Thread: 8.1 release notes
I have finished working on the release notes for the moment: http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/release.html#RELEASE-8-1 I will update them just before we put out the beta. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001+ If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania19073
Just so this doesn't get lost (and I don't forget): Is the intention that standard_conforming_strings will always be read-only? ISTM it would be very useful if it was used to control the behavior of strings that weren't E quoted while people are transitioning. Or is that too difficult to do? (Unfortunately I couldn't find the answer to this in the hackers archives...) In any case, it would be good if the release notes linked to a page that described the plan for this in more detail. Actually, it would be great if all the items linked to pages that had more detailed info, even if it was just the relevant page in the docs or a thread on the mailling list. If the source sgml is available I can take a stab at this. On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 03:51:35PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have finished working on the release notes for the moment: > > http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/release.html#RELEASE-8-1 > > I will update them just before we put out the beta. > > -- > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 > + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road > + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings > -- Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant jnasby@pervasive.com Pervasive Software http://pervasive.com 512-569-9461
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 03:51:35PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have finished working on the release notes for the moment: > > http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/release.html#RELEASE-8-1 > > I will update them just before we put out the beta. Here's bit clarified pgcrypto summary: - Implemention of OpenPGP symmetric- and public-key encryption. Supported are both RSA and Elgamal public-key algorithms. - Standalone build: include SHA256/384/512 hashes, Fortuna PRNG. - OpenSSL build: support 3DES, use internal AES with OpenSSL < 0.9.7. - Take build parameters (OpenSSL, zlib) from ./configure result. No need to edit Makefile anymore. The mhash note can stay as-is. -- marko
Jim C. Nasby wrote: > Just so this doesn't get lost (and I don't forget): > > Is the intention that standard_conforming_strings will always be > read-only? ISTM it would be very useful if it was used to control the > behavior of strings that weren't E quoted while people are > transitioning. Or is that too difficult to do? I think in 8.2 it will be read/write. > (Unfortunately I couldn't find the answer to this in the hackers > archives...) > > In any case, it would be good if the release notes linked to a page that > described the plan for this in more detail. Actually, it would be great > if all the items linked to pages that had more detailed info, even if it > was just the relevant page in the docs or a thread on the mailling list. > If the source sgml is available I can take a stab at this. You are looking in the release notes at all the information there is, so there is nothing to link to. :-) If you want more, send a patch to release.sgml and I will add it. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001+ If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania19073
Thanks, updated. I suspected there was more than I had listed. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marko Kreen wrote: > On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 03:51:35PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I have finished working on the release notes for the moment: > > > > http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/release.html#RELEASE-8-1 > > > > I will update them just before we put out the beta. > > Here's bit clarified pgcrypto summary: > > - Implemention of OpenPGP symmetric- and public-key encryption. > Supported are both RSA and Elgamal public-key algorithms. > > - Standalone build: include SHA256/384/512 hashes, Fortuna PRNG. > > - OpenSSL build: support 3DES, use internal AES with OpenSSL < 0.9.7. > > - Take build parameters (OpenSSL, zlib) from ./configure result. > No need to edit Makefile anymore. > > The mhash note can stay as-is. > > -- > marko > -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001+ If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania19073
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 05:25:56PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Thanks, updated. I suspected there was more than I had listed. This patch tidies dots and bit more. -- marko
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Thanks, done. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marko Kreen wrote: > On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 05:25:56PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Thanks, updated. I suspected there was more than I had listed. > > This patch tidies dots and bit more. > > -- > marko > [ Attachment, skipping... ] -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001+ If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania19073
"Jim C. Nasby" <jnasby@pervasive.com> writes:
> Is the intention that standard_conforming_strings will always be
> read-only?
For the moment it's read-only false; the long-term goal is that it will
be read-only true. In between we will have a release or three where it
is modifiable to some extent. I personally think it would be a *bad*
idea if it were a mere USERSET variable --- we learned from the
autocommit fiasco that changing fundamental semantics on a whim does
not work. But there will need to be some way to alter it for testing
purposes during the interregnum.
regards, tom lane
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 12:26:21AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > "Jim C. Nasby" <jnasby@pervasive.com> writes: > > Is the intention that standard_conforming_strings will always be > > read-only? > > For the moment it's read-only false; the long-term goal is that it will > be read-only true. In between we will have a release or three where it > is modifiable to some extent. I personally think it would be a *bad* > idea if it were a mere USERSET variable --- we learned from the > autocommit fiasco that changing fundamental semantics on a whim does > not work. But there will need to be some way to alter it for testing > purposes during the interregnum. The 'autocommit fiasco' isn't ringing a bell right now, so I'll take your word for it. :) Bruce, can you add some info about this to http://candle.pha.pa.us/cgi-bin/pgescape ? I intend to link to that when I submit a patch to the release notes that links to more info on the individual items. -- Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant jnasby@pervasive.com Pervasive Software http://pervasive.com 512-569-9461
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 02:01, Jim C. Nasby wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 12:26:21AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > "Jim C. Nasby" <jnasby@pervasive.com> writes: > > > Is the intention that standard_conforming_strings will always be > > > read-only? > > > > For the moment it's read-only false; the long-term goal is that it will > > be read-only true. In between we will have a release or three where it > > is modifiable to some extent. I personally think it would be a *bad* > > idea if it were a mere USERSET variable --- we learned from the > > autocommit fiasco that changing fundamental semantics on a whim does > > not work. But there will need to be some way to alter it for testing > > purposes during the interregnum. > > The 'autocommit fiasco' isn't ringing a bell right now, so I'll take > your word for it. :) > > Bruce, can you add some info about this to > http://candle.pha.pa.us/cgi-bin/pgescape ? I intend to link to that when > I submit a patch to the release notes that links to more info on the > individual items. it seems odd to me to be linking to random pages on the net from the release notes... could that content be folder into the docs themselves and then a pointer to the relevent section of the docs be given instead? -- Robert Treat Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
Robert Treat wrote: > On Wednesday 24 August 2005 02:01, Jim C. Nasby wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 12:26:21AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > > "Jim C. Nasby" <jnasby@pervasive.com> writes: > > > > Is the intention that standard_conforming_strings will always be > > > > read-only? > > > > > > For the moment it's read-only false; the long-term goal is that it will > > > be read-only true. In between we will have a release or three where it > > > is modifiable to some extent. I personally think it would be a *bad* > > > idea if it were a mere USERSET variable --- we learned from the > > > autocommit fiasco that changing fundamental semantics on a whim does > > > not work. But there will need to be some way to alter it for testing > > > purposes during the interregnum. > > > > The 'autocommit fiasco' isn't ringing a bell right now, so I'll take > > your word for it. :) > > > > Bruce, can you add some info about this to > > http://candle.pha.pa.us/cgi-bin/pgescape ? I intend to link to that when > > I submit a patch to the release notes that links to more info on the > > individual items. > > it seems odd to me to be linking to random pages on the net from the release > notes... could that content be folder into the docs themselves and then a > pointer to the relevent section of the docs be given instead? Yes, I am thinking that is best too. I have added this to the release notes: Also, use two single-quotes ('') to embed a literal single-quote in a string, rather than the PostgreSQL-supportedsyntax of backslash single-quote (\'). The former is standards-conforming and does not requirethe use of the E'' string syntax. You can also use the $$ string syntax, which does not treat backslashes specially. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001+ If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania19073