Thread: bug message not CC'ing poster

bug message not CC'ing poster

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
I just got this email from the bugs list:

    [BUGS] BUG #1107: Missing feature: interval <-> numeric quantity conversion

The email had the bugs list as a reply, but no entry for the original
poster.  I had to copy his email address from the email body into the
CC.  Is the bug form posting configured properly?

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Re: bug message not CC'ing poster

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> I just got this email from the bugs list:
>     [BUGS] BUG #1107: Missing feature: interval <-> numeric quantity conversion
> The email had the bugs list as a reply, but no entry for the original
> poster.  I had to copy his email address from the email body into the
> CC.  Is the bug form posting configured properly?

This has been complained of before.  It used to be that the bug form
sent mail with the submitter shown in the From: line.  Lately it is
producing mail From: "PostgreSQL Bugs List" <pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org>
which is really quite useless.  It'd be nice to get back to the old
behavior so you don't have to hand-hack the headers of your reply.

            regards, tom lane

Re: bug message not CC'ing poster

From
Robert Treat
Date:
On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 10:46, Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> > I just got this email from the bugs list:
> >     [BUGS] BUG #1107: Missing feature: interval <-> numeric quantity conversion
> > The email had the bugs list as a reply, but no entry for the original
> > poster.  I had to copy his email address from the email body into the
> > CC.  Is the bug form posting configured properly?
>
> This has been complained of before.  It used to be that the bug form
> sent mail with the submitter shown in the From: line.  Lately it is
> producing mail From: "PostgreSQL Bugs List" <pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org>
> which is really quite useless.  It'd be nice to get back to the old
> behavior so you don't have to hand-hack the headers of your reply.
>

I'm just guessing the behavior was changed to keep form emails from
being delayed via non-subscribed emails trying to post to the list? I
think we should be able to set the reply-to headers to include both
pgsql-bugs and the submitters email address... would that be accetable?

Robert Treat
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Re: bug message not CC'ing poster

From
"Dave Page"
Date:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:pgman@candle.pha.pa.us]
> Sent: 18 March 2004 15:30
> To: PostgreSQL www
> Subject: [pgsql-www] bug message not CC'ing poster
>
> I just got this email from the bugs list:
>
>     [BUGS] BUG #1107: Missing feature: interval <-> numeric
> quantity conversion
>
> The email had the bugs list as a reply, but no entry for the
> original poster.  I had to copy his email address from the
> email body into the CC.  Is the bug form posting configured properly?
>

Yes, it was to avoid the need for moderator approval. I have changed
this now, but it does mean bugs will be delayed until approved.

Regards, Dave.

Re: bug message not CC'ing poster

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Robert Treat wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 10:46, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> > > I just got this email from the bugs list:
> > >     [BUGS] BUG #1107: Missing feature: interval <-> numeric quantity conversion
> > > The email had the bugs list as a reply, but no entry for the original
> > > poster.  I had to copy his email address from the email body into the
> > > CC.  Is the bug form posting configured properly?
> >
> > This has been complained of before.  It used to be that the bug form
> > sent mail with the submitter shown in the From: line.  Lately it is
> > producing mail From: "PostgreSQL Bugs List" <pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org>
> > which is really quite useless.  It'd be nice to get back to the old
> > behavior so you don't have to hand-hack the headers of your reply.
> >
>
> I'm just guessing the behavior was changed to keep form emails from
> being delayed via non-subscribed emails trying to post to the list? I
> think we should be able to set the reply-to headers to include both
> pgsql-bugs and the submitters email address... would that be accetable?

Yes, that is what I would expect it to do.  Ideally the email would have
a CC of bugs and reply to the original submitter, but I am not sure that
is possible.

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Re: bug message not CC'ing poster

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Dave Page wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:pgman@candle.pha.pa.us]
> > Sent: 18 March 2004 15:30
> > To: PostgreSQL www
> > Subject: [pgsql-www] bug message not CC'ing poster
> >
> > I just got this email from the bugs list:
> >
> >     [BUGS] BUG #1107: Missing feature: interval <-> numeric
> > quantity conversion
> >
> > The email had the bugs list as a reply, but no entry for the
> > original poster.  I had to copy his email address from the
> > email body into the CC.  Is the bug form posting configured properly?
> >
>
> Yes, it was to avoid the need for moderator approval. I have changed
> this now, but it does mean bugs will be delayed until approved.

Oh, interesting problem.  What if we keep the current behavior, but set
the CC to bugs and reply-to as the submitter?

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Re: bug message not CC'ing poster

From
"Dave Page"
Date:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:pgman@candle.pha.pa.us]
> Sent: 18 March 2004 16:14
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: PostgreSQL www
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] bug message not CC'ing poster
>
> Oh, interesting problem.  What if we keep the current
> behavior, but set the CC to bugs and reply-to as the submitter?

OK, I changed it to:

$headers = "From: \"PostgreSQL Bugs List\"
<pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org>\n";
$headers .= "Reply-To: \"" . stripslashes($name) . "\" <" .
stripslashes("$email") . ">\n";

I haven't have a 'please wait for approval' message yet which is good -
can you see my second test on the list (I'm not subscribed); the problem
details just say 'stuff'?

Regards Dave.



Re: bug message not CC'ing poster

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Robert Treat <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> writes:
> I'm just guessing the behavior was changed to keep form emails from
> being delayed via non-subscribed emails trying to post to the list?

Dunno, delay was never a problem with the old implementation.  I think
Marc may have some special case in place in the mail list software
to allow bug-form reports to pass through.  Marc?

I'd prefer the From: line to get fixed anyway.  Even though setting a
reply-to line would suffice for getting a reply's To: field correct,
it would not help the problem that quote insertion produces
    pgsql-bugs writes:
    > ...
rather than
    <submittername> writes:
    > ...
which is really the polite way to phrase it.

            regards, tom lane

Re: bug message not CC'ing poster

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Tom Lane wrote:
> Robert Treat <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> writes:
> > I'm just guessing the behavior was changed to keep form emails from
> > being delayed via non-subscribed emails trying to post to the list?
>
> Dunno, delay was never a problem with the old implementation.  I think
> Marc may have some special case in place in the mail list software
> to allow bug-form reports to pass through.  Marc?
>
> I'd prefer the From: line to get fixed anyway.  Even though setting a
> reply-to line would suffice for getting a reply's To: field correct,
> it would not help the problem that quote insertion produces
>     pgsql-bugs writes:
>     > ...
> rather than
>     <submittername> writes:
>     > ...
> which is really the polite way to phrase it.

I like the currently fixed setup.  I like the fact that they come in
with no delay, and reply/group reply work fine.

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Re: bug message not CC'ing poster

From
Tom Lane
Date:
"Dave Page" <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk> writes:
> OK, I changed it to:

> $headers = "From: \"PostgreSQL Bugs List\"
> <pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org>\n";
> $headers .= "Reply-To: \"" . stripslashes($name) . "\" <" .
> stripslashes("$email") . ">\n";

> I haven't have a 'please wait for approval' message yet which is good -
> can you see my second test on the list (I'm not subscribed); the problem
> details just say 'stuff'?

It's there, but the From: line still says PostgreSQL Bugs List ...

            regards, tom lane

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The following bug has been logged online:

Bug reference:      1109
Logged by:          Dave Page

Email address:      dpage@postgresql.org

PostgreSQL version: 7.5 Dev

Operating system:   Linux

Description:        Testing again

Details:

Stuff...


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Re: bug message not CC'ing poster

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Tom Lane wrote:

> Robert Treat <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> writes:
> > I'm just guessing the behavior was changed to keep form emails from
> > being delayed via non-subscribed emails trying to post to the list?
>
> Dunno, delay was never a problem with the old implementation.  I think
> Marc may have some special case in place in the mail list software
> to allow bug-form reports to pass through.  Marc?

Actually, I'd have to open up the list completely to any postings ... the
only thing I can really base things off of us the From address ...

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Re: bug message not CC'ing poster

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Tom Lane wrote:
>
> > Robert Treat <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> writes:
> > > I'm just guessing the behavior was changed to keep form emails from
> > > being delayed via non-subscribed emails trying to post to the list?
> >
> > Dunno, delay was never a problem with the old implementation.  I think
> > Marc may have some special case in place in the mail list software
> > to allow bug-form reports to pass through.  Marc?
>
> Actually, I'd have to open up the list completely to any postings ... the
> only thing I can really base things off of us the From address ...

Yea, that's what I suspected.  Seems it is now as good as we can get.

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Re: bug message not CC'ing poster

From
Tom Lane
Date:
"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org> writes:
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Dunno, delay was never a problem with the old implementation.  I think
>> Marc may have some special case in place in the mail list software
>> to allow bug-form reports to pass through.  Marc?

> Actually, I'd have to open up the list completely to any postings ... the
> only thing I can really base things off of us the From address ...

I looked back and found that my recollection was wrong.  The old bug
form generated this:

To: pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org
From: pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org
Reply-To: <submitter>, pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org

so I guess reply-to is what it'll have to be.

            regards, tom lane