Thread: Relational data model dead?

Relational data model dead?

From
Martin Marques
Date:
Has someone read this: http://www.wiscorp.com/sql/Sql99_p2.zip

Are this guys at Whitemarsh Information Systems Corporation important in the
SQL99 writing?

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Re: Relational data model dead?

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Martin Marques <martin@bugs.unl.edu.ar> writes:
> Has someone read this: http://www.wiscorp.com/sql/Sql99_p2.zip

I get a "not found"...

> Are this guys at Whitemarsh Information Systems Corporation important in the
> SQL99 writing?

Unlikely; if they are of the persuasion that relational DBs are
uninteresting, they'd hardly be spending time working on bigger and
better(?) standards for relational DBs.

"Relational databases are dead" has been a standard academic litany for
years now, but it has nothing to do with the real world AFAICS.

            regards, tom lane

Re: Relational data model dead?

From
Martin Marques
Date:
El Lun 15 Dic 2003 20:08, escribió:
> Martin Marques <martin@bugs.unl.edu.ar> writes:
> > Has someone read this: http://www.wiscorp.com/sql/Sql99_p2.zip
>
> I get a "not found"...

http://www.wiscorp.com/sql/Sql99_p1.zip

Sorry, my wrong.

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Re: Relational data model dead?

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Tom Lane wrote:
> Martin Marques <martin@bugs.unl.edu.ar> writes:
> > Has someone read this: http://www.wiscorp.com/sql/Sql99_p2.zip
>
> I get a "not found"...
>
> > Are this guys at Whitemarsh Information Systems Corporation important in the
> > SQL99 writing?
>
> Unlikely; if they are of the persuasion that relational DBs are
> uninteresting, they'd hardly be spending time working on bigger and
> better(?) standards for relational DBs.
>
> "Relational databases are dead" has been a standard academic litany for
> years now, but it has nothing to do with the real world AFAICS.

Maybe it means there isn't anything interesting to study about
relational databases.  From an academic perspective, the fact it meets
people's needs is beyond the point.  :-)

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Re: Relational data model dead?

From
Alvaro Herrera
Date:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:14:09PM -0300, Martin Marques wrote:
> El Lun 15 Dic 2003 20:08, escribió:
> > Martin Marques <martin@bugs.unl.edu.ar> writes:
> > > Has someone read this: http://www.wiscorp.com/sql/Sql99_p2.zip
> >
> > I get a "not found"...
>
> http://www.wiscorp.com/sql/Sql99_p1.zip
>
> Sorry, my wrong.

AFAICS it only talks about how SQL99 extends the previous data models ...
(SQL92, etc).  So it's not so much a death of the relational model.
Looks like more an attempt at getting attention than the typical
academic dismiss of "real world theory."

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Re: Relational data model dead?

From
Christopher Browne
Date:
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us (Tom Lane) writes:
> "Relational databases are dead" has been a standard academic litany for
> years now, but it has nothing to do with the real world AFAICS.

The fundamental problem there is that it is difficult for academics to
come up with original research surrounding relational databases.  This
may make them a poor area of study for academics, but implies nothing
about their usefulness in practice.
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