Thread: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Increased company involvement

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Increased company involvement

From
"Dave Page"
Date:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc G. Fournier [mailto:scrappy@postgresql.org]
> Sent: 06 May 2005 15:35
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: Marc G. Fournier; Magnus Hagander; Robert Treat; Tom
> Lane; Josh Berkus; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
> Subject: RE: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement
>
> On Fri, 6 May 2005, Dave Page wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Marc G. Fournier [mailto:scrappy@postgresql.org]
> >> Sent: 06 May 2005 01:15
> >> To: Magnus Hagander
> >> Cc: Marc G. Fournier; Dave Page; Robert Treat; Tom Lane; Josh
> >> Berkus; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
> >> Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company
> involvement
> >>
> >> What is being worked on right now is effectively reducing
> >> things down to:
> >>
> >> postgresql-server (including libpq)
> >> postgresql-<insert add on here>
> >
> > So you mean to get an equivalent of postgresql-8.0.2.tar.bz2, I will
> > have to download 30+ tarballs?
>
> Or the WTKS one ... which will exist from day one, but not as
> "integrated"
> as Josh would like us to get to eventually ...

Which will soon bloat to an incredible size as everything under the sun
gets added? A couple of questions though:

- Who/how will the release processes for all these seperate projects be
coordinated?
- How will users be sure that the external projects are of the quality
we expect of PostgreSQL?

Asking as someone who only uses the full tarball and doesn't want the
kitchen sink and half of Gborg as well, please do not get rid of the
current full distribution.

Regards, Dave


Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Increased company involvement

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
On Fri, 6 May 2005, Dave Page wrote:

> - Who/how will the release processes for all these seperate projects be
> coordinated?

Who does now?  As far as I know, PLs or contrib files *aren't* tested by 
the regression tests, so, at best, they are getting 'spotty testing' right 
now when we release ... we know they build, that's it.  And that won't 
change before/after ... Andrew is looking to add PL testing to the build 
farm, something that isn't done now ...

> - How will users be sure that the external projects are of the quality
> we expect of PostgreSQL?

Again, how are they sure now?

If you are referring to my thought to include stuff like JDBC or libpqxx, 
then as I've already stated, it will be their responsibility to work with 
us if they want to be included ... if we are ready to release 8.1, and 
they don't set down a 8.1 tag that we can 'pull from', they won't be 
included in that release ... we're not going to chase them down ...

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Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Increased company involvement

From
Andrew Dunstan
Date:

Marc G. Fournier wrote:

> As far as I know, PLs or contrib files *aren't* tested by the 
> regression tests, so, at best, they are getting 'spotty testing' right 
> now when we release ... we know they build, that's it. And that won't 
> change before/after ... Andrew is looking to add PL testing to the 
> build farm, something that isn't done now ...
>

contrib modules with install checks are tested now on buildfarm, and 
have been from day one.

PL testing is a high priority - I hope to get it done this month before 
my trip to aus.

cheers

andrew