Thread: WAIT on release info -- tommorrow!
Folks, I'm posting on the upcoming 8.1.4 release. DO NOT APPROVE until 9am PDT Tuesday. Thanks! -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 00:58, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I'm posting on the upcoming 8.1.4 release. DO NOT APPROVE until 9am PDT
> Tuesday. Thanks!
You double submitted the news item, do you know which one we should approve.
Also have you coordinated updating of the main page with new release
information with anyone?
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Robert Treat
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> > Folks, > > > > I'm posting on the upcoming 8.1.4 release. DO NOT APPROVE > until 9am PDT > > Tuesday. Thanks! > > You double submitted the news item, do you know which one we > should approve. > Also have you coordinated updating of the main page with new > release information with anyone? I will be donig that. There's not a time set AFAIK, btu as long as it's done before I fall asleep tonight I'll do it :-) And it shuold be per what I've heard so far. //Magnus
Robert, > You double submitted the news item, do you know which one we should > approve. Browser must have spazzed ... the two are identical and milleseconds apart. So it doesn't matter which is approved and which rejected. > Also have you coordinated updating of the main page with new > release information with anyone? No. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
All, The news item hasn't been approved. Should I do it? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
> All, > > The news item hasn't been approved. Should I do it? The -announce mail hasn't been posted, I thought we were waiting for that :-) //Magnus
magnus, > The -announce mail hasn't been posted, I thought we were waiting for > that :-) Well, I can't reach Marc. He's not responding to email. And nobody else has moderation rights on -announce for some reason I can't comprehend. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
> > The -announce mail hasn't been posted, I thought we were > waiting for > > that :-) > > Well, I can't reach Marc. He's not responding to email. > And nobody else > has moderation rights on -announce for some reason I can't comprehend. He was up on ICQ just a minute ago, I directed him towards this discussion :-) //mha
-announce message is just now approved, sorry for delay ... and I approved the *last* one that was in the list ... On Tue, 23 May 2006, Magnus Hagander wrote: >> All, >> >> The news item hasn't been approved. Should I do it? > > The -announce mail hasn't been posted, I thought we were waiting for > that :-) > > //Magnus > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
Marc, > -announce message is just now approved, sorry for delay ... and I approved > the *last* one that was in the list ... Oh, good, that's the right one. Thanks. Hmmm, maybe we should look into automating -announce in the future? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> writes:
> Hmmm, maybe we should look into automating -announce in the future?
-announce is the one list that really NEEDS to have a human gatekeeper.
regards, tom lane
> All, > > The news item hasn't been approved. Should I do it? Approved now, along with the version links on the frontpage, and the security information page. //Magnus
Tom, > -announce is the one list that really NEEDS to have a human gatekeeper. By "automate" I meant "like the News on the front page", with a web interface and a collective team (slaves-to-the-www) to moderate it. There would have to be humans involved. Alternately, can Marc *please* designate an alternate moderator? I know that majordomo supports this. Someone like Dave, Magnus and/or Robert? Timing wasn't critical this morning (Newsforge checked with me before posting a story) but for other stuff it may be. And more than once a vendor or outside OSS project has waited for a week to get their stuff on -announce because they didn't know they needed to send a private e-mail to Marc so he would check the moderation list. Also, it would be nice to have a several people with more time (collectively) to weed out bad addresses. Right now, anyone who posts to announce gets an average of 25-40 bounces, which is rather startling for first-time posters. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
On Tue, 23 May 2006, Josh Berkus wrote: > magnus, > >> The -announce mail hasn't been posted, I thought we were waiting for >> that :-) > > Well, I can't reach Marc. He's not responding to email. And you didn't SMS page me because ... ? My cell phone is always on, and *everyone* on this list has my SMS page # ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
On Tue, 23 May 2006, Josh Berkus wrote: > Marc, > >> -announce message is just now approved, sorry for delay ... and I approved >> the *last* one that was in the list ... > > Oh, good, that's the right one. Thanks. > > Hmmm, maybe we should look into automating -announce in the future? Actually, not sure why we don't have your stuff auto-moderated anyway, like we do with David's posting of the Weekly news ... what address should I add to the list of 'doesn't need moderating'? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
On Tue, 23 May 2006, Tom Lane wrote: > Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> writes: >> Hmmm, maybe we should look into automating -announce in the future? > > -announce is the one list that really NEEDS to have a human gatekeeper. Ya, but there are some ppl that it *should* be safe to auto-approve ... I would think that Josh is one of them ... of course, that would mean tha Josh couldn't "pre-send" the announce, for instance, before he goes to bed and have it approved by me when I wake up ... so 'time sensitive stuff' could be a bit more difficult... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
Marc, > Actually, not sure why we don't have your stuff auto-moderated anyway, > like we do with David's posting of the Weekly news ... what address > should I add to the list of 'doesn't need moderating'? josh@postgresql.org would do it. -- --Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
Marc, > Ya, but there are some ppl that it *should* be safe to auto-approve ... > I would think that Josh is one of them ... of course, that would mean > tha Josh couldn't "pre-send" the announce, for instance, before he goes > to bed and have it approved by me when I wake up ... so 'time sensitive > stuff' could be a bit more difficult... Nah, I'll just write a cron job. ;-) -- --Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
k, you are added to the 'exceptions' list for moderated postings ... On Tue, 23 May 2006, Josh Berkus wrote: > Marc, > >> Actually, not sure why we don't have your stuff auto-moderated anyway, >> like we do with David's posting of the Weekly news ... what address >> should I add to the list of 'doesn't need moderating'? > > josh@postgresql.org would do it. > > -- > --Josh > > Josh Berkus > PostgreSQL @ Sun > San Francisco > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
Hi, On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 16:30 -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > k, you are added to the 'exceptions' list for moderated postings ... What if I change my "From:" address to Josh and post a My$QL announcement? Do we have some kind of a "Password:" header before the mail? Regards, -- The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc. 1.503.667.4564 PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support Managed Services, Shared and Dedicated Hosting Co-Authors: plPHP, plPerlNG - http://www.commandprompt.com/
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > What if I change my "From:" address to Josh and post a My$QL > announcement? > > Do we have some kind of a "Password:" header before the mail? I don't think so. For that reason, I'd leave it without exceptions. Marc, maybe you can add me in as a mod to the announce list? I already hit the other lists at least once a day, and I'll do my best to clear out the bounces pointed out earlier. (Plus the handful of manual "stop sending me emails!" messages I get whenever I post something to announce, sometimes up to 2 weeks later). - -- Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200605231638 http://biglumber.com/x/web?pk=2529DF6AB8F79407E94445B4BC9B906714964AC8 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFEc3MLvJuQZxSWSsgRAgxoAKD90FLpSrDwBJ5dBuZWJ/RRApuhpQCfS4o4 2H7TNGgGheitMT4jSFUnvs8= =gQ8R -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 16:41, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
> > What if I change my "From:" address to Josh and post a My$QL
> > announcement?
> >
> > Do we have some kind of a "Password:" header before the mail?
>
> I don't think so. For that reason, I'd leave it without exceptions.
> Marc, maybe you can add me in as a mod to the announce list? I
> already hit the other lists at least once a day, and I'll do my
> best to clear out the bounces pointed out earlier.
>
> (Plus the handful of manual "stop sending me emails!" messages
> I get whenever I post something to announce, sometimes up to
> 2 weeks later).
If you guys want additional moderators, I'll volunteer... I'm already a
moderator on a couple of the smaller lists I believe.
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Robert Treat
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 03:53:53PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Tue, 23 May 2006, Josh Berkus wrote: > > >Marc, > > > >>-announce message is just now approved, sorry for delay ... and I approved > >>the *last* one that was in the list ... > > > >Oh, good, that's the right one. Thanks. > > > >Hmmm, maybe we should look into automating -announce in the future? > > Actually, not sure why we don't have your stuff auto-moderated anyway, > like we do with David's posting of the Weekly news ... what address should > I add to the list of 'doesn't need moderating'? That doesn't address the issue of other posters waiting a long time for approvals. There should be more than one person who can moderate, and if people aren't going to check daily there should be notifications when new stuff arrives. -- Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant jnasby@pervasive.com Pervasive Software http://pervasive.com work: 512-231-6117 vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf cell: 512-569-9461
'k, both you and greg added ... the only rule I've been trying to follow
as far as postings is no repeat postings of a product within a full month
of the last posting for that product ...
On Tue, 23 May 2006, Robert Treat wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 May 2006 16:41, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
>>> What if I change my "From:" address to Josh and post a My$QL
>>> announcement?
>>>
>>> Do we have some kind of a "Password:" header before the mail?
>>
>> I don't think so. For that reason, I'd leave it without exceptions.
>> Marc, maybe you can add me in as a mod to the announce list? I
>> already hit the other lists at least once a day, and I'll do my
>> best to clear out the bounces pointed out earlier.
>>
>> (Plus the handful of manual "stop sending me emails!" messages
>> I get whenever I post something to announce, sometimes up to
>> 2 weeks later).
>
> If you guys want additional moderators, I'll volunteer... I'm already a
> moderator on a couple of the smaller lists I believe.
>
> --
> Robert Treat
> Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
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