Thread: Greylisting enabled ...

Greylisting enabled ...

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
Just so that everyone is aware, greylisting is now enabled on the vServer
where the mailing lists go through ... not that I expect to hear of any,
but if you notice any problems, please let me know ...

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Re: Greylisting enabled ...

From
"Magnus Hagander"
Date:
> Just so that everyone is aware, greylisting is now enabled on
> the vServer where the mailing lists go through ... not that I
> expect to hear of any, but if you notice any problems, please
> let me know ...

Is this something we should write a blurb on the mailinglist info page
on the web about? Considering it'll delay people submission a bit the
first time they post frmo a new IP?

(Or perhaps that delay will just be drowned by the other general delay
of the lists?)

//Magnus

Re: Greylisting enabled ...

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Magnus Hagander wrote:

>> Just so that everyone is aware, greylisting is now enabled on
>> the vServer where the mailing lists go through ... not that I
>> expect to hear of any, but if you notice any problems, please
>> let me know ...
>
> Is this something we should write a blurb on the mailinglist info page
> on the web about? Considering it'll delay people submission a bit the
> first time they post frmo a new IP?
>
> (Or perhaps that delay will just be drowned by the other general delay
> of the lists?)

I've temporarily turned it off anyway ... need to figure out a better way
of doing it ... 'submissions' aren't a big issue, as the delay for
greylisting is minimal ... the problem is that majordomo has feature in it
that auto-unsubscribes ppl from the list if their email bounces over N
times ... so, if we send out an email through pgsql-general to 1000
subscribers, and 100 bounce back (reasonably normal), those 100 are all
"new" to the greylisting system, since the return addresses are all
*individual* (<listname>+<unique identifier>@postgresql.org) ... server
load wasn't being affected, but the mail queue on the MX servers were
being bogged down fast, since they were trying to resend *through* the MXs
...

Need to get all the MXs setup first, *then* the main server, so that the
MXs see it as the 'second attempt' and bounce it straight through better
...

Will let y'all know once I have this setup a *wee* bit better to deal with
majordomo's "ACKs" ...

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Re: Greylisting enabled ...

From
"Joshua D. Drake"
Date:
> (Or perhaps that delay will just be drowned by the other general delay
> of the lists?)

I would say the above will probably be the case.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake


>
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Re: Greylisting enabled ...

From
"Jim C. Nasby"
Date:
On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 10:26:12PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> Just so that everyone is aware, greylisting is now enabled on the vServer
> where the mailing lists go through ... not that I expect to hear of any,
> but if you notice any problems, please let me know ...

Keep in mind that some MTA's are flat-out broken in such a way that
greylisting == no email. At a minimum the owner email aliases should
bypass greylisting (or there needs to be *some* contact email that
doesn't go through greylisting).
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Pervasive Software      http://pervasive.com    work: 512-231-6117
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Re: Greylisting enabled ...

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
I've moved over to using sqlgrey, which, so far, appears to be working
great (this one at least auto-whitelists) ... by deafult, it comes with
whitelists for everything that are "known" broken, which is another nice
feature ...

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Jim C. Nasby wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 10:26:12PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>>
>> Just so that everyone is aware, greylisting is now enabled on the vServer
>> where the mailing lists go through ... not that I expect to hear of any,
>> but if you notice any problems, please let me know ...
>
> Keep in mind that some MTA's are flat-out broken in such a way that
> greylisting == no email. At a minimum the owner email aliases should
> bypass greylisting (or there needs to be *some* contact email that
> doesn't go through greylisting).
> --
> Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant      jnasby@pervasive.com
> Pervasive Software      http://pervasive.com    work: 512-231-6117
> vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf       cell: 512-569-9461
>

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Email: scrappy@hub.org           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 7615664