Thread: Platform testing (last call?)

Platform testing (last call?)

From
Thomas Lockhart
Date:
Things have firmed up nicely for the 7.2 release. We currently have
several NetBSD platforms which have not reported success for 7.2, maybe
only because they have a relatively small user base (and aging
processors) nowadays. If anyone still has a m68k, VAX or arm running
NetBSD, let us know!

Oh, and a question about Linux/PlayStation2: if it is an x86 processor,
even without test and set support, should we list it separately? Or is
it enough like other PCs that it is too fine a distinction to make?
                    - Thomas

The problem platforms with comments and questions are:

NetBSD/arm32 Patrick Welche             Any luck finding time to do the test?
NetBSD/m68k  Bill Studenmund             Any luck finding another test platform?
NetBSD/VAX   Tom I. Helbekkmo             Any VAXen out there nowadays?
SunOS        Tatsuo Ishii             Anyone writing a memcpy for it?             Tatsuo will be retiring his machine
soon.


And those reported as successful:

AIX          Andreas Zeugswetter, Tatsuo, Tom
BeOS         Cyril Velter
BSD/OS       Bruce
FreeBSD      Chris Kings-Lynne
HPUX         Tom, Joseph Conway
IRIX         Luis Amigo
Linux/Alpha  Tom
Linux/arm    Mark Knox
Linux/MIPS   Hisao Shibuya
Linux/PlayStation2 Permaine Cheung
Linux/PPC    Tom
Linux/sparc  Doug McNaught
Linux/s390   Permaine Cheung
Linux/x86    Thomas (and many others ;)
MacOS-X      Gavin Sherry
NetBSD/Alpha Thomas Thai
NetBSD/PPC   Bill Studenmund
NetBSD/sparc Matthew Green
NetBSD/x86   Bill Studenmund
OpenBSD/sparc Brandon Palmer
OpenBSD/x86  Brandon Palmer
OpenUnix     Larry Rosenman
QNX 4        Bernd Tegge
QNX 6        Igor Kovalenko
Solaris/sparc Andrew Sullivan
Solaris/x86  Martin Renters
Tru64        Alessio Bragadini, Bernd Tegge
Windows/Cygwin Dave Page, Jason Tishler
Windows/native (clients only) Dave Page


Re: Platform testing (last call?)

From
Larry Rosenman
Date:
I have a hp 9000/433s that I can fire up and try if need be.

(1.5.1 of NetBSD).

LER

* Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@fourpalms.org> [011213 10:15]:
> Things have firmed up nicely for the 7.2 release. We currently have
> several NetBSD platforms which have not reported success for 7.2, maybe
> only because they have a relatively small user base (and aging
> processors) nowadays. If anyone still has a m68k, VAX or arm running
> NetBSD, let us know!
> 
> Oh, and a question about Linux/PlayStation2: if it is an x86 processor,
> even without test and set support, should we list it separately? Or is
> it enough like other PCs that it is too fine a distinction to make?
> 
>                      - Thomas
> 
> The problem platforms with comments and questions are:
> 
> NetBSD/arm32 Patrick Welche
>               Any luck finding time to do the test?
> NetBSD/m68k  Bill Studenmund
>               Any luck finding another test platform?
> NetBSD/VAX   Tom I. Helbekkmo
>               Any VAXen out there nowadays?
> SunOS        Tatsuo Ishii
>               Anyone writing a memcpy for it?
>               Tatsuo will be retiring his machine soon.
> 
> 
> And those reported as successful:
> 
> AIX          Andreas Zeugswetter, Tatsuo, Tom
> BeOS         Cyril Velter
> BSD/OS       Bruce
> FreeBSD      Chris Kings-Lynne
> HPUX         Tom, Joseph Conway
> IRIX         Luis Amigo
> Linux/Alpha  Tom
> Linux/arm    Mark Knox
> Linux/MIPS   Hisao Shibuya
> Linux/PlayStation2 Permaine Cheung
> Linux/PPC    Tom
> Linux/sparc  Doug McNaught
> Linux/s390   Permaine Cheung
> Linux/x86    Thomas (and many others ;)
> MacOS-X      Gavin Sherry
> NetBSD/Alpha Thomas Thai
> NetBSD/PPC   Bill Studenmund
> NetBSD/sparc Matthew Green
> NetBSD/x86   Bill Studenmund
> OpenBSD/sparc Brandon Palmer
> OpenBSD/x86  Brandon Palmer
> OpenUnix     Larry Rosenman
> QNX 4        Bernd Tegge
> QNX 6        Igor Kovalenko
> Solaris/sparc Andrew Sullivan
> Solaris/x86  Martin Renters
> Tru64        Alessio Bragadini, Bernd Tegge
> Windows/Cygwin Dave Page, Jason Tishler
> Windows/native (clients only) Dave Page
> 
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Re: Platform testing (last call?)

From
Thomas Lockhart
Date:
> I have a hp 9000/433s that I can fire up and try if need be.
> (1.5.1 of NetBSD).

That is an m68k? If it is on the "problem list" (or not mentioned at
all), then any testing would be great!
                   - Thomas

> > The problem platforms with comments and questions are:
> >
> > NetBSD/arm32 Patrick Welche
> >               Any luck finding time to do the test?
> > NetBSD/m68k  Bill Studenmund
> >               Any luck finding another test platform?
> > NetBSD/VAX   Tom I. Helbekkmo
> >               Any VAXen out there nowadays?
> > SunOS        Tatsuo Ishii
> >               Anyone writing a memcpy for it?
> >               Tatsuo will be retiring his machine soon.


Re: Platform testing (last call?)

From
Larry Rosenman
Date:
* Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@fourpalms.org> [011213 10:22]:
> > I have a hp 9000/433s that I can fire up and try if need be.
> > (1.5.1 of NetBSD).
> 
> That is an m68k? If it is on the "problem list" (or not mentioned at
> all), then any testing would be great!
Yes, it's a 33 MhZ 68040.


> 
>                     - Thomas
> 
> > > The problem platforms with comments and questions are:
> > >
> > > NetBSD/arm32 Patrick Welche
> > >               Any luck finding time to do the test?
> > > NetBSD/m68k  Bill Studenmund
> > >               Any luck finding another test platform?
> > > NetBSD/VAX   Tom I. Helbekkmo
> > >               Any VAXen out there nowadays?
> > > SunOS        Tatsuo Ishii
> > >               Anyone writing a memcpy for it?
> > >               Tatsuo will be retiring his machine soon.

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Re: Platform testing (last call?)

From
Doug McNaught
Date:
Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@fourpalms.org> writes:

> Things have firmed up nicely for the 7.2 release. We currently have
> several NetBSD platforms which have not reported success for 7.2, maybe
> only because they have a relatively small user base (and aging
> processors) nowadays. If anyone still has a m68k, VAX or arm running
> NetBSD, let us know!

Has anyone tried to run it on OS X 10.1?  I know there were problems
with the compiler changes that Apple put in but I don't recall if
there's an easy fix.  

If someone can say "it should work" I'll try to get it compiled and
working there--I want to take my PowerBook on holiday and do some
hacking... 

> Oh, and a question about Linux/PlayStation2: if it is an x86 processor,
> even without test and set support, should we list it separately? Or is
> it enough like other PCs that it is too fine a distinction to make?

I am quite sure PS2 is not x86.  It's some kind of RISC with a lot of
special 3d and sound hardware, but I forget which.

-Doug
-- 
Let us cross over the river, and rest under the shade of the trees.  --T. J. Jackson, 1863


Re: Platform testing (last call?)

From
Thomas Lockhart
Date:
...
> Has anyone tried to run it on OS X 10.1? ...
> If someone can say "it should work" I'll try to get it compiled and
> working there--I want to take my PowerBook on holiday and do some
> hacking...

Pretty sure that someone already reported success on 10.1 (10.1.1?). So,
"it should work" ;)
                - Thomas


Re: Platform testing (last call?)

From
Neil Padgett
Date:
Thomas Lockhart wrote:

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> Oh, and a question about Linux/PlayStation2: if it is an x86 processor,
> even without test and set support, should we list it separately? Or is
> it enough like other PCs that it is too fine a distinction to make?

The Playstation2 does not have an X86 processor. It uses a MIPS R5900.
Sony calls this CPU the "Emotion Engine."

Neil

-- 
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Red Hat Canada Ltd.                       E-Mail:  npadgett@redhat.com
2323 Yonge Street, Suite #300, 
Toronto, ON  M4P 2C9


Re: Platform testing (last call?)

From
Doug McNaught
Date:
Alex Avriette <a_avriette@acs.org> writes:

> works for me. doug if you'd like an account on a 10.1 machine i can arrange
> that. i've got both the client and the server flavors available. there was
> some bizarre two-level-namespace problem, but it seems to work okay now.
> (update, yeah, just checked again to make sure. 10.1, 10.1.1, and
> 10.0-10.0.4 are all okay)..

Thanks for the offer.  I have a PB that I just updated to 10.1 so I'm
going to try to get it running there, probably tonight.

-Doug
-- 
Let us cross over the river, and rest under the shade of the trees.  --T. J. Jackson, 1863


Re: Platform testing (last call?)

From
Doug McNaught
Date:
Neil Padgett <npadgett@redhat.com> writes:

> The Playstation2 does not have an X86 processor. It uses a MIPS R5900.
> Sony calls this CPU the "Emotion Engine."

Nitpick: actually from what I've read that term refers to the
super-nifty graphics chipset, not to the CPU itself, which is fairly
vanilla.

Interesting that the PG compile doesn't try to use MIPS spinlocks on
the PS2...

-Doug
-- 
Let us cross over the river, and rest under the shade of the trees.  --T. J. Jackson, 1863


Re: Platform testing (last call?)

From
Alex Avriette
Date:
works for me. doug if you'd like an account on a 10.1 machine i can arrange
that. i've got both the client and the server flavors available. there was
some bizarre two-level-namespace problem, but it seems to work okay now.
(update, yeah, just checked again to make sure. 10.1, 10.1.1, and
10.0-10.0.4 are all okay)..

alex

-----Original Message-----

Has anyone tried to run it on OS X 10.1?  I know there were problems
with the compiler changes that Apple put in but I don't recall if
there's an easy fix.  



Re: Platform testing (last call?)

From
Alex Avriette
Date:
oh, if youre going to do testing tonight, one thing i didnt do.. apple has
their new 'developer tools' out, which *will* include a different
gcc/make/other stuff. so you might try installing that too.

alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug McNaught [mailto:doug@wireboard.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:27 PM
To: Alex Avriette
Cc: lockhart@fourpalms.org; Hackers List; Bill Studenmund;
prlw1@cam.ac.uk; tih@kpnQwest.no; Tatsuo Ishii; Permaine Cheung
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Platform testing (last call?)


Alex Avriette <a_avriette@acs.org> writes:

> works for me. doug if you'd like an account on a 10.1 machine i can
arrange
> that. i've got both the client and the server flavors available. there was
> some bizarre two-level-namespace problem, but it seems to work okay now.
> (update, yeah, just checked again to make sure. 10.1, 10.1.1, and
> 10.0-10.0.4 are all okay)..

Thanks for the offer.  I have a PB that I just updated to 10.1 so I'm
going to try to get it running there, probably tonight.

-Doug
-- 
Let us cross over the river, and rest under the shade of the trees.  --T. J. Jackson, 1863


Re: Platform testing (last call?)

From
Neil Padgett
Date:
Doug McNaught wrote:

> Interesting that the PG compile doesn't try to use MIPS spinlocks on
> the PS2...

It tries. The instructions aren't compatible.

Neil

-- 
Neil Padgett
Red Hat Canada Ltd.                       E-Mail:  npadgett@redhat.com
2323 Yonge Street, Suite #300, 
Toronto, ON  M4P 2C9


Re: Platform testing (last call?)

From
Patrick Macdonald
Date:
Doug McNaught wrote:
> 
> Neil Padgett <npadgett@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > The Playstation2 does not have an X86 processor. It uses a MIPS R5900.
> > Sony calls this CPU the "Emotion Engine."
> 
> Nitpick: actually from what I've read that term refers to the
> super-nifty graphics chipset, not to the CPU itself, which is fairly
> vanilla.

Actually, Neil is correct.  I had the great experience of
working on the tool chain for PlayStation2 a few years back.
And, yes, it was a fun project.  The Emotion Engine is the
MIPS core, the vector units and the arbiter. 
For more information on the Emotion Engine, check out the 
ieee.org website (they have a few good Emotion Engine tech
documents/papers).
> Interesting that the PG compile doesn't try to use MIPS spinlocks on
> the PS2...

The PlayStation2 MIPS Core does not have such instructions. 

Cheers,
Patrick
--
Patrick Macdonald 
Red Hat Database Development


Re: Platform testing (last call?)

From
Gavin Sherry
Date:
On 13 Dec 2001, Doug McNaught wrote:

> Thomas Lockhart <lockhart@fourpalms.org> writes:
> 
> > Things have firmed up nicely for the 7.2 release. We currently have
> > several NetBSD platforms which have not reported success for 7.2, maybe
> > only because they have a relatively small user base (and aging
> > processors) nowadays. If anyone still has a m68k, VAX or arm running
> > NetBSD, let us know!
> 
> Has anyone tried to run it on OS X 10.1?  I know there were problems
> with the compiler changes that Apple put in but I don't recall if
> there's an easy fix.  

10.1.1 compiles/tests fine. See my email on 28th Nov.


Gavin



Re: Platform testing (last call?)

From
Doug McNaught
Date:
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> writes:

> Doug McNaught <doug@wireboard.com> writes:
> > Has anyone tried to run it on OS X 10.1?
> 
> Yes, fixed and tested by yours truly ... at least on 10.1.
> I have not installed the 10.1.1 update yet.  If anyone has,
> it'd be worth doing a quick check.

If I have time tonight I'll give it a try. 

-Doug
-- 
Let us cross over the river, and rest under the shade of the trees.  --T. J. Jackson, 1863


Re: Platform testing (last call?)

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Doug McNaught <doug@wireboard.com> writes:
> Has anyone tried to run it on OS X 10.1?

Yes, fixed and tested by yours truly ... at least on 10.1.
I have not installed the 10.1.1 update yet.  If anyone has,
it'd be worth doing a quick check.
        regards, tom lane


Re: Platform testing (last call?)

From
"Christopher Kings-Lynne"
Date:
> Things have firmed up nicely for the 7.2 release. We currently have
> several NetBSD platforms which have not reported success for 7.2, maybe
> only because they have a relatively small user base (and aging
> processors) nowadays. If anyone still has a m68k, VAX or arm running
> NetBSD, let us know!

<snip>

> And those reported as successful:
>
> AIX          Andreas Zeugswetter, Tatsuo, Tom
> BeOS         Cyril Velter
> BSD/OS       Bruce
> FreeBSD      Chris Kings-Lynne

Should be FreeBSD/x86 ...

I'm still trying to get my friend's Alpha set up (cables, etc - I will
hopefully be able to test it before end of betas/RC's)

Chris



Re: Platform testing (last call?)

From
Doug McNaught
Date:
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> writes:

> Doug McNaught <doug@wireboard.com> writes:
> > Has anyone tried to run it on OS X 10.1?
> 
> Yes, fixed and tested by yours truly ... at least on 10.1.
> I have not installed the 10.1.1 update yet.  If anyone has,
> it'd be worth doing a quick check.

Installed 10.1.1, PG compiles and tests out just fine.  

-Doug
-- 
Let us cross over the river, and rest under the shade of the trees.  --T. J. Jackson, 1863