Thread: Float Percision with MS Access 97

Float Percision with MS Access 97

From
Michael Calabrese
Date:
If I have a table with a float4 and it has greater
precision that 4 to the left of the decimal point,
Access will not let me change that record and gives me
a write conflict.  I have troubleshooted the problem
to the point that Access when changing a record checks
all known fields as part of the update statement (even
though it has, and knows it has, the index).

For example: if I have a table with the following

Parts:
PartID  Name   Price   Count
555     Tubing 2.50    101.123456

MS Access seems to get the count from the ODBC driver
as 101.1234.  When you build a screen that has all of
the fields in the then change Price Access does the
following:

UPDATE Parts
SET Price = 2.75
WHERE PartID = 555
  AND Name = 'Tubing'
  AND Price = 2.5
  AND Count = 101.1234;

This causes a "write conflict" because the counts are
not equal.

Is there are way to get more precision from the ODBC
driver or am I missing a setting somewhere?

Thanks in advance,
Michael Calabrese
Bike Friday
m2calabr-AT-yahoo-DOT-com


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Re: Float Percision with MS Access 97

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Michael Calabrese <m2calabr@yahoo.com> writes:
> If I have a table with a float4 and it has greater
> precision that 4 to the left of the decimal point,
> Access will not let me change that record and gives me
> a write conflict.

You do realize that float4 only carries about six decimal digits of
precision on most machines?

> For example: if I have a table with the following

> Parts:
> PartID  Name   Price   Count
> 555     Tubing 2.50    101.123456

> MS Access seems to get the count from the ODBC driver
> as 101.1234.

And did well to get that, rather than 101.123.

Try float8 or numeric if you want more digits.

            regards, tom lane

Re: Float Percision with MS Access 97

From
Michael Calabrese
Date:
I am sorry, but I guess I did not make my question
clear. I am not looking for greater backend precision
(ie moving to float8).  There seems to be a
mis-comunication between Access and postgres with
float4.
Access is seeing the number with fewer digits than
want must be in postgres.  If I do a :
UPDATE Parts SET Count = round(Count,4);
Then the access query from my first email will work.
This is a pain right now because my users will get a
write conflict error, call me, I will find the
offending field, do and Update with the round(x,4),
then it will work.

I could fix it by putting round(x,4) with all float
fields, but this seems like a poor fix.


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RE: Float Precision with MS Access 97

From
"Joseph"
Date:
Here is a quote from someone else's email

>>>
Are you using Row Versioning? This uses the xmin field so that it will be
necessary to relink the tables. MS Access can then use the primary key and
xmin to identify a row as exactly the same row it earlier retrieved. If you
don't do this access does uses all the fields (bar memo and BLOB's) in the
where condition of the update. This can lead to precision problems with
floats.
You will also need this in the back end to allow comparison of int4 to xid:
create function int4eq(xid,int4)
    returns bool
    as ''
    language 'internal';

create operator =

    leftarg=xid,
    rightarg=int4,
    procedure=int4eq,
    commutator='=',
    negator='<>',
    restrict=eqsel,
    join=eqjoinsel
);
<<<

This does fix the problem. The trouble is that access compares each field to
determine which record to update when really all it needs is the oid.

Relinking with row versioning fixed my problem. I don't know what to say if
you need creater precision... could you use numeric data type for really big
numbers?

respectfully,
Joseph
=============


-----Original Message-----
From: pgsql-odbc-owner@postgresql.org
[mailto:pgsql-odbc-owner@postgresql.org]On Behalf Of Michael Calabrese
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 6:03 PM
To: pgsql-odbc@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [ODBC] Float Percision with MS Access 97


I am sorry, but I guess I did not make my question
clear. I am not looking for greater backend precision
(ie moving to float8).  There seems to be a
mis-comunication between Access and postgres with
float4.
Access is seeing the number with fewer digits than
want must be in postgres.  If I do a :
UPDATE Parts SET Count = round(Count,4);
Then the access query from my first email will work.
This is a pain right now because my users will get a
write conflict error, call me, I will find the
offending field, do and Update with the round(x,4),
then it will work.

I could fix it by putting round(x,4) with all float
fields, but this seems like a poor fix.


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RE: Float Percision with MS Access 97

From
"Henshall, Stuart - WCP"
Date:
I use Row Versioning to get around this (my thanks to who ever put that in).
You'll need to re-link as it adds in the xmin field. Access will then use
the Primary Key and xmin in its where clause to identify the row.
Hope this helps,
- Stuart

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    Michael Calabrese [SMTP:m2calabr@yahoo.com]
> Sent:    Monday, August 20, 2001 11:03 PM
> To:    pgsql-odbc@postgresql.org
> Subject:    Re: Float Percision with MS Access 97
>
> I am sorry, but I guess I did not make my question
> clear. I am not looking for greater backend precision
> (ie moving to float8).  There seems to be a
> mis-comunication between Access and postgres with
> float4.
> Access is seeing the number with fewer digits than
> want must be in postgres.  If I do a :
> UPDATE Parts SET Count = round(Count,4);
> Then the access query from my first email will work.
> This is a pain right now because my users will get a
> write conflict error, call me, I will find the
> offending field, do and Update with the round(x,4),
> then it will work.
>
> I could fix it by putting round(x,4) with all float
> fields, but this seems like a poor fix.
>
>
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