Thread: Re: Fix for RENAME

Re: Fix for RENAME

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Can someone comment on this?


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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:pgman@candle.pha.pa.us]
> > 
> > > I'm now inclined to introduce a new system relation to store
> > > the physical path name. It could also have table(data)space
> > > information in the (near ?) future. 
> > > It seems better to separate it from pg_class because table(data?)
> > > space may change the concept of table allocation.
> > 
> > Why not just put it in pg_class?
> >
> 
> Not sure,it's only my feeling.
> Comments please,everyone.
> 
> We have taken a practical way which doesn't break file per table
> assumption in this thread and it wouldn't so difficult  to implement.
> In fact Ross has already tried it.
> 
> However there was a discussion about data(table)space for
> months ago and currently a new discussion is there.
> Judging from the previous discussion,I can't expect so much
> that it could get a practical consensus(How many opinions there
> were). We can make a practical step toward future by encapsulating
> the information of table allocation. Separating table alloc info from
> pg_class seems one of the way. 
> There may be more essential things for encapsulation. 
> 
> Comments ?
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Hiroshi Inoue
> Inoue@tpf.co.jp
> 
> 


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RE: Fix for RENAME

From
"Hiroshi Inoue"
Date:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:pgman@candle.pha.pa.us]
> 
> Can someone comment on this?
>

It seems to me that we have to reach some consensus in
order to get a standard transactional control mechanism
to change the allocation of table files. Probably we would
have to separate things into 2 parts.
1) Where to allocate tables --  we would need some encapsulation   like tablespace.  It would be better to be handled
differentlyby   each storage manager. Note that tablespace is only an encap-   sulation and doesn't necessarily mean
thatof Oracle.
 
2) Where tables are allocated --  only specific strorage manager   knows the meaing and everything would be treated
internally.

Under current (file per table) storage manager,#1 isn't necessarily
needed for the implementaion of #2 and Ross has already tried it.
If we could get some consensus on the future direction of 1)2),
we would be able to apply his implementation.

Regards.

Hiroshi Inoue
Inoue@tpf.co.jp
> 
> [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ]
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:pgman@candle.pha.pa.us]
> > > 
> > > > I'm now inclined to introduce a new system relation to store
> > > > the physical path name. It could also have table(data)space
> > > > information in the (near ?) future. 
> > > > It seems better to separate it from pg_class because table(data?)
> > > > space may change the concept of table allocation.
> > > 
> > > Why not just put it in pg_class?
> > >
> > 
> > Not sure,it's only my feeling.
> > Comments please,everyone.
> > 
> > We have taken a practical way which doesn't break file per table
> > assumption in this thread and it wouldn't so difficult  to implement.
> > In fact Ross has already tried it.
> > 
> > However there was a discussion about data(table)space for
> > months ago and currently a new discussion is there.
> > Judging from the previous discussion,I can't expect so much
> > that it could get a practical consensus(How many opinions there
> > were). We can make a practical step toward future by encapsulating
> > the information of table allocation. Separating table alloc info from
> > pg_class seems one of the way. 
> > There may be more essential things for encapsulation. 
> > 
> > Comments ?
> > 
> > Regards.
> > 
> > Hiroshi Inoue
> > Inoue@tpf.co.jp
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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