Thread: Visual Designer in linux?
Is there a visual designer (open source) in linux for database? I would like to developp my data model on the computer... I see "dia" with uml library but... it won't export to SQL.
On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 10:32:30PM -0500, Eric wrote: > Is there a visual designer (open source) in linux for database? I would > like to developp my data model on the computer... > > I see "dia" with uml library but... it won't export to SQL. You can have UML diagrams exported to SQL with some Perl or Python program whose URL you can find on Dia's homepage. dia2sql or something like that. It's damn easy. Hmm ... I think I got the URL somewhere ... yes, you are lucky: http://tedia2sql.tigris.org/ -- Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[@]dcc.uchile.cl>) "Si quieres ser creativo, aprende el arte de perder el tiempo"
I tried a lot of apps. The one I prefer is "DbDesigner4" but I don't see support for postgresql... Only Oracle, mySQL... There is support for ODBC, I don't know if that will do the job if I install Unix-ODBC and create a postgres data source. The point is, IF I succeed to make it work with postgres, I don't know if I will have a non-optimized database at the end... because DBDesigner4 won't take profit of postgres features? On Sun, 2004-11-07 at 00:29, Alvaro Herrera Munoz wrote: > On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 10:32:30PM -0500, Eric wrote: > > Is there a visual designer (open source) in linux for database? I would > > like to developp my data model on the computer... > > > > I see "dia" with uml library but... it won't export to SQL. > > You can have UML diagrams exported to SQL with some Perl or Python program > whose URL you can find on Dia's homepage. dia2sql or something like > that. It's damn easy. Hmm ... I think I got the URL somewhere ... > yes, you are lucky: http://tedia2sql.tigris.org/
There is an ODBC driver for windows that will then talk native to the PostgreSQL database, why not use that? Also what features do you think something might be able to use anyway to "optimise"? Hope this helps, On Sun, Nov 07, 2004 at 02:49:06PM -0500, Eric wrote: > I tried a lot of apps. The one I prefer is "DbDesigner4" but I don't > see support for postgresql... Only Oracle, mySQL... > > There is support for ODBC, I don't know if that will do the job if I > install Unix-ODBC and create a postgres data source. > > The point is, IF I succeed to make it work with postgres, I don't know > if I will have a non-optimized database at the end... because > DBDesigner4 won't take profit of postgres features? > > > On Sun, 2004-11-07 at 00:29, Alvaro Herrera Munoz wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 10:32:30PM -0500, Eric wrote: > > > Is there a visual designer (open source) in linux for database? I would > > > like to developp my data model on the computer... > > > > > > I see "dia" with uml library but... it won't export to SQL. > > > > You can have UML diagrams exported to SQL with some Perl or Python program > > whose URL you can find on Dia's homepage. dia2sql or something like > > that. It's damn easy. Hmm ... I think I got the URL somewhere ... > > yes, you are lucky: http://tedia2sql.tigris.org/ > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your > joining column's datatypes do not match -- Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org> http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Patent. n. Genius is 5% inspiration and 95% perspiration. A patent is a > tool for doing 5% of the work and then sitting around waiting for someone > else to do the other 95% so you can sue them.
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On Sun, 2004-11-07 at 16:32, Eric wrote: > Is there a visual designer (open source) in linux for database? I would > like to developp my data model on the computer... 'Druid' is a Java app that does schema diagrams and point and click table management stuff: http://druid.sourceforge.net/ I haven't used it myself, but I know people that have and think it's pretty good. Grant
On Sun, 2004-11-07 at 14:54, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > There is an ODBC driver for windows that will then talk native to the > PostgreSQL database, why not use that? Because I'm on linux :p
Eric wrote: > Is there a visual designer (open source) in linux for database? I would > like to developpASCIIata model on the computer... > > I see "dia" with uml library but... it won't export to SQL. > If you like Qt can use Qt-Designer (assuming you have the PostgreSQL odbc driver installed) or you can use KDevelop and merge Qt gui's with it. I prefer Python and Boa_Constructor (which requires wxPython) and a unixODBC DNS to PostgreSQL. Boa creates ASCII source files which version control nicely. It has a great runtime debugger with stops, watches, var displays,etc. If you use Java then JDeveloper with an ODBC line to PostgreSQL works OK, but Python is 5-10X faster. -- GreyGeek
Heu... I search for a graphical DATA MODEL designer in linux to developp my database project (to draw) it on screen instead of paper and pencil... Thanks for answers about Database GUI developper... I will surely need it later but for now, I want to "draw" boxes etc... on screen for my tables and interactions. I don't know about UML (somebody told me about it). I'd like DBDesigner4 at this moment but I will have to test with ODBC because it seems that postgresql isn't native support like mysql with this tool... Any other suggestions welcome. I hope this message will be more accurate then the one before :) Thanks every body for your advices. Eric.
Although it is not Free I think that you should give EMS Postgres Manager a try (www.ems-hitech.com), it Does pretty much everything that MS-SQL Enterprise manger does, including a good Diagramming tool. Embarcardo Technologies have some very good, (but expensive) Db design tools , mostly for windows, but with very wide Database support http://www.embarcadero.com/ AquaFold Aqua Data studio is a good Design tool, how good it is at generating PL/SQL statements is something I have not tried http://www.aquadatastudio.com/downloads.html And The Kompany have a pretty decent, though relatively new product called Data Architect, that appeared promising. http://www.thekompany.com/home/ Cheers Johan Wehtje Eric wrote: >Heu... > >I search for a graphical DATA MODEL designer in linux to developp my >database project (to draw) it on screen instead of paper and pencil... > >Thanks for answers about Database GUI developper... I will surely need >it later but for now, I want to "draw" boxes etc... on screen for my >tables and interactions. > >I don't know about UML (somebody told me about it). > >I'd like DBDesigner4 at this moment but I will have to test with ODBC >because it seems that postgresql isn't native support like mysql with >this tool... > >Any other suggestions welcome. > >I hope this message will be more accurate then the one before :) > >Thanks every body for your advices. > >Eric. > > > >---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html > > >. > > >
Eric wrote: > Is there a visual designer (open source) in linux for database? I would > like to developp my data model on the computer... > > I see "dia" with uml library but... it won't export to SQL. GerWin: http://es.gnu.org/~jemarch/cgi-bin/index.pl?Site=GerWin Design your database as though you were using Microsoft Access (including relationships), it will then write the necessary code to implement that design in several different languages, including Postgres. -- Gary G. Taylor * Rialto, CA gary at donavan dot org / http:// geetee dot donavan dot org "The two most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity." --Harlan Ellison