing? Why >> don't you guys go ahead and change things, and when they fail, I will >> still be around. > > You're acting as a majority of one, here, Bruce. The reason why any solution > anyone else tries *will* fail is because you will refuse to participate in > it. That's why people are trying to persuade you instead of just going ahead > and doing it; you have the power to effectively sandbag anything anyone else > does, so that's why nobody wants to put effort into it if you're opposed. That pretty much sums it up. Bruce you can either come to the party with a smile or a grin. It is your party. If you come with a smile everyone will be a lot happier. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Why not just send a notice out stated that Gborg will be shutdown as of June 1st ... give a finite deadline to move things over to pgfoundry ... just because we 'shut down' the site on June 1st, it doesn't mean we are going to wipe it all out, we can just put a Redirect on the web server on gborg over to pgfoundry so that ppl can't go *to* gborg's web site ... we can also make the CVS 'read-only', so that developers can't update the CVS there, but ppl can still download the code ... - --On Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:47:48 -0700 "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com> wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: >> Bruce, >> >>> Get rid of gborg and let's talk. >> >> Touche'. >> >> Actually, AFAICT, the only active thing left on GBorg is WWW. If we move >> that, we can shut it down. Any objections? > > This should be a different thread *but* to my knowledge there is more than > WWW active on Gborg. Or at least there is some data that people still wished > moved. > > Gborg needs to be shutdown in a scheduled manner. I proposed a schedule last > year but it was largely overlooked: > > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2006-08/msg01167.php > > My rather bold attempt to reach all people associated with Gborg was not met > with positive responses either (granted due to a mistake on my end). > > http://people.planetpostgresql.org/joshua/index.php?/archives/15-Blacklisting > -PostgreSQL.Org,-Spam-and-hordes-of-geeks-Oh-My!.html > >> >>> Why am I having to spend hours in Syndey saying the same thing? Why >>> don't you guys go ahead and change things, and when they fail, I will >>> still be around. >> >> You're acting as a majority of one, here, Bruce. The reason why any >> solution anyone else tries *will* fail is because you will refuse to >> participate in it. That's why people are trying to persuade you instead of >> just going ahead and doing it; you have the power to effectively sandbag >> anything anyone else does, so that's why nobody wants to put effort into it >> if you're opposed. > > > That pretty much sums it up. Bruce you can either come to the party with a > smile or a grin. It is your party. If you come with a smile everyone will be > a lot happier. > > > Sincerely, > > Joshua D. Drake > > > > -- > > === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === > Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 > Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 > http://www.commandprompt.com/ > > Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate > PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/ > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to > choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not > match - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGOifh4QvfyHIvDvMRAvKSAJ9l87k9s8wp4nnw5W4xyCQJIgwNOQCeMLXt bOqtGrCOZ8WnbrhAdYKOGKY= =vJmp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
I was just getting ready to suggest such an approach. We could email all the project admins for the reamaining projects with the dead-line. Backup the information and tell people who to contact in order to claim whatever information they want. Once the dead-line is past you can simply shutdown all the gborg services. Those who don't claim their information either have already moved someplace else or don't care about what is on gborg anymore. Additionally if it were desired we could place tarballs of the cvsrepositories and whatever download files where uploaded for each project on some ftp server if anyone was interested in preserving that ifnormation for posterity. It would not be difficult for me to get a list of email addresses and project names of those admins on gborg. Chris Ryan --- "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Why not just send a notice out stated that Gborg will be shutdown as > of June > 1st ... give a finite deadline to move things over to pgfoundry ... > just > because we 'shut down' the site on June 1st, it doesn't mean we are > going to > wipe it all out, we can just put a Redirect on the web server on > gborg over to > pgfoundry so that ppl can't go *to* gborg's web site ... we can also > make the > CVS 'read-only', so that developers can't update the CVS there, but > ppl can > still download the code ... > > - --On Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:47:48 -0700 "Joshua D. Drake" > <jd@commandprompt.com> wrote: > > > Josh Berkus wrote: > >> Bruce, > >> > >>> Get rid of gborg and let's talk. > >> > >> Touche'. > >> > >> Actually, AFAICT, the only active thing left on GBorg is WWW. If > we move > >> that, we can shut it down. Any objections? > > > > This should be a different thread *but* to my knowledge there is > more than > > WWW active on Gborg. Or at least there is some data that people > still wished > > moved. > > > > Gborg needs to be shutdown in a scheduled manner. I proposed a > schedule last > > year but it was largely overlooked: > > > > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2006-08/msg01167.php > > > > My rather bold attempt to reach all people associated with Gborg > was not met > > with positive responses either (granted due to a mistake on my > end). > > > > > http://people.planetpostgresql.org/joshua/index.php?/archives/15-Blacklisting > > -PostgreSQL.Org,-Spam-and-hordes-of-geeks-Oh-My!.html > > > >> > >>> Why am I having to spend hours in Syndey saying the same thing? > Why > >>> don't you guys go ahead and change things, and when they fail, I > will > >>> still be around. > >> > >> You're acting as a majority of one, here, Bruce. The reason why > any > >> solution anyone else tries *will* fail is because you will refuse > to > >> participate in it. That's why people are trying to persuade you > instead of > >> just going ahead and doing it; you have the power to effectively > sandbag > >> anything anyone else does, so that's why nobody wants to put > effort into it > >> if you're opposed. > > > > > > That pretty much sums it up. Bruce you can either come to the party > with a > > smile or a grin. It is your party. If you come with a smile > everyone will be > > a lot happier. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Joshua D. Drake > > > > > > > > -- > > > > === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === > > Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 > > Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 > > http://www.commandprompt.com/ > > > > Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: > http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate > > PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/ > > > > > > ---------------------------(end of > broadcast)--------------------------- > > TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire > to > > choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do > not > > match > > > > - ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services > (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . > scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQFGOifh4QvfyHIvDvMRAvKSAJ9l87k9s8wp4nnw5W4xyCQJIgwNOQCeMLXt > bOqtGrCOZ8WnbrhAdYKOGKY= > =vJmp > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ---------------------------(end of > broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to > choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not > match > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
I think this is the apprach joshua tried the first time and it backfired... I
think we need a more personal approach. I'm willing to put time into this if
people want a new point man (I don't think Joshua will mind, lmk if you do)
but it will have to wait untill after pgcon.
On Thursday 03 May 2007 15:12, Chris Ryan wrote:
> I was just getting ready to suggest such an approach. We could
> email all the project admins for the reamaining projects with the
> dead-line. Backup the information and tell people who to contact in
> order to claim whatever information they want. Once the dead-line is
> past you can simply shutdown all the gborg services. Those who don't
> claim their information either have already moved someplace else or
> don't care about what is on gborg anymore.
>
> Additionally if it were desired we could place tarballs of the
> cvsrepositories and whatever download files where uploaded for each
> project on some ftp server if anyone was interested in preserving that
> ifnormation for posterity.
>
> It would not be difficult for me to get a list of email addresses
> and project names of those admins on gborg.
>
> Chris Ryan
>
> --- "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org> wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> >
> > Why not just send a notice out stated that Gborg will be shutdown as
> > of June
> > 1st ... give a finite deadline to move things over to pgfoundry ...
> > just
> > because we 'shut down' the site on June 1st, it doesn't mean we are
> > going to
> > wipe it all out, we can just put a Redirect on the web server on
> > gborg over to
> > pgfoundry so that ppl can't go *to* gborg's web site ... we can also
> > make the
> > CVS 'read-only', so that developers can't update the CVS there, but
> > ppl can
> > still download the code ...
> >
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