Thread: [postgis-users] how many min. floating-points?

[postgis-users] how many min. floating-points?

From
"John Smith"
Date:
guys,
how many min. floating-points must a server hardware support for
postgresql+postgis? does postgresql+postgis do much floating-point
math to make a difference? can someone give postgresql+postgis
application examples that will require high floating-points?
thks, jzs

Re: [postgis-users] how many min. floating-points?

From
Stephen Woodbridge
Date:
John Smith wrote:
> guys,
> how many min. floating-points must a server hardware support for
> postgresql+postgis? does postgresql+postgis do much floating-point
> math to make a difference? can someone give postgresql+postgis
> application examples that will require high floating-points?
> thks, jzs

I do not think there are any limits along these lines in most modern
servers. They all have support for floating point math. If it is not
supported in hardware it is supported in software by the ANSI-C compiler
and libraries.

So the real issue becomes what are you trying to do and what are your
performance requirements? This would be more interesting to us and we
can probably provide better support if you explain what you are trying
to do.

-Steve W

Re: [postgis-users] how many min. floating-points?

From
Sam Mason
Date:
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 02:02:12PM -0400, John Smith wrote:
> how many min. floating-points must a server hardware support for
> postgresql+postgis? does postgresql+postgis do much floating-point
> math to make a difference? can someone give postgresql+postgis
> application examples that will require high floating-points?

I think you're referring to "floating point operations per second", not
"floating points"---hence Colin's confusion.

If I understand your question, PG doesn't require any specific
performance level but your application probably does.  For example, PG
would be quite happy giving back one row per year if that's all your
processor(s) were capable of.  Your users may be a little unhappy with
this though!

What are you doing and what hardware have you tried it on?


  Sam

Re: [postgis-users] how many min. floating-points?

From
Colin Wetherbee
Date:
Sam Mason wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 02:02:12PM -0400, John Smith wrote:
>> how many min. floating-points must a server hardware support for
>> postgresql+postgis? does postgresql+postgis do much floating-point
>> math to make a difference? can someone give postgresql+postgis
>> application examples that will require high floating-points?
>
> I think you're referring to "floating point operations per second", not
> "floating points"---hence Colin's confusion.

Dunno about that.  On the PostGIS list, he said:

"i got an old box supporting only 1 floating-point"

Maybe he means an FPU? *boggle*

Just for an interesting comparison, the Casio calculator I've used for
simple stuff for about 15 years runs at about 10 FLOPS. :)

> If I understand your question, PG doesn't require any specific
> performance level but your application probably does.  For example, PG
> would be quite happy giving back one row per year if that's all your
> processor(s) were capable of.  Your users may be a little unhappy with
> this though!

I think my calculator could weigh-in around one row per year. ;)

Colin


Re: [postgis-users] how many min. floating-points?

From
"Andrej Ricnik-Bay"
Date:
On 21/03/2008, Colin Wetherbee <cww@denterprises.org> wrote:
> Dunno about that.  On the PostGIS list, he said:
>
>  "i got an old box supporting only 1 floating-point"
>
>  Maybe he means an FPU? *boggle*
Maybe floating-point registers on the FPU?

So many options!


Cheers,
Andrej


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Re: [postgis-users] how many min. floating-points?

From
"John Smith"
Date:
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Colin Wetherbee <cww@denterprises.org> wrote:
> John Smith wrote:
> > guys,
>
> Please don't cross-post, especially since nobody on the PostGIS mailing
> list answered your previous question.

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Colin Wetherbee <cww@denterprises.org> wrote:
> Dunno about that.  On the PostGIS list, he said:

please don't cross-post my cross-post. if i wanted to post it to the
postgresql list, i would have ;)
jzs

Re: [postgis-users] how many min. floating-points?

From
Colin Wetherbee
Date:
John Smith wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Colin Wetherbee
> <cww@denterprises.org> wrote:
>> Please don't cross-post, especially since nobody on the PostGIS
>> mailing list answered your previous question.
>
> please don't cross-post my cross-post. if i wanted to post it to the
> postgresql list, i would have ;)

That seems to be quite a silly request, considering you were asking for
assistance on public lists.

Regardless, what did you mean by "floating points"?

We'd like to help, but I don't think we're having much success
interpreting your question.

Some more information about your actual problem would be helpful, too.

Colin

Re: [postgis-users] how many min. floating-points?

From
"John Smith"
Date:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Colin Wetherbee <cww@denterprises.org> wrote:
> John Smith wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Colin Wetherbee
> > <cww@denterprises.org> wrote:
> >> Please don't cross-post, especially since nobody on the PostGIS
> >> mailing list answered your previous question.
> >
> > please don't cross-post my cross-post. if i wanted to post it to the
> > postgresql list, i would have ;)
>
> That seems to be quite a silly request, considering you were asking for
> assistance on public lists.

no seriously! if i wanted to post it to the postgresql list, i would
have. thanks but no thanks.
jzs

Re: [postgis-users] how many min. floating-points?

From
"Andrej Ricnik-Bay"
Date:
On 22/03/2008, John Smith <jayzee.smith@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > > please don't cross-post my cross-post. if i wanted to post it to the
>  > > postgresql list, i would have ;)

>  > That seems to be quite a silly request, considering you were asking for
>  > assistance on public lists.

> no seriously! if i wanted to post it to the postgresql list, i would
>  have. thanks but no thanks.
>  jzs

You did.  I can't see what would make you think you hadn't.

Here's the relevant header part from you original message:
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Message-ID: <f029597e0803201102s3cb31ec4g4d59368afec9554f@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:02:12 -0400
From: "John Smith" <jayzee.smith@gmail.com>
To: "PostgreSQL General" <pgsql-general@postgresql.org>
Subject: [GENERAL] [postgis-users] how many min. floating-points?
Cc: "PostGIS Users Discussion" <postgis-users@postgis.refractions.net>
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Cheers,
Andrej


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Re: [postgis-users] how many min. floating-points?

From
"John Smith"
Date:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Andrej Ricnik-Bay
<andrej.groups@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 22/03/2008, John Smith <jayzee.smith@gmail.com> wrote:
> >  > > please don't cross-post my cross-post. if i wanted to post it to the
> >  > > postgresql list, i would have ;)
>
> >  > That seems to be quite a silly request, considering you were asking for
> >  > assistance on public lists.
>
> > no seriously! if i wanted to post it to the postgresql list, i would
> >  have. thanks but no thanks.
> >  jzs
>
> You did.  I can't see what would make you think you hadn't.
>
> Here's the relevant header part from you original message:

no he dragged my subsequent posts soley to the postgis list to this
list- it is silly for someone who objects to cross-post to cross-post
an objectionable cross-post! have a good weekend, goodbye!
jzs