Thread: Re: Missing emails
I don't see it in the archives ... and there isn't anything in the queue ... do you have a message-id I can search /var/log/maillog with? On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: > An email from me to hackers 18 hours ago never appeared, and I am > hearing on IRC of other missing emails. > > Would someone check the mail queues? My missing email was: > > From pgman Sat Apr 9 17:30:15 2005 > Subject: Three-byte Unicode characters > In-Reply-To: <25403.1113103724@sss.pgh.pa.us> > To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> > Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:18:25 -0400 (EDT) > cc: John Hansen <john@geeknet.com.au>, > Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au>, > pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121 (25)] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Length: 2066 > > I re-emailed it this morning and it appeared immediately. > > -- > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 > + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road > + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> I don't see it in the archives ... and there isn't anything in the queue
> ... do you have a message-id I can search /var/log/maillog with?
>
Sure, I have this in my mail logs:
Apr 10 00:18:30 candle sendmail[26666]: j3A4IPC26666: from=pgman, size=2491, class=0, nrcpts=4,
msgid=<200504100418.j3A4IPC26666
@candle.pha.pa.us>, relay=pgman@localhost
Apr 10 00:18:30 candle sendmail[26668]: j3A4IPC26666: to=tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us, ctladdr=pgman (113/120),
delay=00:00:05,xdelay=00:0
0:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=122491, relay=sss.pgh.pa.us. [66.207.139.130], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (j3A4IRo1025683 Message
acceptedfor
delivery)
Apr 10 00:18:33 candle sendmail[26668]: j3A4IPC26666: to=john@geeknet.com.au, ctladdr=pgman (113/120),
delay=00:00:08,xdelay=00
:00:03, mailer=esmtp, pri=122491, relay=mail.geeknet.com.au. [220.244.63.182], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queued as
EBB363401F36)
Apr 10 00:18:40 candle sendmail[26668]: j3A4IPC26666: to=chriskl@familyhealth.com.au, ctladdr=pgman (113/120),
delay=00:00:15,x
delay=00:00:07, mailer=esmtp, pri=122491, relay=mx1.familyhealth.com.au. [203.31.101.36], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
(j3A4IVsb042952M
essage accepted for delivery)
Apr 10 00:18:42 candle sendmail[26668]: j3A4IPC26666: to=pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, ctladdr=pgman (113/120),
delay=00:00:17,
xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=esmtp, pri=122491, relay=svr1.postgresql.org. [200.46.204.71], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok:
queuedas 49BAC
539F7)
I think the last line is the one you want. Does that help?
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>
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> > An email from me to hackers 18 hours ago never appeared, and I am
> > hearing on IRC of other missing emails.
> >
> > Would someone check the mail queues? My missing email was:
> >
> > From pgman Sat Apr 9 17:30:15 2005
> > Subject: Three-byte Unicode characters
> > In-Reply-To: <25403.1113103724@sss.pgh.pa.us>
> > To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
> > Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:18:25 -0400 (EDT)
> > cc: John Hansen <john@geeknet.com.au>,
> > Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au>,
> > pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
> > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121 (25)]
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> > Content-Length: 2066
> >
> > I re-emailed it this morning and it appeared immediately.
> >
> > --
> > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us
> > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001
> > + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road
> > + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
> >
> > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
> > TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
> >
>
> ----
> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
> Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
>
> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
> TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ?
>
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
>
--
Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us
pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001
+ If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road
+ Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
Yup, definitely received, and passed over to majordomo: svr1# grep 49BAC539F7 /var/log/maillog Apr 10 05:18:38 svr1 postfix/smtpd[57908]: 49BAC539F7: client=candle.pha.pa.us[64.139.89.126] Apr 10 05:18:38 svr1 postfix/cleanup[58023]: 49BAC539F7: message-id=<200504100418.j3A4IPC26666@candle.pha.pa.us> Apr 10 05:18:38 svr1 postfix/qmgr[33885]: 49BAC539F7: from=<pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>, size=2985, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Apr 10 05:18:48 svr1 postfix/smtp[48074]: 49BAC539F7: to=<pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org>, orig_to=<pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>,relay=av.hub.org[200.46.204.144], delay=11, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Ok, id=21745-01,from MTA: 250 Ok: queued as 8FBD1533EF) Apr 10 05:18:48 svr1 postfix/qmgr[33885]: 49BAC539F7: removed but, then its lost ... *scratch head* only post today that I have for you was at 10:54: post pgsql-hackers pgman@candle.pha.pa.us succeed 10:54 Most odd ... even if it was rejected for some reason, I should at least see a 'fail' entry on the majordomo side ... will follow up with the dev's to see if they can see where it might have gone missing :( On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >> I don't see it in the archives ... and there isn't anything in the queue >> ... do you have a message-id I can search /var/log/maillog with? >> > > Sure, I have this in my mail logs: > > Apr 10 00:18:30 candle sendmail[26666]: j3A4IPC26666: from=pgman, size=2491, class=0, nrcpts=4, msgid=<200504100418.j3A4IPC26666 > @candle.pha.pa.us>, relay=pgman@localhost > Apr 10 00:18:30 candle sendmail[26668]: j3A4IPC26666: to=tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us, ctladdr=pgman (113/120), delay=00:00:05,xdelay=00:0 > 0:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=122491, relay=sss.pgh.pa.us. [66.207.139.130], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (j3A4IRo1025683 Messageaccepted for > delivery) > Apr 10 00:18:33 candle sendmail[26668]: j3A4IPC26666: to=john@geeknet.com.au, ctladdr=pgman (113/120), delay=00:00:08,xdelay=00 > :00:03, mailer=esmtp, pri=122491, relay=mail.geeknet.com.au. [220.244.63.182], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queued asEBB363401F36) > Apr 10 00:18:40 candle sendmail[26668]: j3A4IPC26666: to=chriskl@familyhealth.com.au, ctladdr=pgman (113/120), delay=00:00:15,x > delay=00:00:07, mailer=esmtp, pri=122491, relay=mx1.familyhealth.com.au. [203.31.101.36], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (j3A4IVsb042952M > essage accepted for delivery) > Apr 10 00:18:42 candle sendmail[26668]: j3A4IPC26666: to=pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, ctladdr=pgman (113/120), delay=00:00:17, > xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=esmtp, pri=122491, relay=svr1.postgresql.org. [200.46.204.71], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queuedas 49BAC > 539F7) > > I think the last line is the one you want. Does that help? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> >> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> >>> An email from me to hackers 18 hours ago never appeared, and I am >>> hearing on IRC of other missing emails. >>> >>> Would someone check the mail queues? My missing email was: >>> >>> From pgman Sat Apr 9 17:30:15 2005 >>> Subject: Three-byte Unicode characters >>> In-Reply-To: <25403.1113103724@sss.pgh.pa.us> >>> To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> >>> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:18:25 -0400 (EDT) >>> cc: John Hansen <john@geeknet.com.au>, >>> Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au>, >>> pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org >>> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121 (25)] >>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>> Content-Length: 2066 >>> >>> I re-emailed it this morning and it appeared immediately. >>> >>> -- >>> Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us >>> pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 >>> + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road >>> + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 >>> >>> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >>> TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings >>> >> >> ---- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) >> Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 >> >> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >> TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? >> >> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq >> > > -- > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 > + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road > + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
D'oh, dont' thin I went back far enough on my report command, since it looks like it did fail: post pgsql-hackers pgman@candle.pha.pa.us succeed 19:22 post pgsql-hackers pgman@candle.pha.pa.us succeed 00:34 post pgsql-hackers pgman@candle.pha.pa.us fail 01:18 post pgsql-hackers pgman@candle.pha.pa.us succeed 10:54 now to figure out why it failed ... :( On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >> I don't see it in the archives ... and there isn't anything in the queue >> ... do you have a message-id I can search /var/log/maillog with? >> > > Sure, I have this in my mail logs: > > Apr 10 00:18:30 candle sendmail[26666]: j3A4IPC26666: from=pgman, size=2491, class=0, nrcpts=4, msgid=<200504100418.j3A4IPC26666 > @candle.pha.pa.us>, relay=pgman@localhost > Apr 10 00:18:30 candle sendmail[26668]: j3A4IPC26666: to=tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us, ctladdr=pgman (113/120), delay=00:00:05,xdelay=00:0 > 0:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=122491, relay=sss.pgh.pa.us. [66.207.139.130], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (j3A4IRo1025683 Messageaccepted for > delivery) > Apr 10 00:18:33 candle sendmail[26668]: j3A4IPC26666: to=john@geeknet.com.au, ctladdr=pgman (113/120), delay=00:00:08,xdelay=00 > :00:03, mailer=esmtp, pri=122491, relay=mail.geeknet.com.au. [220.244.63.182], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queued asEBB363401F36) > Apr 10 00:18:40 candle sendmail[26668]: j3A4IPC26666: to=chriskl@familyhealth.com.au, ctladdr=pgman (113/120), delay=00:00:15,x > delay=00:00:07, mailer=esmtp, pri=122491, relay=mx1.familyhealth.com.au. [203.31.101.36], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (j3A4IVsb042952M > essage accepted for delivery) > Apr 10 00:18:42 candle sendmail[26668]: j3A4IPC26666: to=pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, ctladdr=pgman (113/120), delay=00:00:17, > xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=esmtp, pri=122491, relay=svr1.postgresql.org. [200.46.204.71], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queuedas 49BAC > 539F7) > > I think the last line is the one you want. Does that help? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> >> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> >>> An email from me to hackers 18 hours ago never appeared, and I am >>> hearing on IRC of other missing emails. >>> >>> Would someone check the mail queues? My missing email was: >>> >>> From pgman Sat Apr 9 17:30:15 2005 >>> Subject: Three-byte Unicode characters >>> In-Reply-To: <25403.1113103724@sss.pgh.pa.us> >>> To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> >>> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:18:25 -0400 (EDT) >>> cc: John Hansen <john@geeknet.com.au>, >>> Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au>, >>> pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org >>> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121 (25)] >>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>> Content-Length: 2066 >>> >>> I re-emailed it this morning and it appeared immediately. >>> >>> -- >>> Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us >>> pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 >>> + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road >>> + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 >>> >>> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >>> TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings >>> >> >> ---- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) >> Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 >> >> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >> TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? >> >> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq >> > > -- > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 > + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road > + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
I regularly observer many days delay, for example, I just received posting
from April 4 !
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Oleg
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> I don't see it in the archives ... and there isn't anything in the queue ...
> do you have a message-id I can search /var/log/maillog with?
>
>
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
>> An email from me to hackers 18 hours ago never appeared, and I am
>> hearing on IRC of other missing emails.
>>
>> Would someone check the mail queues? My missing email was:
>>
>> From pgman Sat Apr 9 17:30:15 2005
>> Subject: Three-byte Unicode characters
>> In-Reply-To: <25403.1113103724@sss.pgh.pa.us>
>> To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
>> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:18:25 -0400 (EDT)
>> cc: John Hansen <john@geeknet.com.au>,
>> Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au>,
>> pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
>> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121 (25)]
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>> Content-Length: 2066
>>
>> I re-emailed it this morning and it appeared immediately.
>>
>> --
>> Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us
>> pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001
>> + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road
>> + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
>>
>> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
>> TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
>>
>
> ----
> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
> Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
>
> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
> TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ?
>
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
>
Regards,
Oleg
_____________________________________________________________
Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet,
Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)
Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83
Hi, On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, Oleg Bartunov wrote: > I regularly observer many days delay, for example, I just received posting > from April 4 ! I think it's Marc who's trying to empty the queue on every Sunday, right Marc? -- Devrim GUNDUZ devrim~gunduz.org, devrim~PostgreSQL.org, devrim.gunduz~linux.org.tr http://www.tdmsoft.com http://www.gunduz.org
Insufficient information here, but I suspect this is someone not subscribed to the list, that sits in the moderator queue until its approved for posting, which I just went through all of for pgsql-hackers today ... If you could include the From on this (unless I'm just blind?), i can confirm whether the person is on the lists or not ... Bruce's I take seriously, since I know he's on the list, and I check the moderator queue to make sure it hadn't gotten 'stuck' somehow ... On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, Oleg Bartunov wrote: > I regularly observer many days delay, for example, I just received posting > from April 4 ! > > Received: from hosting.commandprompt.com (128.commandprompt.com > [207.173.200.128]) > by ra.sai.msu.su (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3AJF7Hu028411; > Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:15:08 +0400 (MSD) > Received: from postgresql.org (svr1.postgresql.org [200.46.204.71]) > by hosting.commandprompt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id > j3AJ69me025117; > Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:06:58 -0700 > X-Original-To: pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org > Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) > by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C23752A4B > for <pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org>; Tue, > 5 Apr 2005 08:51:13 +0100 (BST) > Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) > by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) > with ESMTP id 46543-01 > for <pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org>; > Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:51:02 +0000 (GMT) > > > Oleg > > On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> >> I don't see it in the archives ... and there isn't anything in the queue >> ... do you have a message-id I can search /var/log/maillog with? >> >> >> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> >>> An email from me to hackers 18 hours ago never appeared, and I am >>> hearing on IRC of other missing emails. >>> >>> Would someone check the mail queues? My missing email was: >>> >>> From pgman Sat Apr 9 17:30:15 2005 >>> Subject: Three-byte Unicode characters >>> In-Reply-To: <25403.1113103724@sss.pgh.pa.us> >>> To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> >>> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:18:25 -0400 (EDT) >>> cc: John Hansen <john@geeknet.com.au>, >>> Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au>, >>> pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org >>> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121 (25)] >>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>> Content-Length: 2066 >>> >>> I re-emailed it this morning and it appeared immediately. >>> >>> -- >>> Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us >>> pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 >>> + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road >>> + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania >>> 19073 >>> >>> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >>> TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings >>> >> >> ---- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) >> Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 >> >> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >> TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? >> >> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq >> > > Regards, > Oleg > _____________________________________________________________ > Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet, > Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia) > Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/ > phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83 > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Insufficient information here, but I suspect this is someone not > subscribed to the list, that sits in the moderator queue until its > approved for posting, which I just went through all of for pgsql-hackers > today ... > > If you could include the From on this (unless I'm just blind?), i can > confirm whether the person is on the lists or not ... > > Bruce's I take seriously, since I know he's on the list, and I check the > moderator queue to make sure it hadn't gotten 'stuck' somehow ... The last time we had such a problem I was triggering a majordomo bug because they hadn't expected someone to post so much in one month. :-) -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, Oleg Bartunov wrote: > >> I regularly observer many days delay, for example, I just received posting >> from April 4 ! > > I think it's Marc who's trying to empty the queue on every Sunday, right > Marc? I try to do it more often, but *at least* on the weekend I make sure I get all the lists cleared out ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>> I regularly observer many days delay, for example, I just received posting >>> from April 4 ! >> >> I think it's Marc who's trying to empty the queue on every Sunday, right >> Marc? > > I try to do it more often, but *at least* on the weekend I make sure I get > all the lists cleared out ... Would it help if the work was more shared? I daily clean out a number of lists, and could certainly add in some of the pg ones. If we had a few more people, particularly in overlapping time zones (e.g. US, Russia, Australia), delays would probably drop to a few hours... - -- Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200504101703 http://biglumber.com/x/web?pk=2529DF6AB8F79407E94445B4BC9B906714964AC8 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFCWZU2vJuQZxSWSsgRAjtyAKDarsIi97ubh4/g5LVyGm27KQWyVQCdGACK RZ+csrHmssfN3bnI5VjcWys= =4t7Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
I've offered/asked in the past ... and would be more then happy to have someone 'take responsibility' for moderating some of the lists if someone has time ... Its easy enough to add extra owners to a list to allow for others to approve/reject ... list volume wise, I'd say -general, -hackers, -bugs and -interfaces ... -jdbc already has someone from the JDBC group monitoring ... Greg, want me ot add you as moderator for the 4 above? Or start with just one (-bugs?) and add over time? Josh, you had mentioned adding you to -advocacy at one point? On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Tom Lane wrote: > "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@turnstep.com> writes: >>> I try to do it more often, but *at least* on the weekend I make sure I get >>> all the lists cleared out ... > >> Would it help if the work was more shared? I daily clean out a number of lists, >> and could certainly add in some of the pg ones. If we had a few more people, >> particularly in overlapping time zones (e.g. US, Russia, Australia), delays >> would probably drop to a few hours... > > I'd really like to see something like that put in place. I'm feeling > annoyed right now that pgsql-bugs doesn't have better propagation time > for nonmember postings; the crashing bug I fixed today could have been > fixed in 8.0.2 if the report had come in when it was sent ... > > regards, tom lane > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to majordomo@postgresql.org > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
An email from me to hackers 18 hours ago never appeared, and I am
hearing on IRC of other missing emails.
Would someone check the mail queues? My missing email was:
From pgman Sat Apr 9 17:30:15 2005
Subject: Three-byte Unicode characters
In-Reply-To: <25403.1113103724@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:18:25 -0400 (EDT)
cc: John Hansen <john@geeknet.com.au>,
Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au>,
pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121 (25)]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Length: 2066
I re-emailed it this morning and it appeared immediately.
--
Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us
pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001
+ If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road
+ Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
ok.
I attach his message.
Oleg
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> Insufficient information here, but I suspect this is someone not subscribed
> to the list, that sits in the moderator queue until its approved for posting,
> which I just went through all of for pgsql-hackers today ...
>
> If you could include the From on this (unless I'm just blind?), i can confirm
> whether the person is on the lists or not ...
>
> Bruce's I take seriously, since I know he's on the list, and I check the
> moderator queue to make sure it hadn't gotten 'stuck' somehow ...
>
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
>
>> I regularly observer many days delay, for example, I just received posting
>> from April 4 !
>>
>> Received: from hosting.commandprompt.com (128.commandprompt.com
>> [207.173.200.128])
>> by ra.sai.msu.su (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3AJF7Hu028411;
>> Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:15:08 +0400 (MSD)
>> Received: from postgresql.org (svr1.postgresql.org [200.46.204.71])
>> by hosting.commandprompt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id
>> j3AJ69me025117;
>> Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:06:58 -0700
>> X-Original-To: pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org
>> Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144])
>> by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C23752A4B
>> for <pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org>; Tue,
>> 5 Apr 2005 08:51:13 +0100 (BST)
>> Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71])
>> by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
>> with ESMTP id 46543-01
>> for <pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org>;
>> Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:51:02 +0000 (GMT)
>>
>>
>> Oleg
>>
>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I don't see it in the archives ... and there isn't anything in the queue
>>> ... do you have a message-id I can search /var/log/maillog with?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>>>
>>>> An email from me to hackers 18 hours ago never appeared, and I am
>>>> hearing on IRC of other missing emails.
>>>>
>>>> Would someone check the mail queues? My missing email was:
>>>>
>>>> From pgman Sat Apr 9 17:30:15 2005
>>>> Subject: Three-byte Unicode characters
>>>> In-Reply-To: <25403.1113103724@sss.pgh.pa.us>
>>>> To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
>>>> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:18:25 -0400 (EDT)
>>>> cc: John Hansen <john@geeknet.com.au>,
>>>> Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au>,
>>>> pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
>>>> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121 (25)]
>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>>>> Content-Length: 2066
>>>>
>>>> I re-emailed it this morning and it appeared immediately.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us
>>>> pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001
>>>> + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road
>>>> + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania
>>>> 19073
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
>>>> TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
>>>>
>>>
>>> ----
>>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services
>>> (http://www.hub.org)
>>> Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ:
>>> 7615664
>>>
>>> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
>>> TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ?
>>>
>>> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
>>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Oleg
>> _____________________________________________________________
>> Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet,
>> Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)
>> Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
>> phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83
>>
>
> ----
> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
> Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
>
Regards,
Oleg
_____________________________________________________________
Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet,
Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)
Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83
Attachment
looks like one I approved today, yes On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, Oleg Bartunov wrote: > ok. > I attach his message. > > Oleg > On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> >> Insufficient information here, but I suspect this is someone not subscribed >> to the list, that sits in the moderator queue until its approved for >> posting, which I just went through all of for pgsql-hackers today ... >> >> If you could include the From on this (unless I'm just blind?), i can >> confirm whether the person is on the lists or not ... >> >> Bruce's I take seriously, since I know he's on the list, and I check the >> moderator queue to make sure it hadn't gotten 'stuck' somehow ... >> >> On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, Oleg Bartunov wrote: >> >>> I regularly observer many days delay, for example, I just received posting >>> from April 4 ! >>> >>> Received: from hosting.commandprompt.com (128.commandprompt.com >>> [207.173.200.128]) >>> by ra.sai.msu.su (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3AJF7Hu028411; >>> Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:15:08 +0400 (MSD) >>> Received: from postgresql.org (svr1.postgresql.org [200.46.204.71]) >>> by hosting.commandprompt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id >>> j3AJ69me025117; >>> Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:06:58 -0700 >>> X-Original-To: pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org >>> Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) >>> by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C23752A4B >>> for <pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org>; Tue, >>> 5 Apr 2005 08:51:13 +0100 (BST) >>> Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) >>> by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) >>> with ESMTP id 46543-01 >>> for <pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org>; >>> Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:51:02 +0000 (GMT) >>> >>> >>> Oleg >>> >>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I don't see it in the archives ... and there isn't anything in the queue >>>> ... do you have a message-id I can search /var/log/maillog with? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: >>>> >>>>> An email from me to hackers 18 hours ago never appeared, and I am >>>>> hearing on IRC of other missing emails. >>>>> >>>>> Would someone check the mail queues? My missing email was: >>>>> >>>>> From pgman Sat Apr 9 17:30:15 2005 >>>>> Subject: Three-byte Unicode characters >>>>> In-Reply-To: <25403.1113103724@sss.pgh.pa.us> >>>>> To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> >>>>> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:18:25 -0400 (EDT) >>>>> cc: John Hansen <john@geeknet.com.au>, >>>>> Christopher Kings-Lynne <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au>, >>>>> pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org >>>>> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121 (25)] >>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>>>> Content-Length: 2066 >>>>> >>>>> I re-emailed it this morning and it appeared immediately. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us >>>>> pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 >>>>> + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road >>>>> + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania >>>>> 19073 >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >>>>> TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings >>>>> >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services >>>> (http://www.hub.org) >>>> Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: >>>> 7615664 >>>> >>>> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >>>> TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? >>>> >>>> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq >>>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Oleg >>> _____________________________________________________________ >>> Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet, >>> Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia) >>> Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/ >>> phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83 >>> >> >> ---- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) >> Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 >> > > Regards, > Oleg > _____________________________________________________________ > Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet, > Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia) > Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/ > phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83 ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > list volume wise, I'd say -general, -hackers, -bugs and -interfaces ... > -jdbc already has someone from the JDBC group monitoring ... Greg, want me > ot add you as moderator for the 4 above? Or start with just one (-bugs?) > and add over time? I'll try all four - I read those four daily regularly anyway. Thanks, - -- Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200504110701 http://biglumber.com/x/web?pk=2529DF6AB8F79407E94445B4BC9B906714964AC8 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFCWllsvJuQZxSWSsgRAoPKAJwIud4gc3HCSKOkiVtZH395a3KJpwCfYZUM EvKANm7q+g/naYcj/Pp0flc= =b0oU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----