Thread: Does PG support bulk operation in embedded C

Does PG support bulk operation in embedded C

From
"Ravi Krishna"
Date:
To explain pls refer to this for DB2

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSEPGG_9.7.0/com.ibm.db2.luw.apdv.cli.doc/doc/r0002329.html

Essentially in one single sql call, we can do
-- Add new rows
-- Update a set of rows where each row is identified by a bookmark
-- Delete a set of rows where each row is identified by a bookmark
-- Fetch a set of rows where each row is identified by a bookmark

This gives tremendous performance benefits as the network round trip is
avoided for each sql.

I am looking for an equivalent of this in PG and C language.

Thanks.



Re: [GENERAL] Does PG support bulk operation in embedded C

From
"Joshua D. Drake"
Date:
On 05/19/2015 04:47 PM, Ravi Krishna wrote:
>
> To explain pls refer to this for DB2
>
> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSEPGG_9.7.0/com.ibm.db2.luw.apdv.cli.doc/doc/r0002329.html
>
>
> Essentially in one single sql call, we can do
> -- Add new rows
> -- Update a set of rows where each row is identified by a bookmark
> -- Delete a set of rows where each row is identified by a bookmark
> -- Fetch a set of rows where each row is identified by a bookmark
>
> This gives tremendous performance benefits as the network round trip is
> avoided for each sql.
>
> I am looking for an equivalent of this in PG and C language.

For embedded C, I believe you are looking for:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.4/static/ecpg.html


>
> Thanks.
>
>
>


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Re: [GENERAL] Does PG support bulk operation in embedded C

From
"Ravi Krishna"
Date:
<div style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: 12.0px;"><div><div>Not sure whether I am understanding this. I checked
embeddedC and did not find any section which describes what I have asked, that is the ability to do multiple inserts,
orupdates or deletes in one sql call. For example, if my application does the following<br /><br /> BEGIN
TRANSACTION<br/>    INSERT INTO TABLE_A<br />    UPDATE TABLE_B<br />    INSERT INTO TABLE_C</div><div>COMMIT
TRANSACTION</div><div><br/> DB2 provides to combine the three sql operations into an array and make a call to DB2 which
executesthe array (that is all 3 sqls as one single call).<br /><br /> I am looking for something similar in PG.<br
/><br/> thanks</div><div>  <div name="quote" style="margin: 10px 5px 5px 10px; padding: 10px 0px 10px 10px;
border-left-color:rgb(195, 217, 229); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; -ms-word-wrap: break-word;
-webkit-nbsp-mode:space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="margin: 0px 0px
10px;"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday,May 19, 2015 at 8:13 PM<br /><b>From:</b> "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com><br
/><b>To:</b> "RaviKrishna" <srkrishna@gmx.com>, pgsql-sql@postgresql.org<br
/><b>Cc:</b> pgsql-general@postgresql.org<br/><b>Subject:</b> Re: [SQL] [GENERAL] Does PG support bulk operation in
embeddedC</div><div name="quoted-content"><br /> On 05/19/2015 04:47 PM, Ravi Krishna wrote:<br /> ><br /> > To
explainpls refer to this for DB2<br /> ><br /> > <a
href="http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSEPGG_9.7.0/com.ibm.db2.luw.apdv.cli.doc/doc/r0002329.html"
target="_blank">http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSEPGG_9.7.0/com.ibm.db2.luw.apdv.cli.doc/doc/r0002329.html</a><br
/>><br /> ><br /> > Essentially in one single sql call, we can do<br /> > -- Add new rows<br /> > --
Updatea set of rows where each row is identified by a bookmark<br /> > -- Delete a set of rows where each row is
identifiedby a bookmark<br /> > -- Fetch a set of rows where each row is identified by a bookmark<br /> ><br />
>This gives tremendous performance benefits as the network round trip is<br /> > avoided for each sql.<br />
><br/> > I am looking for an equivalent of this in PG and C language.<br /><br /> For embedded C, I believe you
arelooking for:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.4/static/ecpg.html"
target="_blank">http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.4/static/ecpg.html</a><br/><br /><br /> ><br /> > Thanks.<br />
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Re: [GENERAL] Does PG support bulk operation in embedded C

From
"Joshua D. Drake"
Date:
On 05/19/2015 05:27 PM, Ravi Krishna wrote:
> Not sure whether I am understanding this. I checked embedded C and did
> not find any section which describes what I have asked, that is the
> ability to do multiple inserts, or updates or deletes in one sql call.
> For example, if my application does the following
>
> BEGIN TRANSACTION
>     INSERT INTO TABLE_A
>     UPDATE TABLE_B
>     INSERT INTO TABLE_C
> COMMIT TRANSACTION

Well PostgreSQL certainly supports the above.

>
> DB2 provides to combine the three sql operations into an array and make
> a call to DB2 which executes the array (that is all 3 sqls as one single
> call).

You can do this with inserts using multivalue.

INSERT INTO TABLE_A VALUES (), (), ();

I am not sure about UPDATE or DELETE, I know you can use WITH on DELETE
which gives you some flexibility.

I don't think you will get a one to one comparison but you should be
able to get close.

JD




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Re: [GENERAL] Does PG support bulk operation in embedded C

From
Michael Paquier
Date:
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Ravi Krishna <srkrishna@gmx.com> wrote:
> Essentially in one single sql call, we can do
> -- Add new rows
> -- Update a set of rows where each row is identified by a bookmark
> -- Delete a set of rows where each row is identified by a bookmark
> -- Fetch a set of rows where each row is identified by a bookmark
>
> This gives tremendous performance benefits as the network round trip is
> avoided for each sql.
>
> I am looking for an equivalent of this in PG and C language.

What you are looking at could be accomplished with a user-defined function:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/xfunc.html
Perhaps you are looking for something in C, now it would be less
complex to do it for example with pl/pgsql or another language, and
call it from a C client with a correct set of arguments satisfying
your needs.
--
Michael


Re: [GENERAL] Does PG support bulk operation in embedded C

From
john
Date:
If I'm reading what IBM has on the SQLBulkOperations function correctly 
you have to know the size in advance - than does not sound like an 
advantage.
Anyway, taking the function name 'bulk' into account - I think you want 
find the best way to to insert a large number of row/records.

Review the 'copy' command to populate a database:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/populate.html  - read 
carefully as it will increase performance in a dramatic way.

update and delete - well even in DB2 you are still doing the same thing 
as Postgres - the only difference is it's handled without sending the 
command.  Whatever, the overhead - it's very small.

Johnf

On 05/19/2015 05:36 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
> On 05/19/2015 05:27 PM, Ravi Krishna wrote:
>> Not sure whether I am understanding this. I checked embedded C and did
>> not find any section which describes what I have asked, that is the
>> ability to do multiple inserts, or updates or deletes in one sql call.
>> For example, if my application does the following
>>
>> BEGIN TRANSACTION
>>     INSERT INTO TABLE_A
>>     UPDATE TABLE_B
>>     INSERT INTO TABLE_C
>> COMMIT TRANSACTION
>
> Well PostgreSQL certainly supports the above.
>
>>
>> DB2 provides to combine the three sql operations into an array and make
>> a call to DB2 which executes the array (that is all 3 sqls as one single
>> call).
>
> You can do this with inserts using multivalue.
>
> INSERT INTO TABLE_A VALUES (), (), ();
>
> I am not sure about UPDATE or DELETE, I know you can use WITH on 
> DELETE which gives you some flexibility.
>
> I don't think you will get a one to one comparison but you should be 
> able to get close.
>
> JD
>
>
>
>




Re: [GENERAL] Does PG support bulk operation in embedded C

From
"Ravi Krishna"
Date:
> Anyway, taking the function name 'bulk' into account - I think you want 
> find the best way to to insert a large number of row/records.
> 
> Review the 'copy' command to populate a database:
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/populate.html  - read 
> carefully as it will increase performance in a dramatic way.

I am aware of the copy command, but we are talking about application inserting rows from a C++ task
with values coming in variables. Does COPY handle that? COPY looks more closer to sqlloader of Oracle.

DB2 Bulkcopy API is damn good. We have applications inserting tens of rows in one single call.



Re: [GENERAL] Does PG support bulk operation in embedded C

From
Steve Midgley
Date:
<p dir="ltr">I've set up in memory transfers using copy - you do that with the stdout option. Performance is very good
ifyou're on the same machine as the sql server. Obviously network is the bottleneck otherwise. <div
class="gmail_quote">OnMay 20, 2015 8:24 AM, "Ravi Krishna" <<a
href="mailto:srkrishna@gmx.com">srkrishna@gmx.com</a>>wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:00 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br /> > Anyway, taking the function name
'bulk'into account - I think you want<br /> > find the best way to to insert a large number of row/records.<br />
><br/> > Review the 'copy' command to populate a database:<br /> > <a
href="http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/populate.html"
target="_blank">http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/populate.html</a> - read<br /> > carefully as it will
increaseperformance in a dramatic way.<br /><br /> I am aware of the copy command, but we are talking about application
insertingrows from a C++ task<br /> with values coming in variables. Does COPY handle that? COPY looks more closer to
sqlloaderof Oracle.<br /><br /> DB2 Bulkcopy API is damn good. We have applications inserting tens of rows in one
singlecall.<br /><br /><br /> --<br /> Sent via pgsql-sql mailing list (<a
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Fwd: [GENERAL] Does PG support bulk operation in embedded C

From
Steve Midgley
Date:
<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><p dir="ltr">You can do in-memory transfers using 'copy' - you do that with the
stdoutoption. Performance is very good if you're on the same machine as the sql server. As far as I could see the
transfernever touched the disk (once I loaded the data into memory from a file) and I was getting blistering insert
speeds(this was back in 2009 but if I remember right, the copy speed using this method was 50x the speed of a
traditionalinsert command, even when a bunch of inserts were wrapped in a transaction).<br /><br />I dug up the code I
usedback then - it's in Ruby, using ActiveRecord, and is from 2009 (hasn't been used since). But maybe it is useful for
portingto your environment: <a
href="https://gist.github.com/science/15e97e414d5666c2f486">https://gist.github.com/science/15e97e414d5666c2f486</a><br
/><br/>Obviously network is a likely bottleneck if you're not on the same box.<p dir="ltr"><span
style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">OnMay 20, 2015 8:24 AM, "Ravi Krishna" <</span><a href="mailto:srkrishna@gmx.com"
target="_blank">srkrishna@gmx.com</a><spanstyle="color:rgb(80,0,80)">> wrote:</span><br /><div class=""><div
class="h5"><divclass="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><br/> >
Anyway,taking the function name 'bulk' into account - I think you want<br /> > find the best way to to insert a
largenumber of row/records.<br /> ><br /> > Review the 'copy' command to populate a database:<br /> > <a
href="http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/populate.html"
target="_blank">http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/populate.html</a> - read<br /> > carefully as it will
increaseperformance in a dramatic way.<br /><br /> I am aware of the copy command, but we are talking about application
insertingrows from a C++ task<br /> with values coming in variables. Does COPY handle that? COPY looks more closer to
sqlloaderof Oracle.<br /><br /> DB2 Bulkcopy API is damn good. We have applications inserting tens of rows in one
singlecall.<br /><br /><br /> --<br /> Sent via pgsql-sql mailing list (<a href="mailto:pgsql-sql@postgresql.org"
target="_blank">pgsql-sql@postgresql.org</a>)<br/> To make changes to your subscription:<br /><a
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