Thread: Re: Do you have any objections on contributing your improvements of the PostgreSQL core back into the product?

I am very, very sure that anything that makes PostgreSQL stronger will
be deeply appreciated by the PostgreSQL team.

To the PG team, see the following:
http://dbgroup.ncsu.edu/
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~rychirko/

Especially:
http://research.csc.ncsu.edu/selftune/

This is a fabulous project with smashing results, already done against
PostgreSQL.

Could someone on the official PostgreSQL team raise their hand, please,
and say: "We are interested in folding in this valuable research study
back into the core of PostgreSQL, thus making it much stronger and more
capable than it is now."


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rada Chirkova [mailto:chirkova@csc.ncsu.edu]
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:55 PM
> To: Rada Chirkova
> Cc: Dann Corbit
> Subject: Re: Do you have any objections on contributing your
improvements
> of the PostgreSQL core back into the product?
>
> Dear Dann Corbit, could you tell me whether you have heard back from
> PostgreSQL committers on whether they like my enhancements of
PostgreSQL.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rada
>
> Rada Chirkova wrote:
>
> > Thanks! I will work over the summer on getting good students to do
> > this. Should I get in touch with some PostgreSQL developers other
than
> > you to coordinate the effort.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Rada
> >
> > Dann Corbit wrote:
> >
> >> I think that a cooperative effort between the core team of
PostgreSQL
> >> developers and your graduate students is definitely the most
logical
> >> approach.
> >>
> >> The PostgreSQL engine has also been updated quite a bit now with
> version
> >> 8, and so certainly, some changes would be needed.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rada Chirkova [mailto:chirkova@csc.ncsu.edu]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 5:53 AM
> >>> To: Dann Corbit; Rada Chirkova
> >>> Subject: Re: Do you have any objections on contributing your
> >>>
> >>
> >> improvements
> >>
> >>
> >>> of the PostgreSQL core back into the product?
> >>>
> >>> Dear Dann Corbit,
> >>>
> >>> thanks for your response. I would be really delighted to
contribute to
> >>> the PostgreSQL core. At the same time, I have doubts about the
quality
> >>> of the implementation by my students. Do you think it would make
sense
> >>> to have good students reimplement the functionalities, perhaps
with
> >>>
> >>
> >> some
> >>
> >>
> >>> guidance from regular PostgreSQL contributors?
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Rada
> >>>
> >>> Dann Corbit wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> My name is Dann Corbit.  I work for a company called CONNX
Solutions
> >>>> Inc. (which is a database company -- we write middleware like
> >>>> ODBC/OLEDB/JDBC/.NET drivers and things of that nature).
> >>>> Here is our web site:
> >>>> http://www.connx.com/
> >>>>
> >>>> We also happen to use PostgreSQL in some of our projects, and I
have
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> had
> >>
> >>
> >>>> some minor involvement in the PostgreSQL projects.  For instance,
the
> >>>> PostgreSQL team used some code we wrote in creating a native
version
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> of
> >>
> >>
> >>>> PostgreSQL 7.1.3 for creating the native windows version of
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> PostgreSQL
> >>
> >>
> >>>> 8.0.
> >>>>
> >>>> I read your paper on the network and downloaded the source code
that
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> you
> >>
> >>
> >>>> created.  It looks like a great enhancement to the PostgreSQL
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> database
> >>
> >>
> >>>> system.  For that reason, I was wondering if you would object to
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> posting
> >>
> >>
> >>>> your changes back into the PostgreSQL 8 core so that the new
> >>>> functionality is available to everyone.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you go and look on the PostgreSQL list server, you will see
that I
> >>>> post there fairly often.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Rada Chirkova [mailto:chirkova@csc.ncsu.edu]
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:10 PM
> >>>>> To: Dann Corbit
> >>>>> Subject: Re: Do you have any objections on contributing your
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> improvements
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> of the PostgreSQL core back into the product?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> could you tell me about yourself - your message was kind of
brief ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rada
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dann Corbit wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> It seems to me that your enhancements are extremely useful.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >

Dann,

> Could someone on the official PostgreSQL team raise their hand, please,
> and say: "We are interested in folding in this valuable research study
> back into the core of PostgreSQL, thus making it much stronger and more
> capable than it is now."

As much as I would love to do just that, you know that's not the way it works.   
All patches ... including mine, Bruce's, Jan's, and even sometimes Tom's, 
have to be evaluated for usefulness, clean code, bugs, etc.   

-- 
--Josh

Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco