Thread: Grass Root Protectionism
I am a Sr. Software Engineer in USA who (like many others) have been unfairly treated with offshore software engineers who have the audacity to take our jobs, yet ask (mostly) American engineers to help them with their technical challenges via Technical Forums (like this one).
One solution is a bit of Grass Root Protectionism by boycotting technical forums. Perhaps if it takes an offshore engineer 2 hours to solve a problem, then the employer would see the real cost implication.
I encourage American engineers who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to develop their skills not to give it away so freely.
Spread the word...
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One solution is a bit of Grass Root Protectionism by boycotting technical forums. Perhaps if it takes an offshore engineer 2 hours to solve a problem, then the employer would see the real cost implication.
I encourage American engineers who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to develop their skills not to give it away so freely.
Spread the word...
Boycott Tech Forums
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Boycott Tech Forums <boycotttechforums@yahoo.com> wrote: > I am a Sr. Software Engineer in USA who (like many others) have been > unfairly treated with offshore software engineers who have the audacity to > take our jobs, yet ask (mostly) American engineers to help them with their > technical challenges via Technical Forums (like this one). > > One solution is a bit of Grass Root Protectionism by boycotting technical > forums. Perhaps if it takes an offshore engineer 2 hours to solve a problem, > then the employer would see the real cost implication. > > I encourage American engineers who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to > develop their skills not to give it away so freely. Without foreign engineers working on pgsql it wouldn't be nearly as far along as it is today. I live and work in America, but I am not about to sign on to this shit.
Oh, and might I ask what you've done for pgsql, Mr. hiding behind an anonymous email address at yahoo?
Scott Marlowe wrote: > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Boycott Tech Forums > <boycotttechforums@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I am a Sr. Software Engineer in USA who (like many others) have been > > unfairly treated with offshore software engineers who have the audacity to > > take our jobs, yet ask (mostly) American engineers to help them with their > > technical challenges via Technical Forums (like this one). > > > > One solution is a bit of Grass Root Protectionism by boycotting technical > > forums. Perhaps if it takes an offshore engineer 2 hours to solve a problem, > > then the employer would see the real cost implication. > > > > I encourage American engineers who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to > > develop their skills not to give it away so freely. > > Without foreign engineers working on pgsql it wouldn't be nearly as > far along as it is today. It is larger than that. Without non-US developers, Postgres would be less than half what it is today, meaning that US Postgres users need to thank the non-US developers for their work over the past 12 years of community Postgres development. It is US people who are benefitting more from the relationship, not non-US people. This is true of many open source projects. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:40:11 -0800 (PST) Boycott Tech Forums <boycotttechforums@yahoo.com> wrote: > I am a Sr. Software Engineer in USA who (like many others) have been unfairly treated with offshore software engineerswho have the audacity to take our jobs, yet ask (mostly) American engineers to help them with their technical challengesvia Technical Forums (like this one). Wow! Someone's email program is really borked. This message has obviously been stuck somewhere since the 19th century. Hey buddy, I know what I, a non-American, have done for this project. What have you done? What's next? Only help white folks? -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain <darcy@druid.net> | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/ | and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082) (eNTP) | what's for dinner.
"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net> writes: > What's next? Only help white folks? This guy doesn't really deserve being responded to. Just ignore him. regards, tom lane
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:39:26 -0500 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net> writes: > > What's next? Only help white folks? > > This guy doesn't really deserve being responded to. Just ignore him. Yes, as I was hitting the send key I wondered if he was just a troll but he managed to hit a few of my buttons. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't even reading this list. I removed him from this reply. Cheers. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain <darcy@druid.net> | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/ | and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082) (eNTP) | what's for dinner.
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 1:50 AM, Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Boycott Tech Forums > <boycotttechforums@yahoo.com> wrote: >> I am a Sr. Software Engineer in USA who (like many others) have been >> unfairly treated with offshore software engineers who have the audacity to >> take our jobs, yet ask (mostly) American engineers to help them with their >> technical challenges via Technical Forums (like this one). >> >> One solution is a bit of Grass Root Protectionism by boycotting technical >> forums. Perhaps if it takes an offshore engineer 2 hours to solve a problem, >> then the employer would see the real cost implication. >> >> I encourage American engineers who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to >> develop their skills not to give it away so freely. > > Without foreign engineers working on pgsql it wouldn't be nearly as > far along as it is today. > > I live and work in America, but I am not about to sign on to this shit. I don't think anyone should take this seriously. If your job is doing something that someone else can do almost as well, you're going to find yourself out of work once in a while. Hoarding trivial information is not going to help you with that - quite the opposite I think. Someone should point out to this "Senior Engineer" that America was built by foreigner labor. Heterogeneity is our greatest asset. But it's not going to be me because I think the whole thing is just a troll or an email harvester. I'm not sure which. Mike
Bruce Momjian writes: > Without non-US developers, Postgres would be less than half what it is > today Without non-US developers, Postgres would be _much_ less than half what it is today, just as it would be much less than half of what it is today without US developers. Cooperation, like trade, is a positive sum game. > It is US people who are benefitting more from the relationship, not > non-US people. All are benefitting. The notion that someone is "winning" and therefor someone else must be "losing" is the OP's false thesis. -- John Hasler john@dhh.gt.org Elmwood, WI USA
D'Arcy J.M. Cain writes: > Hey buddy, I know what I, a non-American, have done for this project. > What have you done? I expect that this guy would tell you that all Free Software is evil and takes food out of the mouths of his children. -- John Hasler john@dhh.gt.org Elmwood, WI USA
Just follow Google's motto "Don't be evil" :-)
We are all engineers from the same field,
so Let's all be friends
Best,
Oliveiros
----- Original Message -----From: Boycott Tech ForumsSent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 6:40 AMSubject: [SQL] Grass Root ProtectionismI am a Sr. Software Engineer in USA who (like many others) have been unfairly treated with offshore software engineers who have the audacity to take our jobs, yet ask (mostly) American engineers to help them with their technical challenges via Technical Forums (like this one).
One solution is a bit of Grass Root Protectionism by boycotting technical forums. Perhaps if it takes an offshore engineer 2 hours to solve a problem, then the employer would see the real cost implication.
I encourage American engineers who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to develop their skills not to give it away so freely.
Spread the word...
Boycott Tech Forums
Tom Lane wrote: > "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net> writes: >> What's next? Only help white folks? > > This guy doesn't really deserve being responded to. Just ignore him. > > regards, tom lane > You're right, just ignore ignore him. As we say in France : il y a des cons partout. -- Tovo J. RABEMANANTSOA INRA - UR1263 EPHYSE 71, Av. Edouard Bourlaux F-33140 Villenave d'Ornon - France Téléphone : +33 5 57 12 24 09