Thread: PostgreSQL.org v3 -- Progress?

People,

First of all, I posted questions regarding getting jobs.postgresql.org built
last week and received no feedback whatsoever other than a request for the
PDF from Francisco.   Is everybody on vacation?

Second, my web guru pointed out to me that in addition to www.postgresql.org
being multi-language, some parts of the web site need to be multi-*locale* as
well.   For example, News, Events, Jobs, etc.   Just because the Spanish and
the Mexicans speak the same language it doesn't mean that the Spanish want to
know about  training courses in Jalisco.

Thirdly, and most importantly:   A professional design firm has offered their
pro-bono help with web design (they are PostgreSQL users).   Do we want them
involved in the WWW effort, and if so, how?

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh Berkus [mailto:josh@agliodbs.com]
> Sent: 09 December 2003 17:55
> To: pgsql-www@postgresql.org
> Subject: [pgsql-www] PostgreSQL.org v3 -- Progress?
>
> People,
>
> First of all, I posted questions regarding getting
> jobs.postgresql.org built last week and received no feedback
> whatsoever other than a request for the
> PDF from Francisco.   Is everybody on vacation?

No, just very busy with uni work (in my case anyhoo). I finish this
module tomorrow, and with the exception of having to come up with a
dissertation topic (suggestions *very* welcome - it's for an MSc in IT)
I'm now on a break until February so will hopefully have a bit more time
free.

I'm fairly indifferent about how the site is designed from a s/w spec
point of view. What I do think matters is:

- the design should match what we're aiming for on the portal (the most
common complaint I hear is that all our sites look different).

- the look and feel should be centralised so we can update the design of
the entire site by changing only a single stylesheet and template or
similar.

- Ideally please use PHP/PostgreSQL as that is what most of us know.

As for your pal putting his name on his work, I think that is only fair
if he is doing the work, as long as it is not obtrusive.

> Second, my web guru pointed out to me that in addition to
> www.postgresql.org being multi-language, some parts of the
> web site need to be multi-*locale* as
> well.   For example, News, Events, Jobs, etc.   Just because
> the Spanish and
> the Mexicans speak the same language it doesn't mean that the
> Spanish want to know about  training courses in Jalisco.

I assume that's fairly easy isn't it Andreas? Just a case of using the
full identifier in the code (eg pt_BR for Brazilian Portuguese or pt_PT
for Portuguese Portuguese).

> Thirdly, and most importantly:   A professional design firm
> has offered their
> pro-bono help with web design (they are PostgreSQL users).
> Do we want them
> involved in the WWW effort, and if so, how?

I think we need some commitment of the work being undertaken by the rest
of the team first - our major problem seems to be that although we're
all basically enthusiastic, we're all pretty busy. I think the main
priorities right now should be v3.0, but then there is also a new
techdocs site to consider as well. So, Andreas, Michael et al. can you
let us know if you have any sort of roadmap for getting v3 live?

Cheers, Dave.

Dave,

> dissertation topic (suggestions *very* welcome - it's for an MSc in IT)

Sorry, can't help -- my degree is in Fine Art.

> - the design should match what we're aiming for on the portal (the most
> common complaint I hear is that all our sites look different).
>
> - the look and feel should be centralised so we can update the design of
> the entire site by changing only a single stylesheet and template or
> similar.

Yes.   Our plan was to make jobs.postgresql.org an application within the
PostgreSQL.org CSS+"frame".   That's why we need that code before we can
proceed.  Can we decide on  a "final" CSS out of the ones presented so that
we can start work on this?

> - Ideally please use PHP/PostgreSQL as that is what most of us know.

Oh, sorry, didn't mention that?   Yes, that will be the technology employed.

> As for your pal putting his name on his work, I think that is only fair
> if he is doing the work, as long as it is not obtrusive.

Good.  I was thinking a text link at the bottom of the screen.

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh Berkus [mailto:josh@agliodbs.com]
> Sent: 09 December 2003 19:17
> To: Dave Page; pgsql-www@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] PostgreSQL.org v3 -- Progress?
>
> Dave,
>
> > dissertation topic (suggestions *very* welcome - it's for an MSc in
> > IT)
>
> Sorry, can't help -- my degree is in Fine Art.

That's gotta be one of the more unusual direction changes I've come
across - how did you get into IT if you don't mind me asking?

> > - the design should match what we're aiming for on the portal (the
> > most common complaint I hear is that all our sites look different).
> >
> > - the look and feel should be centralised so we can update
> the design
> > of the entire site by changing only a single stylesheet and
> template
> > or similar.
>
> Yes.   Our plan was to make jobs.postgresql.org an
> application within the
> PostgreSQL.org CSS+"frame".   That's why we need that code
> before we can
> proceed.  Can we decide on  a "final" CSS out of the ones
> presented so that we can start work on this?

I have yet to see one that made me go 'wow' unfortunately. Andreas and
Michael's new version of the existing code is the one I like most at the
moment, but it still needs work. Currently though, I think that the
major redesign is less of a priority - the re-coding should allow us to
easily apply a new design at a later date.

> > - Ideally please use PHP/PostgreSQL as that is what most of us know.
>
> Oh, sorry, didn't mention that?   Yes, that will be the
> technology employed.

You might have done, I was replying from memory.

Regards, Dave.

On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 14:16, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Yes.   Our plan was to make jobs.postgresql.org an application within the
> PostgreSQL.org CSS+"frame".   That's why we need that code before we can
> proceed.  Can we decide on  a "final" CSS out of the ones presented so that
> we can start work on this?

In the mean time can somebody update the current jobs page to the text I
sent in last week...

Robert Treat
--
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL

On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, at 05:14 AM, Dave Page wrote:
> I have yet to see one that made me go 'wow' unfortunately. Andreas and
> Michael's new version of the existing code is the one I like most at
> the
> moment, but it still needs work. Currently though, I think that the
> major redesign is less of a priority - the re-coding should allow us to
> easily apply a new design at a later date.

With the end of the year and holidays approaching, things have been
pretty hectic at work. I'll be able to spend a more time on this in a
week and a half or so.

Michael Glaesemann
grzm myrealbox com