Thread: Re: Sun supporting PostgreSQL
> Sun's support for PostgreSQL will involve: *snip* > sponsorship of community members and projects; Given the focus of Sun on fault-tolerance etc., one of THE projects that they should definitely sponsor is http://gborg.postgresql.org/project/pgreplication/projdisplay.php Sincerely, Wolfgang Keller
On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 11:00 +0100, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > Given the focus of Sun on fault-tolerance etc., one of THE projects > that they should definitely sponsor is > http://gborg.postgresql.org/project/pgreplication/projdisplay.php AFAIK pgreplication is no longer active. However, the Slony II project is based on the same theoretical foundation (Kemme's Postgres-R work), and is under active development. The website is http://www.slony2.org; Gavin's talk is worth reading. We should have more information on the details of the design available soon. -Neil
>> sponsorship of community members and projects; This would be good. But frankly, if they never sponsor nor contribute a single line of code, the fact that *Sun* is now offering paid support for Postgres is a *huge* boost. From now on, when a company wants to know whether there are major firms supporting PG, we have a pat answer. (Assuming of course that Sun sticks with Postgres and their attention doesn't wander somewhere else. That is one problem with big companies--priorities sometimes shift.) -- Scott Ribe scott_ribe@killerbytes.com http://www.killerbytes.com/ (303) 665-7007 voice
Hello all:
Just to let you all know, Sun is in trouble. Linux is
taking alot of business away from Sun. Can we trust Sun to do the
right thing. Also, if Sun adds any code to PG, will it continue to be
opensource product. As you can tell, I don't trust these big IT
companies, but they are a necessary evil. How can we protect
ourselves from Sun if they plan to shaft us.
Ezra
On 11/18/05, Scott Ribe <scott_ribe@killerbytes.com> wrote:
> >> sponsorship of community members and projects;
>
> This would be good. But frankly, if they never sponsor nor contribute a
> single line of code, the fact that *Sun* is now offering paid support for
> Postgres is a *huge* boost. From now on, when a company wants to know
> whether there are major firms supporting PG, we have a pat answer. (Assuming
> of course that Sun sticks with Postgres and their attention doesn't wander
> somewhere else. That is one problem with big companies--priorities sometimes
> shift.)
>
> --
> Scott Ribe
> scott_ribe@killerbytes.com
> http://www.killerbytes.com/
> (303) 665-7007 voice
>
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On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 11:07:55AM -0500, Ezra Taylor wrote: > Hello all: > Just to let you all know, Sun is in trouble. Linux is > taking alot of business away from Sun. Can we trust Sun to do the > right thing. Also, if Sun adds any code to PG, will it continue to be > opensource product. As you can tell, I don't trust these big IT > companies, but they are a necessary evil. How can we protect > ourselves from Sun if they plan to shaft us. Umm, if the code they submit is under a BSD licence then it doesn't matter what they do, we can use it for whatever purpose we like, with or without their permission. And if they don't put it under the right licence, we don't include it. I really don't see how they can hurt us in any way on that front. Patents are the danger, but no more from Sun than anybody else. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org> http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Patent. n. Genius is 5% inspiration and 95% perspiration. A patent is a > tool for doing 5% of the work and then sitting around waiting for someone > else to do the other 95% so you can sue them.
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Thanks Martijn. On 11/19/05, Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 11:07:55AM -0500, Ezra Taylor wrote: > > Hello all: > > Just to let you all know, Sun is in trouble. Linux is > > taking alot of business away from Sun. Can we trust Sun to do the > > right thing. Also, if Sun adds any code to PG, will it continue to be > > opensource product. As you can tell, I don't trust these big IT > > companies, but they are a necessary evil. How can we protect > > ourselves from Sun if they plan to shaft us. > > Umm, if the code they submit is under a BSD licence then it doesn't > matter what they do, we can use it for whatever purpose we like, with > or without their permission. And if they don't put it under the right > licence, we don't include it. I really don't see how they can hurt us > in any way on that front. > > Patents are the danger, but no more from Sun than anybody else. > > Have a nice day, > -- > Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org> http://svana.org/kleptog/ > > Patent. n. Genius is 5% inspiration and 95% perspiration. A patent is a > > tool for doing 5% of the work and then sitting around waiting for someone > > else to do the other 95% so you can sue them. > > >
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, Ezra Taylor wrote: > Hello all: > Just to let you all know, Sun is in trouble. Linux is > taking alot of business away from Sun. Can we trust Sun to do the > right thing. Also, if Sun adds any code to PG, will it continue to be > opensource product. As you can tell, I don't trust these big IT > companies, but they are a necessary evil. How can we protect > ourselves from Sun if they plan to shaft us. How would they shaft us? We only add code to *our* tree that is BSD licenced, so any code Sun submits to us will have to be the same ... Sun is "just another operating system company" that happens to now be providing PostgreSQL as part of their offering ... there are several now that are doing their own version of PostgreSQL, with 'closed source' modifications to it ... if Sun decides to do this, they have that option ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664