Thread: TRUNCATE TABLE with IDENTITY
SQL200n specifies a new qualifier on a TRUNCATE command TRUNCATE TABLE foo[ CONTINUE IDENTITY | RESTART IDENTITY ] CONTINUE IDENTITY is the default and does nothing, like now. RESTART IDENTITY will reset the SERIAL sequences back to the original start value. Seems like a % project for the TODO list -- Simon Riggs 2ndQuadrant http://www.2ndQuadrant.com PostgreSQL UK 2008 Conference: http://www.postgresql.org.uk
Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> writes: > SQL200n specifies a new qualifier on a TRUNCATE command > TRUNCATE TABLE foo > [ CONTINUE IDENTITY | RESTART IDENTITY ] > CONTINUE IDENTITY is the default and does nothing, like now. > RESTART IDENTITY will reset the SERIAL sequences back to the original > start value. > Seems like a % project for the TODO list Seems like copying syntax from a *draft* standard is a bit premature, especially when the amount of functionality added is nil. regards, tom lane
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 11:48 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> writes: > > SQL200n specifies a new qualifier on a TRUNCATE command > > TRUNCATE TABLE foo > > [ CONTINUE IDENTITY | RESTART IDENTITY ] > > > CONTINUE IDENTITY is the default and does nothing, like now. > > > RESTART IDENTITY will reset the SERIAL sequences back to the original > > start value. > > > Seems like a % project for the TODO list > > Seems like copying syntax from a *draft* standard is a bit premature, > especially when the amount of functionality added is nil. It's at the final yes-or-no vote stage. Seems unlikely to be "no" to me, and it would be good to be seen to be proactive on standards support. The added functionality in this case isn't nil. -- Simon Riggs 2ndQuadrant http://www.2ndQuadrant.com PostgreSQL UK 2008 Conference: http://www.postgresql.org.uk
Simon Riggs wrote: > RESTART IDENTITY will reset the SERIAL sequences back to the original > start value. > Assuming this feature were to be added.... In cases where the same sequence has been used across multiple tables, what will be the appropriate response when a user attempts to TRUNCATE one of those tables with RESTART IDENTITY? Cheers, Steve
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 09:08 -0700, Steve Crawford wrote: > Simon Riggs wrote: > > RESTART IDENTITY will reset the SERIAL sequences back to the original > > start value. > > > Assuming this feature were to be added.... > > In cases where the same sequence has been used across multiple tables, > what will be the appropriate response when a user attempts to TRUNCATE > one of those tables with RESTART IDENTITY? Well, I'm suggesting it as a TODO item, based on the standard. It would be for whoever took this up to unravel that. Since that's a weak answer, I'd say it should only reset sequences that have been placed there automatically through the use of SERIAL or BIGSERIAL datatypes. -- Simon Riggs 2ndQuadrant http://www.2ndQuadrant.com PostgreSQL UK 2008 Conference: http://www.postgresql.org.uk
Simon Riggs írta: > On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 09:08 -0700, Steve Crawford wrote: > >> Simon Riggs wrote: >> >>> RESTART IDENTITY will reset the SERIAL sequences back to the original >>> start value. >>> >>> >> Assuming this feature were to be added.... >> >> In cases where the same sequence has been used across multiple tables, >> what will be the appropriate response when a user attempts to TRUNCATE >> one of those tables with RESTART IDENTITY? >> > > Well, I'm suggesting it as a TODO item, based on the standard. It would > be for whoever took this up to unravel that. > > Since that's a weak answer, I'd say it should only reset sequences that > have been placed there automatically through the use of SERIAL or > BIGSERIAL datatypes. > All of them? PostgreSQL allow multiple SERIALs to be present, the standard allows only one IDENTITY column in a table. And what about this case below? CREATE TABLE t1 (id1 serial, ...); ALTER SEQUENCE seq_t1_id1 RESTART WITH 5432 CYCLE; or the equivalent CREATE SEQUENCE seq_t1_id1 START WITH 5432 CYCLE; CREATE TABLE t1 (id1 serial, ...); ALTER SEQUENCE seq_t1_id1 OWNED BY t1.id1; PostgreSQL doesn't keep the START WITH information. But it should to perform a "restart" on the sequence, using the minval in this case wouldn't be correct. -- ---------------------------------- Zoltán Böszörményi Cybertec Schönig & Schönig GmbH http://www.postgresql.at/
Zoltan Boszormenyi írta: > Simon Riggs írta: >> On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 09:08 -0700, Steve Crawford wrote: >> >>> Simon Riggs wrote: >>> >>>> RESTART IDENTITY will reset the SERIAL sequences back to the original >>>> start value. >>>> >>> Assuming this feature were to be added.... >>> >>> In cases where the same sequence has been used across multiple >>> tables, what will be the appropriate response when a user attempts >>> to TRUNCATE one of those tables with RESTART IDENTITY? >>> >> >> Well, I'm suggesting it as a TODO item, based on the standard. It would >> be for whoever took this up to unravel that. >> >> Since that's a weak answer, I'd say it should only reset sequences that >> have been placed there automatically through the use of SERIAL or >> BIGSERIAL datatypes. >> > > All of them? PostgreSQL allow multiple SERIALs to be present, > the standard allows only one IDENTITY column in a table. > And what about this case below? > > CREATE TABLE t1 (id1 serial, ...); > ALTER SEQUENCE seq_t1_id1 RESTART WITH 5432 CYCLE; > > or the equivalent > > CREATE SEQUENCE seq_t1_id1 START WITH 5432 CYCLE; > CREATE TABLE t1 (id1 serial, ...); of course CREATE TABLE t1 (id1 integer, ...); > ALTER SEQUENCE seq_t1_id1 OWNED BY t1.id1; > > PostgreSQL doesn't keep the START WITH information. > But it should to perform a "restart" on the sequence, > using the minval in this case wouldn't be correct. > -- ---------------------------------- Zoltán Böszörményi Cybertec Schönig & Schönig GmbH http://www.postgresql.at/
Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: > All of them? PostgreSQL allow multiple SERIALs to be present, > the standard allows only one IDENTITY column in a table. > And what about this case below? > > CREATE TABLE t1 (id1 serial, ...); > ALTER SEQUENCE seq_t1_id1 RESTART WITH 5432 CYCLE; > > or the equivalent > > CREATE SEQUENCE seq_t1_id1 START WITH 5432 CYCLE; > CREATE TABLE t1 (id1 serial, ...); > ALTER SEQUENCE seq_t1_id1 OWNED BY t1.id1; > > PostgreSQL doesn't keep the START WITH information. > But it should to perform a "restart" on the sequence, > using the minval in this case wouldn't be correct. I do think we need to wait for the standard to be accepted before adding them to the TODO list as standard-compliant additions, especially because no one is asking for the syntax yet. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://postgres.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
"Simon Riggs" <simon@2ndquadrant.com> writes: > SQL200n specifies a new qualifier on a TRUNCATE command > > TRUNCATE TABLE foo > [ CONTINUE IDENTITY | RESTART IDENTITY ] > > CONTINUE IDENTITY is the default and does nothing, like now. > > RESTART IDENTITY will reset the SERIAL sequences back to the original > start value. > > Seems like a % project for the TODO list I think we need SQL standard IDENTITY columns before we can consider adding SQL standard CONTINUE IDENTITY or RESTART IDENTITY clauses. The reason the last attempt to add them petered out was precisely because they *don't* exactly line up with the semantics of sequences so I don't imagine attempting to shoehorn sequences into these clauses is likely to pan out. -- Gregory Stark EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com Ask me about EnterpriseDB's RemoteDBA services!
On Mar 25, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: > All of them? PostgreSQL allow multiple SERIALs to be present, > the standard allows only one IDENTITY column in a table. > And what about this case below? > > CREATE TABLE t1 (id1 serial, ...); > ALTER SEQUENCE seq_t1_id1 RESTART WITH 5432 CYCLE; > > or the equivalent > > CREATE SEQUENCE seq_t1_id1 START WITH 5432 CYCLE; > CREATE TABLE t1 (id1 serial, ...); > ALTER SEQUENCE seq_t1_id1 OWNED BY t1.id1; > > PostgreSQL doesn't keep the START WITH information. > But it should to perform a "restart" on the sequence, > using the minval in this case wouldn't be correct. I think you misunderstand what ALTER SEQUENCE RESTART does; it only changes the current value of the sequence. -- Decibel!, aka Jim C. Nasby, Database Architect decibel@decibel.org Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828
Decibel! írta: > On Mar 25, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: >> All of them? PostgreSQL allow multiple SERIALs to be present, >> the standard allows only one IDENTITY column in a table. >> And what about this case below? >> >> CREATE TABLE t1 (id1 serial, ...); >> ALTER SEQUENCE seq_t1_id1 RESTART WITH 5432 CYCLE; >> >> or the equivalent >> >> CREATE SEQUENCE seq_t1_id1 START WITH 5432 CYCLE; >> CREATE TABLE t1 (id1 serial, ...); >> ALTER SEQUENCE seq_t1_id1 OWNED BY t1.id1; >> >> PostgreSQL doesn't keep the START WITH information. >> But it should to perform a "restart" on the sequence, >> using the minval in this case wouldn't be correct. > > > I think you misunderstand what ALTER SEQUENCE RESTART does; it only > changes the current value of the sequence. I didn't misunderstood, I know that. I quoted both because (currently) CREATE SEQUENCE ... START WITH does the same. zozo=> create sequence seq1 start with 327; CREATE SEQUENCE zozo=> select * from seq1;sequence_name | last_value | increment_by | max_value | min_value | cache_value | log_cnt | is_cycled | is_called ---------------+------------+--------------+---------------------+-----------+-------------+---------+-----------+-----------seq1 | 327 | 1 | 9223372036854775807 | 1 | 1 | 1 | f | f (1 row) Note the difference between "min_value" and "last_value". Using the standard syntax of CREATE TABLE ( id integer IDENTITY GENERATED ALWAYS AS (START WITH 327), ... ); and assuming you use the existing sequence infrastructure there's a problem with TRUNCATE ... RESTART IDENTITY; Where is the info in the sequence to provide restarting with the _original_ start value? -- ---------------------------------- Zoltán Böszörményi Cybertec Schönig & Schönig GmbH http://www.postgresql.at/
On Apr 3, 2008, at 12:52 AM, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: > Where is the info in the sequence to provide restarting with > the _original_ start value? There isn't any. If you want the sequence to start at some magic value, adjust the minimum value. -- Decibel!, aka Jim C. Nasby, Database Architect decibel@decibel.org Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828
Decibel! írta: > On Apr 3, 2008, at 12:52 AM, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: >> Where is the info in the sequence to provide restarting with >> the _original_ start value? > > There isn't any. If you want the sequence to start at some magic > value, adjust the minimum value. There's the START WITH option for IDENTITY columns and this below is paragraph 8 under General rules of 14.10 <truncate table statement> in 6WD2_02_Foundation_2007-12.pdf (page 902): 8) If RESTART IDENTITY is specified and the table descriptor of T includes a column descriptor IDCD of an identity column, then: a) Let CN be the column name included in IDCD and let SVbe the start value included in IDCD. b) The following <alter table statement> is effectively executed without further Access Rule checking: ALTER TABLE TN ALTER COLUMN CN RESTART WITH SV This says that the original start value is used, not the minimum value. IDENTITY has the same options as CREATE SEQUENCE. In fact the "identity column specification" links to "11.63 <sequence generator definition>" when it comes to IDENTITY sequence options. And surprise, surprise, "11.64 <alter sequence generator statement>" now defines ALTER SEQUENCE sn RESTART [WITH newvalue] where omitting the "WITH newval" part also uses the original start value. Best regards, Zoltán Böszörményi -- ---------------------------------- Zoltán Böszörményi Cybertec Schönig & Schönig GmbH http://www.postgresql.at/
Zoltan Boszormenyi írta: > Decibel! írta: >> On Apr 3, 2008, at 12:52 AM, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: >>> Where is the info in the sequence to provide restarting with >>> the _original_ start value? >> >> There isn't any. If you want the sequence to start at some magic >> value, adjust the minimum value. > > There's the START WITH option for IDENTITY columns and this below > is paragraph 8 under General rules of 14.10 <truncate table statement> > in 6WD2_02_Foundation_2007-12.pdf (page 902): > > 8) If RESTART IDENTITY is specified and the table descriptor of T > includes a column descriptor IDCD of > an identity column, then: > a) Let CN be the column name included in IDCD and let SV be the > start value included in IDCD. > b) The following <alter table statement> is effectively executed > without further Access Rule checking: > ALTER TABLE TN ALTER COLUMN CN RESTART WITH SV > > This says that the original start value is used, not the minimum value. > IDENTITY has the same options as CREATE SEQUENCE. In fact the > "identity column specification" links to "11.63 <sequence generator > definition>" > when it comes to IDENTITY sequence options. And surprise, surprise, > "11.64 <alter sequence generator statement>" now defines > ALTER SEQUENCE sn RESTART [WITH newvalue] > where omitting the "WITH newval" part also uses the original start value. > > Best regards, > Zoltán Böszörményi Attached patch implements the extension found in the current SQL200n draft, implementing stored start value and supporting ALTER SEQUENCE seq RESTART; Some error check are also added to prohibit CREATE SEQUENCE ... RESTART ... and ALTER SEQUENCE ... START ... Best regards, Zoltán Böszörményi -- ---------------------------------- Zoltán Böszörményi Cybertec Schönig & Schönig GmbH http://www.postgresql.at/ diff -dcrpN pgsql.orig/src/backend/commands/sequence.c pgsql/src/backend/commands/sequence.c *** pgsql.orig/src/backend/commands/sequence.c 2008-01-01 20:45:49.000000000 +0100 --- pgsql/src/backend/commands/sequence.c 2008-04-08 10:51:27.000000000 +0200 *************** static Relation open_share_lock(SeqTable *** 88,94 **** static void init_sequence(Oid relid, SeqTable *p_elm, Relation *p_rel); static Form_pg_sequence read_info(SeqTable elm, Relation rel, Buffer *buf); static void init_params(List *options, bool isInit, ! Form_pg_sequence new, List **owned_by); static void do_setval(Oid relid, int64 next, bool iscalled); static void process_owned_by(Relation seqrel, List *owned_by); --- 88,94 ---- static void init_sequence(Oid relid, SeqTable *p_elm, Relation *p_rel); static Form_pg_sequence read_info(SeqTable elm, Relation rel, Buffer *buf); static void init_params(List *options, bool isInit, ! Form_pg_sequence new, Form_pg_sequence old, List **owned_by); static void do_setval(Oid relid, int64 next, bool iscalled); static void process_owned_by(Relation seqrel, List *owned_by); *************** DefineSequence(CreateSeqStmt *seq) *** 116,122 **** NameData name; /* Check and set all option values */ ! init_params(seq->options, true, &new, &owned_by); /* * Create relation (and fill *null & *value) --- 116,122 ---- NameData name; /* Check and set all option values */ ! init_params(seq->options, true, &new, NULL, &owned_by); /* * Create relation (and fill *null & *value) *************** DefineSequence(CreateSeqStmt *seq) *** 143,148 **** --- 143,153 ---- namestrcpy(&name, seq->sequence->relname); value[i - 1] = NameGetDatum(&name); break; + case SEQ_COL_STARTVAL: + coldef->typename = makeTypeNameFromOid(INT8OID, -1); + coldef->colname = "start_value"; + value[i - 1] = Int64GetDatumFast(new.start_value); + break; case SEQ_COL_LASTVAL: coldef->typename = makeTypeNameFromOid(INT8OID, -1); coldef->colname = "last_value"; *************** AlterSequence(AlterSeqStmt *stmt) *** 336,342 **** memcpy(&new, seq, sizeof(FormData_pg_sequence)); /* Check and set new values */ ! init_params(stmt->options, false, &new, &owned_by); /* Clear local cache so that we don't think we have cached numbers */ /* Note that we do not change the currval() state */ --- 341,347 ---- memcpy(&new, seq, sizeof(FormData_pg_sequence)); /* Check and set new values */ ! init_params(stmt->options, false, &new, seq, &owned_by); /* Clear local cache so that we don't think we have cached numbers */ /* Note that we do not change the currval() state */ *************** read_info(SeqTable elm, Relation rel, Bu *** 967,973 **** */ static void init_params(List *options, bool isInit, ! Form_pg_sequence new, List **owned_by) { DefElem *last_value = NULL; DefElem *increment_by = NULL; --- 972,978 ---- */ static void init_params(List *options, bool isInit, ! Form_pg_sequence new, Form_pg_sequence old, List **owned_by) { DefElem *last_value = NULL; DefElem *increment_by = NULL; *************** init_params(List *options, bool isInit, *** 995,1003 **** /* * start is for a new sequence restart is for alter */ ! else if (strcmp(defel->defname, "start") == 0 || ! strcmp(defel->defname, "restart") == 0) { if (last_value) ereport(ERROR, (errcode(ERRCODE_SYNTAX_ERROR), --- 1000,1023 ---- /* * start is for a new sequence restart is for alter */ ! else if (strcmp(defel->defname, "start") == 0) { + if (!isInit) + ereport(ERROR, + (errcode(ERRCODE_SYNTAX_ERROR), + errmsg("use ALTER SEQUENCE ... RESTART ..."))); + if (last_value) + ereport(ERROR, + (errcode(ERRCODE_SYNTAX_ERROR), + errmsg("conflicting or redundant options"))); + last_value = defel; + } + else if (strcmp(defel->defname, "restart") == 0) + { + if (isInit) + ereport(ERROR, + (errcode(ERRCODE_SYNTAX_ERROR), + errmsg("use CREATE SEQUENCE ... START ..."))); if (last_value) ereport(ERROR, (errcode(ERRCODE_SYNTAX_ERROR), *************** init_params(List *options, bool isInit, *** 1109,1124 **** /* START WITH */ if (last_value != NULL) { ! new->last_value = defGetInt64(last_value); new->is_called = false; new->log_cnt = 1; } else if (isInit) { if (new->increment_by > 0) ! new->last_value = new->min_value; /* ascending seq */ else ! new->last_value = new->max_value; /* descending seq */ new->is_called = false; new->log_cnt = 1; } --- 1129,1149 ---- /* START WITH */ if (last_value != NULL) { ! if (last_value->arg != NULL) ! new->last_value = defGetInt64(last_value); ! else ! new->last_value = old->start_value; ! if (isInit) ! new->start_value = new->last_value; new->is_called = false; new->log_cnt = 1; } else if (isInit) { if (new->increment_by > 0) ! new->start_value = new->last_value = new->min_value; /* ascending seq */ else ! new->start_value = new->last_value = new->max_value; /* descending seq */ new->is_called = false; new->log_cnt = 1; } diff -dcrpN pgsql.orig/src/backend/parser/gram.y pgsql/src/backend/parser/gram.y *** pgsql.orig/src/backend/parser/gram.y 2008-03-30 13:29:47.000000000 +0200 --- pgsql/src/backend/parser/gram.y 2008-04-08 10:32:25.000000000 +0200 *************** OptSeqElem: CACHE NumericOnly *** 2486,2491 **** --- 2486,2495 ---- { $$ = makeDefElem("start", (Node *)$3); } + | RESTART + { + $$ = makeDefElem("restart", NULL); + } | RESTART opt_with NumericOnly { $$ = makeDefElem("restart", (Node *)$3); diff -dcrpN pgsql.orig/src/include/commands/sequence.h pgsql/src/include/commands/sequence.h *** pgsql.orig/src/include/commands/sequence.h 2008-03-30 13:29:50.000000000 +0200 --- pgsql/src/include/commands/sequence.h 2008-04-08 10:22:28.000000000 +0200 *************** typedef struct FormData_pg_sequence *** 29,34 **** --- 29,35 ---- { NameData sequence_name; #ifndef INT64_IS_BUSTED + int64 start_value; int64 last_value; int64 increment_by; int64 max_value; *************** typedef struct FormData_pg_sequence *** 36,53 **** int64 cache_value; int64 log_cnt; #else ! int32 last_value; int32 pad1; ! int32 increment_by; int32 pad2; ! int32 max_value; int32 pad3; ! int32 min_value; int32 pad4; ! int32 cache_value; int32 pad5; ! int32 log_cnt; int32 pad6; #endif bool is_cycled; bool is_called; --- 37,56 ---- int64 cache_value; int64 log_cnt; #else ! int32 start_value; int32 pad1; ! int32 last_value; int32 pad2; ! int32 increment_by; int32 pad3; ! int32 max_value; int32 pad4; ! int32 min_value; int32 pad5; ! int32 cache_value; int32 pad6; + int32 log_cnt; + int32 pad7; #endif bool is_cycled; bool is_called; *************** typedef FormData_pg_sequence *Form_pg_se *** 60,73 **** */ #define SEQ_COL_NAME 1 ! #define SEQ_COL_LASTVAL 2 ! #define SEQ_COL_INCBY 3 ! #define SEQ_COL_MAXVALUE 4 ! #define SEQ_COL_MINVALUE 5 ! #define SEQ_COL_CACHE 6 ! #define SEQ_COL_LOG 7 ! #define SEQ_COL_CYCLE 8 ! #define SEQ_COL_CALLED 9 #define SEQ_COL_FIRSTCOL SEQ_COL_NAME #define SEQ_COL_LASTCOL SEQ_COL_CALLED --- 63,77 ---- */ #define SEQ_COL_NAME 1 ! #define SEQ_COL_STARTVAL 2 ! #define SEQ_COL_LASTVAL 3 ! #define SEQ_COL_INCBY 4 ! #define SEQ_COL_MAXVALUE 5 ! #define SEQ_COL_MINVALUE 6 ! #define SEQ_COL_CACHE 7 ! #define SEQ_COL_LOG 8 ! #define SEQ_COL_CYCLE 9 ! #define SEQ_COL_CALLED 10 #define SEQ_COL_FIRSTCOL SEQ_COL_NAME #define SEQ_COL_LASTCOL SEQ_COL_CALLED diff -dcrpN pgsql.orig/src/test/regress/expected/sequence.out pgsql/src/test/regress/expected/sequence.out *** pgsql.orig/src/test/regress/expected/sequence.out 2006-08-21 02:57:26.000000000 +0200 --- pgsql/src/test/regress/expected/sequence.out 2008-04-08 10:58:18.000000000 +0200 *************** DROP SEQUENCE sequence_test; *** 99,107 **** CREATE SEQUENCE foo_seq; ALTER TABLE foo_seq RENAME TO foo_seq_new; SELECT * FROM foo_seq_new; ! sequence_name | last_value | increment_by | max_value | min_value | cache_value | log_cnt | is_cycled | is_called ! ---------------+------------+--------------+---------------------+-----------+-------------+---------+-----------+----------- ! foo_seq | 1 | 1 | 9223372036854775807 | 1 | 1 | 1 | f | f (1 row) DROP SEQUENCE foo_seq_new; --- 99,107 ---- CREATE SEQUENCE foo_seq; ALTER TABLE foo_seq RENAME TO foo_seq_new; SELECT * FROM foo_seq_new; ! sequence_name | start_value | last_value | increment_by | max_value | min_value | cache_value | log_cnt | is_cycled| is_called ! ---------------+-------------+------------+--------------+---------------------+-----------+-------------+---------+-----------+----------- ! foo_seq | 1 | 1 | 1 | 9223372036854775807 | 1 | 1 | 1 | f | f (1 row) DROP SEQUENCE foo_seq_new; *************** SELECT nextval('sequence_test2'); *** 175,180 **** --- 175,212 ---- 5 (1 row) + ALTER SEQUENCE sequence_test2 RESTART + INCREMENT BY 4 MAXVALUE 36 MINVALUE 5 CYCLE; + SELECT nextval('sequence_test2'); + nextval + --------- + 32 + (1 row) + + SELECT nextval('sequence_test2'); + nextval + --------- + 36 + (1 row) + + SELECT nextval('sequence_test2'); + nextval + --------- + 5 + (1 row) + + SELECT nextval('sequence_test2'); + nextval + --------- + 9 + (1 row) + + SELECT nextval('sequence_test2'); + nextval + --------- + 13 + (1 row) + -- Test comments COMMENT ON SEQUENCE asdf IS 'won''t work'; ERROR: relation "asdf" does not exist diff -dcrpN pgsql.orig/src/test/regress/sql/sequence.sql pgsql/src/test/regress/sql/sequence.sql *** pgsql.orig/src/test/regress/sql/sequence.sql 2005-10-03 01:50:16.000000000 +0200 --- pgsql/src/test/regress/sql/sequence.sql 2008-04-08 10:56:55.000000000 +0200 *************** SELECT nextval('sequence_test2'); *** 74,79 **** --- 74,88 ---- SELECT nextval('sequence_test2'); SELECT nextval('sequence_test2'); + ALTER SEQUENCE sequence_test2 RESTART + INCREMENT BY 4 MAXVALUE 36 MINVALUE 5 CYCLE; + + SELECT nextval('sequence_test2'); + SELECT nextval('sequence_test2'); + SELECT nextval('sequence_test2'); + SELECT nextval('sequence_test2'); + SELECT nextval('sequence_test2'); + -- Test comments COMMENT ON SEQUENCE asdf IS 'won''t work'; COMMENT ON SEQUENCE sequence_test2 IS 'will work';
Zoltan Boszormenyi írta: > Zoltan Boszormenyi írta: >> Decibel! írta: >>> On Apr 3, 2008, at 12:52 AM, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: >>>> Where is the info in the sequence to provide restarting with >>>> the _original_ start value? >>> >>> There isn't any. If you want the sequence to start at some magic >>> value, adjust the minimum value. >> >> There's the START WITH option for IDENTITY columns and this below >> is paragraph 8 under General rules of 14.10 <truncate table statement> >> in 6WD2_02_Foundation_2007-12.pdf (page 902): >> >> 8) If RESTART IDENTITY is specified and the table descriptor of T >> includes a column descriptor IDCD of >> an identity column, then: >> a) Let CN be the column name included in IDCD and let SV be the >> start value included in IDCD. >> b) The following <alter table statement> is effectively executed >> without further Access Rule checking: >> ALTER TABLE TN ALTER COLUMN CN RESTART WITH SV >> >> This says that the original start value is used, not the minimum value. >> IDENTITY has the same options as CREATE SEQUENCE. In fact the >> "identity column specification" links to "11.63 <sequence generator >> definition>" >> when it comes to IDENTITY sequence options. And surprise, surprise, >> "11.64 <alter sequence generator statement>" now defines >> ALTER SEQUENCE sn RESTART [WITH newvalue] >> where omitting the "WITH newval" part also uses the original start >> value. >> >> Best regards, >> Zoltán Böszörményi > > Attached patch implements the extension found in the current SQL200n > draft, > implementing stored start value and supporting ALTER SEQUENCE seq > RESTART; > Some error check are also added to prohibit CREATE SEQUENCE ... > RESTART ... > and ALTER SEQUENCE ... START ... > > Best regards, > Zoltán Böszörményi Updated patch implements TRUNCATE ... RESTART IDENTITY which restarts all owned sequences for the truncated table(s). Regression tests updated, documentation added. pg_dump was also extended to output original[1] START value for creating SEQUENCEs. [1] For 8.3 and below I could only guesstimate it as MINVALUE for ascending and MAXVALUE for descending sequences. Best regards, Zoltán Böszörményi -- ---------------------------------- Zoltán Böszörményi Cybertec Schönig & Schönig GmbH http://www.postgresql.at/
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Hi, Zoltan Boszormenyi írta: > Updated patch implements TRUNCATE ... RESTART IDENTITY > which restarts all owned sequences for the truncated table(s). > Regression tests updated, documentation added. pg_dump was > also extended to output original[1] START value for creating SEQUENCEs. > > [1] For 8.3 and below I could only guesstimate it as MINVALUE for > ascending > and MAXVALUE for descending sequences. > > Best regards, > Zoltán Böszörményi I just saw this on the CommitFest:May page: "alvherre says: I'm not sure if this is the same patch in the previous entry, or a different feature" I wanted to clarify, the second patch contains two features. 1. stored start value for sequences, ALTER SEQUENCE ... RESTART; 2. (builds on 1.) TRUNCATE ... RESTART IDENTITY; Best regards, Zoltán Böszörményi -- ---------------------------------- Zoltán Böszörményi Cybertec Schönig & Schönig GmbH http://www.postgresql.at/
Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: > I just saw this on the CommitFest:May page: > > "alvherre says: I'm not sure if this is the same patch in the previous > entry, or a different feature" > > I wanted to clarify, the second patch contains two features. > 1. stored start value for sequences, ALTER SEQUENCE ... RESTART; > 2. (builds on 1.) TRUNCATE ... RESTART IDENTITY; Does this mean that the first patch can be removed? Please do so in that case, and remove my comment too. And perhaps the description of the patch will need a little fixing, too. -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support
Zoltan Boszormenyi <zb@cybertec.at> writes: >> Attached patch implements the extension found in the current SQL200n draft, >> implementing stored start value and supporting ALTER SEQUENCE seq RESTART; > Updated patch implements TRUNCATE ... RESTART IDENTITY > which restarts all owned sequences for the truncated table(s). Applied with corrections. Most notably, since ALTER SEQUENCE RESTART is nontransactional like most other ALTER SEQUENCE operations, I rearranged things to try to ensure that foreseeable failures like deadlock and lack of permissions would be detected before TRUNCATE starts to issue any RESTART commands. One interesting point here is that the patch as submitted allowed ALTER SEQUENCE MINVALUE/MAXVALUE to be used to set a sequence range that the original START value was outside of. This would result in a failure at ALTER SEQUENCE RESTART. Since, as stated above, we really don't want that happening during TRUNCATE, I adjusted the patch to make such an ALTER SEQUENCE fail. This is at least potentially an incompatible change: command sequences that used to be legal could now fail. I doubt it's very likely to bite anyone in practice, though. regards, tom lane
I wrote: > One interesting point here is that the patch as submitted allowed > ALTER SEQUENCE MINVALUE/MAXVALUE to be used to set a sequence range > that the original START value was outside of. This would result in > a failure at ALTER SEQUENCE RESTART. Since, as stated above, we > really don't want that happening during TRUNCATE, I adjusted the > patch to make such an ALTER SEQUENCE fail. This is at least potentially > an incompatible change: command sequences that used to be legal could > now fail. I doubt it's very likely to bite anyone in practice, though. It occurs to me that we could defineALTER SEQUENCE s START WITH x (which is syntactically legal, but rejected by sequence.c at the moment) as updating the stored start_value and thus affecting what future ALTER SEQUENCE RESTART commands will do. Right now there is simply no way to change start_value after sequence creation, which is pretty strange considering we let you change every other sequence parameter. It would also provide a way out for anyone who does want to change the minval/maxval as sketched above. I think this is about a ten-line change as far as the code goes... any objections? regards, tom lane
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 19:41 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Applied with corrections. Most notably, since ALTER SEQUENCE RESTART > is nontransactional like most other ALTER SEQUENCE operations, I > rearranged things to try to ensure that foreseeable failures like > deadlock and lack of permissions would be detected before TRUNCATE > starts to issue any RESTART commands. Ugh. The fact that the RESTART IDENTITY part of TRUNCATE is non-transactional is a pretty unsightly wort. I would also quarrel with your addition to the docs that suggests this is only an issue "in practice" if TRUNCATE RESTART IDENTITY is used in a transaction block: unpredictable failures (such as OOM or query cancellation) can certainly occur in practice, and would be very disruptive (e.g. if the sequence values are stored into a column with a UNIQUE constraint, it would break all inserting transactions until the DBA intervenes). I wonder if it would be possible to make the sequence operations performed by TRUNCATE transactional: while the TRUNCATE remains uncommitted, it should be okay to block concurrent access to the sequence. -Neil
Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> writes: > Ugh. The fact that the RESTART IDENTITY part of TRUNCATE is > non-transactional is a pretty unsightly wort. Actually, I agree. Shall we just revert that feature? The ALTER SEQUENCE part of this patch is clean and useful, but I'm less than enamored of the TRUNCATE part. regards, tom lane
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 21:50 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com> writes: > > Ugh. The fact that the RESTART IDENTITY part of TRUNCATE is > > non-transactional is a pretty unsightly wort. > > Actually, I agree. Shall we just revert that feature? The ALTER > SEQUENCE part of this patch is clean and useful, but I'm less than > enamored of the TRUNCATE part. Perhaps, but we should also take into account that TRUNCATE is not and never will be MVCC compliant, so its not something you'd expect to run except as a maintenance action. If we do keep it, I would suggest that we add a WARNING so that the effects are clearly recorded. -- Simon Riggs www.2ndQuadrant.com PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support
Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> writes: > On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 21:50 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> Actually, I agree. Shall we just revert that feature? > Perhaps, but we should also take into account that TRUNCATE is not and > never will be MVCC compliant, so its not something you'd expect to run > except as a maintenance action. Good point. I had a couple of further thoughts this morning: 1. The case Neil is worried about is something like BEGIN; TRUNCATE TABLE foo RESTART IDENTITY; COPY foo FROM ...; COMMIT; If the COPY fails partway through, the old table contents are restored, but the sequences are not. However removing RESTART IDENTITY will not remove the hazard, because there is no difference between this and BEGIN; TRUNCATE TABLE foo; SELECT setval('foo_id', 1); COPY foo FROM ...; COMMIT; other than the latter adding a little extra chance for pilot error in resetting the wrong sequence. So if we revert the patch we haven't accomplished much except to take away an opportunity to point out the risk. I vote for leaving the patch in and rewriting the <warning> to point out this risk. 2. I had first dismissed Neil's idea of transactional sequence updates as impossible, but on second look it could be done. Suppose RESTART IDENTITY does this for each sequence; * obtain AccessExclusiveLock; * assign a new relfilenode; * insert a sequence row with all parameters copied except last_value copies start_value; * hold AccessExclusiveLock till commit. IOW just like truncate-and-reload, but for a sequence. Within the current backend, subsequent operations see the new sequence values. If the transaction rolls back, the old sequence relfilenode is still there and untouched. It's slightly annoying to need to lock out other backends' nextval operations, but for the use-case of TRUNCATE this doesn't seem like it's really much of a problem. I'm not sure if it'd be worth exposing this behavior as a separate user-visible command (CREATE OR REPLACE SEQUENCE, maybe?), but it seems worth doing to make TRUNCATE-and-reload less of a foot gun. So what I think we should do is leave the patch there, revise the warning per Neil's complaint, and add a TODO item to reimplement RESTART IDENTITY transactionally. regards, tom lane
On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 12:04 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > So what I think we should do is leave the patch there, revise the > warning per Neil's complaint, and add a TODO item to reimplement > RESTART IDENTITY transactionally. Sounds good. -- Simon Riggs www.2ndQuadrant.com PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support
Tom Lane wrote: > 2. I had first dismissed Neil's idea of transactional sequence updates > as impossible, but on second look it could be done. Suppose RESTART > IDENTITY does this for each sequence; > > * obtain AccessExclusiveLock; > * assign a new relfilenode; > * insert a sequence row with all parameters copied except > last_value copies start_value; > * hold AccessExclusiveLock till commit. Hmm, this kills the idea of moving sequence data to a single non-transactional catalog :-( > So what I think we should do is leave the patch there, revise the > warning per Neil's complaint, and add a TODO item to reimplement RESTART > IDENTITY transactionally. I think the TODO item did not make it, but the docs do seem updated. -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support
Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> 2. I had first dismissed Neil's idea of transactional sequence updates >> as impossible, but on second look it could be done. Suppose RESTART >> IDENTITY does this for each sequence; >> >> * obtain AccessExclusiveLock; >> * assign a new relfilenode; >> * insert a sequence row with all parameters copied except >> last_value copies start_value; >> * hold AccessExclusiveLock till commit. > Hmm, this kills the idea of moving sequence data to a single > non-transactional catalog :-( Well, there are a number of holes in our ideas of how to do that anyway. But offhand I don't see why we couldn't distinguish regular heap_update from update_in_place on single rows within a catalog. regards, tom lane
Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Tom Lane wrote: > > > 2. I had first dismissed Neil's idea of transactional sequence updates > > as impossible, but on second look it could be done. Suppose RESTART > > IDENTITY does this for each sequence; > > > > * obtain AccessExclusiveLock; > > * assign a new relfilenode; > > * insert a sequence row with all parameters copied except > > last_value copies start_value; > > * hold AccessExclusiveLock till commit. > > Hmm, this kills the idea of moving sequence data to a single > non-transactional catalog :-( > > > So what I think we should do is leave the patch there, revise the > > warning per Neil's complaint, and add a TODO item to reimplement RESTART > > IDENTITY transactionally. > > I think the TODO item did not make it, but the docs do seem updated. Done: * Fix TRUNCATE ... RESTART IDENTITY so its affect on sequences is rolled back on transaction abort -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +