Thread: views and categorized tables

views and categorized tables

From
Zery
Date:
  Hi,

I'm new in database world, but I know postgres for a long time ago. Now
I'm trying to focusing on developing a database using postgresql and
postgis extension. I have several question that needs help from all of you.

1. I understand about a view, the lack for me is I cannot edit a view
table, is it possible to create a view on top of a table, so I can view
the table by joining to another table but I can edit the table also?

2. Can i categorized tables by its category? so when I open the database
using my database client I will see "a folder inside a folder" like
view, not all the tables listed in my database client, but the category
will be listed, and when I open the category then I see the tables.

Hope that make sense, and please be patient with me.


Cheers,
Zery

Re: views and categorized tables

From
"David Johnston"
Date:
1) You can attach RULES to a view in order to make it updatable.  Consider
as an alternative putting INSERT/UPDATE code into FUNCTIONs
2) You can introduce one level of hierarchy into the database by placing
tables into SCHEMAs.  Make sure to "SET search_path" so that all schemas are
listed.  You will probably want to externally enforce a "no duplicate names"
policy if you do this since the database only checks for duplicate names
within a SCHEMA

Look at the documentation for (RULE, FUNCTION, SCHEMA) to get more details
on what each of these features offer.

David J.

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Subject: [GENERAL] views and categorized tables

  Hi,

I'm new in database world, but I know postgres for a long time ago. Now I'm
trying to focusing on developing a database using postgresql and postgis
extension. I have several question that needs help from all of you.

1. I understand about a view, the lack for me is I cannot edit a view table,
is it possible to create a view on top of a table, so I can view the table
by joining to another table but I can edit the table also?

2. Can i categorized tables by its category? so when I open the database
using my database client I will see "a folder inside a folder" like view,
not all the tables listed in my database client, but the category will be
listed, and when I open the category then I see the tables.

Hope that make sense, and please be patient with me.


Cheers,
Zery

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Re: views and categorized tables

From
Raymond O'Donnell
Date:
On 26/02/2011 15:04, Zery wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm new in database world, but I know postgres for a long time ago. Now
> I'm trying to focusing on developing a database using postgresql and
> postgis extension. I have several question that needs help from all of you.
>
> 1. I understand about a view, the lack for me is I cannot edit a view
> table, is it possible to create a view on top of a table, so I can view
> the table by joining to another table but I can edit the table also?

You can't edit views in PostgreSQL - they are read-only. You can get a
similar effect using rules, but I gather they can be difficult to get
right - I've never tried it myself.

What exactly are you trying to do? From the above, it sounds a bit as if
you might be restricting access to a table; if that's the case, you can
do it better using permissions. Views, in my experience, are more often
used for simplifying complex queries (among other things). If you tell
us more about what you want to do, it will help people to come up with
suggestions.

> 2. Can i categorized tables by its category? so when I open the database
> using my database client I will see "a folder inside a folder" like
> view, not all the tables listed in my database client, but the category
> will be listed, and when I open the category then I see the tables.

No, there's no concept of a table category in PostgreSQL. Perhaps
schemas may do what you want? - They effectively give you databases
within databases.... though they group together many other types of
objects - views, functions, types, etc etc - not just tables. Again,
what exactly are you trying to do?

Ray.


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