Thread: No checksums please
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Could we please turn off all the checksum stuff for the mailing lists? It's causing every legitimate message to produce two or more entries in the moderation queue: if I see one that is marked as a checksum, I am simply discarding it. This may be causing legitimate messages to get discarded, but other than becoming a human checksummer and verifying the content of every message in the queue versus what's been approved, I don't see a way around it other than disabling the checksum altogether, or having it bounce to the sender. Thanks, - -- Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200702011351 http://biglumber.com/x/web?pk=2529DF6AB8F79407E94445B4BC9B906714964AC8 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFFwjbNvJuQZxSWSsgRAx5hAJ0aEyhrbqKmI+0zXffBKG6801pFVgCg7a9O uTb8Bt9UurUBl8DB4y+Npfg= =oz/9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
"Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@turnstep.com> writes:
> Could we please turn off all the checksum stuff for the mailing lists?
Are you talking about disabling the detection of duplicate messages?
That seems like a seriously bad idea. I personally see a number of my
own messages regurgitated every so often by various people's broken
Microsloth-hatched excuses for MTAs, and I would not like to see those
dups dumped into the mailing list again (for one thing, it only takes
a small amount more MTA breakage to turn that into a self-feeding flood).
regards, tom lane
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Tom Lane asks about my proposal: >> Could we please turn off all the checksum stuff for the mailing lists? > Are you talking about disabling the detection of duplicate messages? > That seems like a seriously bad idea. Well, perhaps not turn off, but at least bounce back to the sender, not the moderation queue. I believe that is the way it used to be, which makes a lot more sense to me. - -- Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200702011708 http://biglumber.com/x/web?pk=2529DF6AB8F79407E94445B4BC9B906714964AC8 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFFwmUZvJuQZxSWSsgRA8gMAJ0dsExAxt0JC19B/ntzHDADUv7IaACeNYRa f7KJ+kFaORy+t3mEIrMRTx8= =Sbsj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 02:44:44PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@turnstep.com> writes: > > Could we please turn off all the checksum stuff for the mailing lists? > > Are you talking about disabling the detection of duplicate messages? > That seems like a seriously bad idea. I personally see a number of my > own messages regurgitated every so often by various people's broken > Microsloth-hatched excuses for MTAs, and I would not like to see those > dups dumped into the mailing list again (for one thing, it only takes > a small amount more MTA breakage to turn that into a self-feeding flood). I don't know if there is a difference between "duplicate detection" and "partial duplicate detection". AFAIK, only the "partial duplicate detection" has caused problems. But just ignore that ocmment if they are the same thing. //Magnus
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 > I don't know if there is a difference between "duplicate detection" and > "partial duplicate detection". AFAIK, only the "partial duplicate > detection" has caused problems. But just ignore that ocmment if they are > the same thing. Most of the moderated posts in the queue (e.g. -announce) seem to have all three types of checksums: Duplicate Message-ID Duplicate Message Checksum Duplicate Partial Message Checksum It's fairly frustrating - for example, the recent post from Pavel Golub was approved by me this morning, and a few minutes later there were five separate messages in the queue with this message and all three duplicate warnings on each of them. I've left them in there in case others want to take a look. - -- Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200702061142 http://biglumber.com/x/web?pk=2529DF6AB8F79407E94445B4BC9B906714964AC8 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFFyLCkvJuQZxSWSsgRA27/AKCEvJvFTvM7yaaabJHXbqjlx/SPCACfSF0L EY1AwU6fRz435R/B2m7gG48= =qWLn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Tuesday, February 06, 2007 16:49:28 +0000 Greg Sabino Mullane <greg@turnstep.com> wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > >> I don't know if there is a difference between "duplicate detection" and >> "partial duplicate detection". AFAIK, only the "partial duplicate >> detection" has caused problems. But just ignore that ocmment if they are >> the same thing. > > Most of the moderated posts in the queue (e.g. -announce) seem to have > all three types of checksums: > > Duplicate Message-ID > Duplicate Message Checksum > Duplicate Partial Message Checksum > > It's fairly frustrating - for example, the recent post from Pavel Golub > was approved by me this morning, and a few minutes later there were > five separate messages in the queue with this message and all three > duplicate warnings on each of them. I've left them in there in case > others want to take a look. I put a check on Duplicate Message-ID in place, but left the checksum stuff turned off ... that should reduce the duplicates in the queue, but still allow stuff like the posts to slave-to-the-web through ... - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFyk8t4QvfyHIvDvMRAteoAJ0bgyTfW2IJtW4eNwSMBJwOCLf6uwCgq3rz NSlt2n4Cjeu6zpp2UcCQobo= =ULUd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----