Thread: Oracle beats up on Open Source Database(s) ... and gets beat back ...

Oracle beats up on Open Source Database(s) ... and gets beat back ...

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
Just in case anyone enjoys these sorts of things :)  It deals with the
whole .org TLD assignment ...

    http://forum.icann.org/org-eval/gartner-report




Re: Oracle beats up on Open Source Database(s) ... and

From
Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
Date:
On Wed, 2002-10-02 at 16:14, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> Just in case anyone enjoys these sorts of things :)  It deals with the
> whole .org TLD assignment ...
>
>     http://forum.icann.org/org-eval/gartner-report

I like this one:

| Unlike many of the conventional commercial databases, PostgreSQL has
| offered advanced Object Relational capabilities for years, including
| inheritance. Ms. Gelhausen is quite correct that these are important
| capabilities, finally available with the release of Oracle9i. We
| applaud Oracle's continued efforts to close the gap and stay
| ompetitive with this, and other open source database features.

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Re: Oracle beats up on Open Source Database(s) ... and

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote:
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> On Wed, 2002-10-02 at 16:14, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > 
> > Just in case anyone enjoys these sorts of things :)  It deals with the
> > whole .org TLD assignment ...
> > 
> >     http://forum.icann.org/org-eval/gartner-report
> 
> I like this one:
> 
> | Unlike many of the conventional commercial databases, PostgreSQL has
> | offered advanced Object Relational capabilities for years, including
> | inheritance. Ms. Gelhausen is quite correct that these are important 
> | capabilities, finally available with the release of Oracle9i. We 
> | applaud Oracle's continued efforts to close the gap and stay 
> | competitive with this, and other open source database features.

Yes, I found the thread assuming.  Here are the choice parts from the
Oracle posting:

> PostgreSQL, like many other open source database products, has been in
> the market for many years with very little adoption.  Unlike the

Oh, someone should tell our huge user base.

> open-source operating system market, the open-source database market has

"We support Linux, so I can't bad mouth open-source OS's."

> been unsuccessful due to the complexity of customer requirements and
> sophistication of the technology needed.  PostgreSQL is used primarily

Fear-uncertainty-doubt.  "Express it as fact and people will belive it."

> in the embedded system market because it lacks the transactional
> features, high availability, security and manageability of any
> commercial enterprise database.

He is confusing us with MySQL.   "Oh, they are all the same;  doesn't
matter."

[ Quotes of lots of stuff PostgreSQL has had for years that Oracle just
added recently.  Is he trying to make Oracle look good?  ]

> While there is a place in the industry for open source software.  It
> will be many years, if ever, that an open source database matches
> Oracle's database technology for the availability, standards support,
> performance, manageability, security, application support, and stability
> that most real-world business applications require.

Fear-uncertainty-doubt (FUD).

> thank you.
> Jenny Gelhausen
> Oracle Marketing
> 
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Oh, that explains it all.

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