Thread: Typo in plperl doc ?

Typo in plperl doc ?

From
"Jehan-Guillaume (ioguix) de Rorthais"
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Hey,

While translating the plperl page from the manual, I found the following
sentence:
 The <varname>%_SHARED</varname> variable and other global state within the language is public data.

Should it be :
 The <varname>%_SHARED</varname> variable and other global variables within the language are public data.

?
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Re: Typo in plperl doc ?

From
Robert Haas
Date:
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Jehan-Guillaume (ioguix) de Rorthais
<ioguix@free.fr> wrote:
> While translating the plperl page from the manual, I found the following
> sentence:
>
>  The <varname>%_SHARED</varname> variable and other global state within
>  the language is public data.
>
> Should it be :
>
>  The <varname>%_SHARED</varname> variable and other global variables
>  within the language are public data.
>
> ?

"State" is a more general term, which would include any information
that is globally accessible from within the interpreter, not just
what's stored in variables.  Off the top of my head, I'm not sure if
there is anything like that, but I wouldn't bet on there not being
any...

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Re: Typo in plperl doc ?

From
"Jehan-Guillaume (ioguix) de Rorthais"
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On 14/06/2010 14:08, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Jehan-Guillaume (ioguix) de Rorthais
> <ioguix@free.fr> wrote:
>> While translating the plperl page from the manual, I found the following
>> sentence:
>>
>>  The <varname>%_SHARED</varname> variable and other global state within
>>  the language is public data.
>>
>> Should it be :
>>
>>  The <varname>%_SHARED</varname> variable and other global variables
>>  within the language are public data.
>>
>> ?
> 
> "State" is a more general term, which would include any information
> that is globally accessible from within the interpreter, not just
> what's stored in variables.  Off the top of my head, I'm not sure if
> there is anything like that, but I wouldn't bet on there not being
> any...

Ok, so shouldn't it be

"The <varname>%_SHARED</varname> variable and other global state(s?)
within the language *are* public data"

?
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Re: Typo in plperl doc ?

From
Robert Haas
Date:
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Jehan-Guillaume (ioguix) de Rorthais
<ioguix@free.fr> wrote:
> On 14/06/2010 14:08, Robert Haas wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Jehan-Guillaume (ioguix) de Rorthais
>> <ioguix@free.fr> wrote:
>>> While translating the plperl page from the manual, I found the following
>>> sentence:
>>>
>>>  The <varname>%_SHARED</varname> variable and other global state within
>>>  the language is public data.
>>>
>>> Should it be :
>>>
>>>  The <varname>%_SHARED</varname> variable and other global variables
>>>  within the language are public data.
>>>
>>> ?
>>
>> "State" is a more general term, which would include any information
>> that is globally accessible from within the interpreter, not just
>> what's stored in variables.  Off the top of my head, I'm not sure if
>> there is anything like that, but I wouldn't bet on there not being
>> any...
>
> Ok, so shouldn't it be
>
> "The <varname>%_SHARED</varname> variable and other global state(s?)
> within the language *are* public data"
>
> ?

It seems correct to me as-is, but I just work here.

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Robert Haas
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Re: Typo in plperl doc ?

From
"Greg Sabino Mullane"
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...
> what's stored in variables.  Off the top of my head, I'm not sure if
> there is anything like that, but I wouldn't bet on there not being
> any...

I'm with Robert: I don't see much of a problem here. I might even 
suggest removing the references to non %_SHARED globals entirely. If 
there is something else that is implicitly shared, I'd like to know 
what it is. Tim B? Andrew D?

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Re: Typo in plperl doc ?

From
Andrew Dunstan
Date:

Robert Haas wrote:
>> Ok, so shouldn't it be
>>
>> "The <varname>%_SHARED</varname> variable and other global state(s?)
>> within the language *are* public data"
>>
>> ?
>>     
>
> It seems correct to me as-is, but I just work here.
>   

Umm, you don't say "Joe and Mary is people." (Or I hope you don't.) So 
"are" looks correct here to me. If the subject of the verb is plural 
then the verb should be in the plural form.

cheers

andrew


Re: Typo in plperl doc ?

From
Robert Haas
Date:
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net> wrote:
> Robert Haas wrote:
>>> Ok, so shouldn't it be
>>>
>>> "The <varname>%_SHARED</varname> variable and other global state(s?)
>>> within the language *are* public data"
>>>
>>> ?
>> It seems correct to me as-is, but I just work here.
>
> Umm, you don't say "Joe and Mary is people." (Or I hope you don't.) So "are"
> looks correct here to me. If the subject of the verb is plural then the verb
> should be in the plural form.

Yeah, you might be right.  I won't attempt to explain why I thought
this case might be different from that one...

-- 
Robert Haas
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The Enterprise Postgres Company


Re: Typo in plperl doc ?

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Robert Haas wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net> wrote:
> > Robert Haas wrote:
> >>> Ok, so shouldn't it be
> >>>
> >>> "The <varname>%_SHARED</varname> variable and other global state(s?)
> >>> within the language *are* public data"
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >> It seems correct to me as-is, but I just work here.
> >
> > Umm, you don't say "Joe and Mary is people." (Or I hope you don't.) So "are"
> > looks correct here to me. If the subject of the verb is plural then the verb
> > should be in the plural form.
>
> Yeah, you might be right.  I won't attempt to explain why I thought
> this case might be different from that one...

Agreed, attached patch applied.

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    <para>
      The <varname>%_SHARED</varname> variable and other global state within
!     the language is public data, available to all PL/Perl functions within a
      session. Use with care, especially in situations that involve use of
      multiple roles or <literal>SECURITY DEFINER</> functions.
    </para>
--- 835,841 ----

    <para>
      The <varname>%_SHARED</varname> variable and other global state within
!     the language are public data, available to all PL/Perl functions within a
      session. Use with care, especially in situations that involve use of
      multiple roles or <literal>SECURITY DEFINER</> functions.
    </para>