Thread: PostgreSQL on Windows
Hi Everybody, A good person from this list helped me in getting a binary distribution for PostgreSQL for windows. Though its in beta form, it sure is a good start for me. I was able to start it up much like I used to do for mysql in less than a minute. I cant reveal his name unless he wants me to. But I am amazed why this is not popularized. Anyway if somebody need this distribution they can contact me. I don't have web server so cant put any online but anybody willing to come forward I can place it there so that everybody is benefited. Have a great day to all. Karthikeyan B
I'm interested. Is this a Win32 native version of PostgreSQL 7.1.3 server or cygwin? There is a Win32 version of PostgreSQL 7.1.3 included within the Cygwin distribution downloadable from http://www.cygwin.com/ but it requires the cygwin1.dll to run it. Plus, it requires cygpic 1.13 which is not included in Cygwin; it is a separate download and install you must make. This information is found in the readme for PostgreSQL in the cygwin documentation. -----Original Message----- From: pgsql-general-owner@postgresql.org [mailto:pgsql-general-owner@postgresql.org]On Behalf Of karthikeyan.balasubramanian Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 7:26 AM To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL on Windows Hi Everybody, A good person from this list helped me in getting a binary distribution for PostgreSQL for windows. Though its in beta form, it sure is a good start for me. I was able to start it up much like I used to do for mysql in less than a minute. I cant reveal his name unless he wants me to. But I am amazed why this is not popularized. Anyway if somebody need this distribution they can contact me. I don't have web server so cant put any online but anybody willing to come forward I can place it there so that everybody is benefited. Have a great day to all. Karthikeyan B ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
----- Original Message ----- From: "karthikeyan.balasubramanian" > Hi Everybody, > > A good person from this list helped me in getting a binary distribution > for PostgreSQL for windows. Though its in beta form, it sure is a good > start for me. I was able to start it up much like I used to do for mysql in > less than a minute. I cant reveal his name unless he wants me to. But I am > amazed why this is not popularized. > It should be popularized. I don't use PosgreSQL yet only because I need both linux and Windows as server OS-es and it has to easily install on both of them. Best regards, Application Developer Pirtea Calin Iancu S.C. SoftScape S.R.L. pcalin@rdsor.ro
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:29:30 -0500 > From: "Daniel Morgan" <danmorg@sc.rr.com> > > I'm interested. Is this a Win32 native version of PostgreSQL 7.1.3 server or > cygwin? > > There is a Win32 version of PostgreSQL 7.1.3 included within the Cygwin > distribution downloadable > from http://www.cygwin.com/ > but it requires the cygwin1.dll to run it. > There is a native Win32 version of PostgreSQL available that can be bought from dbexperts (http://www.dbexperts.net/). I guess Karthikeyan has pirated this version, so the "good person from this list" probably has good reasons to remain in the dark... Christoph Dalitz
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 15:06:22 +0100, Christoph Dalitz wrote: This "good" person on the list reached a beta of the 7.2 server around, so no REAL prob. It's some porting effort from multera. But AFAIK PostgreSQL is GPL'ed, so it is not allowed to modify and sell only? So ANY copy of whom ever modified PostgreSQL HAS to be free, or am I wrong? So how can it be pirated? >> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:29:30 -0500 >> From: "Daniel Morgan" <danmorg@sc.rr.com> >> >> I'm interested. Is this a Win32 native version of PostgreSQL 7.1.3 server or >> cygwin? >> >> There is a Win32 version of PostgreSQL 7.1.3 included within the Cygwin >> distribution downloadable >> from http://www.cygwin.com/ >> but it requires the cygwin1.dll to run it. >> >There is a native Win32 version of PostgreSQL available that can be bought >from dbexperts (http://www.dbexperts.net/). >I guess Karthikeyan has pirated this version, so the "good person from this list" >probably has good reasons to remain in the dark... >Christoph Dalitz >---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? >http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html sincerely, Patric Bechtel IPCON Informationssysteme - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. mQGiBD4hkMERBADNMNrmye5hXtCU35gi5JB1IHkGuvgL/5BYkQpTyDLFA1rcHlUu +lyCuQnaMBvqKXSbuwDymIOinbR/DFgRt7ZwWhlBZX9JCV2zcNbca2pJ9JFbrZ14 aTve0LWoO3ljZQz1g6dhC14D+a0vN3hDBvaxavgNeVIX5XJRKC02xlWhaQCg/0j0 S8/bNgKsbMSMVfAbeVrwGW0EALBiel6TNkKtO+8v2qMNvwR6AlGFPVgxX6B95xqC RQlUDMKqd07Kfmub9qK7wX7n/c7ck96aSWsHkd+qXiX5wOrEUuVHUaR+OWQ772Gd xzeJ1hgqEXNnUqwW8QnDGuKjJ3WwvbfULlyOVI2WnJKBJb9dMheiWFaloTOqJ5LU y3feA/9i/Pd3QPgBOudu7QDNcWtqGAp4jLPOlzeCYFGZkRI0/yVGkdcZaqn4Ez1x Aeb2y0ijSqDUJauTgE9RDNI4HZNPK7vFb7aN6WcZ8gNylQOZdS0h/uM1oisyv1YY Q5I/pvjfT+iEwdMMPQVMh0DY0c4806BmAkFbh9samJaPpm6PYrQhUGF0cmljIEJl Y2h0ZWwgPGJlY2h0ZWxAaXBjb24uZGU+iQBOBBARAgAOBQI+IZDBBAsDAgECGQEA CgkQfGgGu8y7ypAN+ACeIbN5gD22P0QpCtufDGlDD1UIsoIAn19UJ5DhTWMwxeZf KSBtjjVsswiiuQINBD4hkMEQCAD2Qle3CH8IF3KiutapQvMF6PlTETlPtvFuuUs4 INoBp1ajFOmPQFXz0AfGy0OplK33TGSGSfgMg71l6RfUodNQ+PVZX9x2Uk89PY3b zpnhV5JZzf24rnRPxfx2vIPFRzBhznzJZv8V+bv9kV7HAarTW56NoKVyOtQa8L9G AFgr5fSI/VhOSdvNILSd5JEHNmszbDgNRR0PfIizHHxbLY7288kjwEPwpVsYjY67 VYy4XTjTNP18F1dDox0YbN4zISy1Kv884bEpQBgRjXyEpwpy1obEAxnIByl6ypUM 2Zafq9AKUJsCRtMIPWakXUGfnHy9iUsiGSa6q6Jew1XpMgs7AAICB/4+9hRIaZs+ MiJABA+QvbnU1N2SfrZ8PyhYk1FOAiLmSOPeT/6UWK7YEY6GiOujXRGpiqlyuAak 8YGDO0J5QURwZU1ao8toEXEpx5iHSo/pgf1m53IQIRaSDf05hzBBBbIjNMXCsjMk FS2H2uozSNGdeBzTQqQ/tYnyodctbtc+bXaplKlbA85fj0JbbojBLv+S71E6j9fc e0aqdNl5ZTy547dlZvXY/WgNJHBpmVVobStcOjYpYkF+0E8a9lTSoQHh4SXCjE/2 tf8W3TcPPVUgPeJzQGb2cdGgbC5I4Oaz6vDaAJ68hk3vKauoBcbjiISlUxqvul5M tgb9kgcGDp9OiQBGBBgRAgAGBQI+IZDBAAoJEHxoBrvMu8qQly4Anjxp+O42ax91 dHIlZI93a3IYqjbZAJwJfDajIDVHHozMu8j5FEyV26WUEg== =HZnf - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- PGP Public Key Fingerprint: 2636 F26E F523 7D62 4377 D206 7C68 06BB -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPiK89XxoBrvMu8qQEQJUTACeI//biZx4Ck/3W17tMA4zw5BiGd8AoMoU TamV5UoMHFB+sWXbt7lNljzo =LNAz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Christoph Dalitz wrote: > There is a native Win32 version of PostgreSQL available that can be bought > from dbexperts (http://www.dbexperts.net/). > > I guess Karthikeyan has pirated this version, so the "good person from this list" > probably has good reasons to remain in the dark... > Was there not a native version sort of released by someone for testing ahead integration into the main tree? -- Nigel J. Andrews
Nigel J. Andrews wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Christoph Dalitz wrote: > > >>There is a native Win32 version of PostgreSQL available that can be bought >>from dbexperts (http://www.dbexperts.net/). >> >>I guess Karthikeyan has pirated this version, so the "good person from this list" >>probably has good reasons to remain in the dark... >> > > > Was there not a native version sort of released by someone for testing ahead > integration into the main tree? > > Hi, I am the "good person" on the list. I did not pirate anyones software. I sent the person a link that Multera provided to the UMN Mapserver, and Postgis lists, requesting people to try their port.... Please do not be so quick to ASS U ME things.... regards, nicolas boretos
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 16:59:00 +0200 Nicolas Boretos <nicolasb@maich.gr> wrote: > > I am the "good person" on the list. I did not pirate anyones software. > I sent the person a link that Multera provided to the UMN Mapserver, and > Postgis lists, requesting people to try their port.... > > Please do not be so quick to ASS U ME things.... > Ooops, sorry for my nasty comment. Let's forget it and keep as a bottom line that there already is a stable commercial native Win32 port of PostgreSQL (from dbexperts) and some other "unstable" prereleases. Christoph Dalitz
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christoph Dalitz" > There is a native Win32 version of PostgreSQL available that can be bought > from dbexperts (http://www.dbexperts.net/). > I thought the license of PostgreSQL does not allow someone to sell it for money. How do they license this Win32 version? Best regards, Application Developer Pirtea Calin Iancu S.C. SoftScape S.R.L. pcalin@rdsor.ro
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Patric Bechtel wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 15:06:22 +0100, Christoph Dalitz wrote: > > This "good" person on the list reached a beta of the 7.2 server around, > so no REAL prob. It's some porting effort from multera. > But AFAIK PostgreSQL is GPL'ed, so it is not allowed to modify and > sell only? So ANY copy of whom ever modified PostgreSQL HAS to be free, > or am I wrong? So how can it be pirated? Sorry, but you have been misinformed. Postgresql is licensed under the much more loose BSD style license, which means someone can do exactly what we are speaking of, i.e. port it and charge money and not give away the source code.
On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 09:19, Patric Bechtel wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 15:06:22 +0100, Christoph Dalitz wrote: > > This "good" person on the list reached a beta of the 7.2 server around, > so no REAL prob. It's some porting effort from multera. > But AFAIK PostgreSQL is GPL'ed, so it is not allowed to modify and > sell only? So ANY copy of whom ever modified PostgreSQL HAS to be free, > or am I wrong? So how can it be pirated? > PostgreSQL is distributed under a BSD license, so people can make changes to the code and keep them closed source. AFAIK this is what dbexperts has done, so someone that used their source code to make there own distribution would be pirating the software. Robert Treat
Pirtea Calin Iancu wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christoph Dalitz" > > There is a native Win32 version of PostgreSQL available that can be bought > > from dbexperts (http://www.dbexperts.net/). > > > I thought the license of PostgreSQL does not allow someone to sell it for > money. > How do they license this Win32 version? There is no such restriction in the BSD license we use. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
Christoph Dalitz wrote: <snip> > I guess Karthikeyan has pirated this version, so the "good person from this list" > probably has good reasons to remain in the dark... It sounds more like a Beta version of PeerDirect's native PostgreSQL port. Instead of being all secretive and stuff about it, people who want legitimate access to the Beta version can probably email to: Michael Furgal <mikef@multera.com> And ask if they're willing to accept more beta testers. It's reasonably likely they'd say yes. :-) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift > Christoph Dalitz > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > > http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html -- "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there." - Indira Gandhi
OK -- I see what you mean.
Yes, you're right. This can be a prob. In fact, I have the same issue
with my biz-dev folks tha need to install our app on their laptops.
Having to go through cygwin and install PostgreSQL is something they they
can't grasp.
Rgs,
Aurangzeb
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:09:26 +0200
> From: "Pirtea Calin Iancu" <pcalin@rdsor.ro>
> To: "PostgreSQL General List" <pgsql-general@postgresql.org>
> Subject: Re: Re PostgreSQL on Windows
> Message-ID: <018d01c2bb37$4a9884a0$0263a8c0@dizzy>
>
> You missed the point. It has to install easily from scratch. That is install
> both server and everything else without much user intervention.
> When I give the software to a client he runs install and the server+my soft
> gets installed.
> You cannot do that with cygwin. Well maybe you can, but I bet is not that
> easy.
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Justin Clift wrote: > Christoph Dalitz wrote: > >> I guess Karthikeyan has pirated this version, so the "good person from this list" >> probably has good reasons to remain in the dark... > > > It sounds more like a Beta version of PeerDirect's native PostgreSQL port. Instead of being all secretive and stuff aboutit, people who want legitimate access to the Beta version can probably email to: > > Michael Furgal <mikef@multera.com> > > And ask if they're willing to accept more beta testers. It's reasonably likely they'd say yes. http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2002-11/msg00414.php Jochem
Hi guys, There is a project on Gborg.postgresql.org called WinMaster that's supposed to make the cygwin version of PostgreSQL very easy, but not sure how developed it is yet. Just emailed the author (Igor) about it, in the hopes that he has something ready for people to use. :-) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift Aurangzeb M. Agha wrote: > OK -- I see what you mean. > > Yes, you're right. This can be a prob. In fact, I have the same issue > with my biz-dev folks tha need to install our app on their laptops. > Having to go through cygwin and install PostgreSQL is something they they > can't grasp. > > Rgs, > Aurangzeb > > > > >>Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:09:26 +0200 >>From: "Pirtea Calin Iancu" <pcalin@rdsor.ro> >>To: "PostgreSQL General List" <pgsql-general@postgresql.org> >>Subject: Re: Re PostgreSQL on Windows >>Message-ID: <018d01c2bb37$4a9884a0$0263a8c0@dizzy> >> >>You missed the point. It has to install easily from scratch. That is install >>both server and everything else without much user intervention. >>When I give the software to a client he runs install and the server+my soft >>gets installed. >>You cannot do that with cygwin. Well maybe you can, but I bet is not that >>easy. > > -- "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there." - Indira Gandhi
Jochem van Dieten wrote: <snip> > > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2002-11/msg00414.php Thanks Jochem. That's nice of them. Looks like everyone is allowed to use their Beta version then. :-) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift > Jochem > > -- "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there." - Indira Gandhi
Robert Treat wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 09:19, Patric Bechtel wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 15:06:22 +0100, Christoph Dalitz wrote: > > > > This "good" person on the list reached a beta of the 7.2 server around, > > so no REAL prob. It's some porting effort from multera. > > But AFAIK PostgreSQL is GPL'ed, so it is not allowed to modify and > > sell only? So ANY copy of whom ever modified PostgreSQL HAS to be free, > > or am I wrong? So how can it be pirated? > > > > PostgreSQL is distributed under a BSD license, so people can make > changes to the code and keep them closed source. AFAIK this is what > dbexperts has done, so someone that used their source code to make there > own distribution would be pirating the software. First of all, I think dbExperts did no native Port. I have the 7.2 version of dbExperts PostgreSQL on the shelf. The dbxlibs.dll is considerably smaller and contains only 37 occurences of the string "cygwin" - an original cygwin1.dll contains 185. But as tou said, PostgreSQL is distributed under a BSD license, so it is not our problem. Jan -- #======================================================================# # It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. # # Let's break this rule - forgive me. # #================================================== JanWieck@Yahoo.com #