Thread: RFC - change of behaviour of pg_get_userbyid & pg_get_viewdef?

RFC - change of behaviour of pg_get_userbyid & pg_get_viewdef?

From
Philip Warner
Date:
Two routines do eccentric things when they can't find required supporting
data:

pg_get_userbyid

    returns 'unknown (UID=<uid-number>)' when the UID does not exist.

pg_get_viewdef

    returns 'Not a view' when passed a non-existant or non-view table
    it also signals errors when the underlying metadata can not be found.

The proposal is to return NULL in the above cases - in the final case,
probably also generate a NOTICE.

Does anybody have a problem with this? Think it's a bad idea etc?



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Re: [HACKERS] RFC - change of behaviour of pg_get_userbyid & pg_get_viewdef?

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Philip Warner <pjw@rhyme.com.au> writes:
> pg_get_viewdef

>     returns 'Not a view' when passed a non-existant or non-view table
>     it also signals errors when the underlying metadata can not be found.

> The proposal is to return NULL in the above cases - in the final case,
> probably also generate a NOTICE.

I don't believe it's practical to trap errors and return a NULL for
broken views.  Moreover, I do not think it's a good idea to respond
to client errors (invalid view name) the same as database problems
(broken views).  So, I agree with the part of the proposal that says
to return NULL instead of 'Not a view' when there is no view by the
given name, but I do not agree with trying to suppress errors due to
metadata problems.

            regards, tom lane

Re: [HACKERS] RFC - change of behaviour of pg_get_userbyid & pg_get_viewdef?

From
Philip Warner
Date:
At 19:22 24/09/00 -0500, Dominic J. Eidson wrote:
>
>In these cases, is NULL = 0? - What if it returns the UID for "root"
>(typically UID 0)... I think an error message should/would be better in
>this case.
>

No NULL is NULL, a special value that usually means 'nothing found'.


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Change of behaviour of pg_get_userbyid & pg_get_viewdef - do it?

From
Philip Warner
Date:
Based on the lack of reaction on GENERAL and SQL, I am inclined to go ahead
with the
changes below at least as far as returning NULL instead of 'Not a View' or
'unknown (UID=<uid-number>)' (as per Tom's request), if noone objects...


At 13:15 24/09/00 +1000, Philip Warner wrote:
>
>Two routines do eccentric things when they can't find required supporting
>data:
>
>pg_get_userbyid
>
>    returns 'unknown (UID=<uid-number>)' when the UID does not exist.
>
>pg_get_viewdef
>
>    returns 'Not a view' when passed a non-existant or non-view table
>    it also signals errors when the underlying metadata can not be found.
>
>The proposal is to return NULL in the above cases - in the final case,
>probably also generate a NOTICE.
>
>Does anybody have a problem with this? Think it's a bad idea etc?
>

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