Thread: Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: AW: More UB-Tree patent information]

Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: AW: More UB-Tree patent information]

From
postgresql@fruru.com
Date:
Hannu Krosing wrote:
>
> Have you found out _what_ exaclty is patented ?
>
> Is it just his concrete implementation of "UB-Tree" or something
> broader, like using one multi-dimensional index instead of multiple
> one-dimensional ones ?

(I know it is OT, please reply in private, I can summarize any reactions
to the list ...)

Patents are supposed to be only applicable to an industrial application
(with external side-effects).  So ideas in themselves are not patentable.

Anyway, this is once more a good example of the danger of software patents
- you know what to reply when people say "software patents promote
innovation"

IANAL, just my 0,02 Euro.

see also : http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/savingeurope.html (also
interesting for non-europeans, of course !)

--
Tycho Fruru            tycho.fruru@conostix.com
"Prediction is extremely difficult. Especially about the future."
  - Niels Bohr



Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: AW: More UB-Tree patent information]

From
Jean-Luc Lachance
Date:
I while ago I used xbase2pg and pg2xbase.
You should be able to find it on the net.

postgresql@fruru.com wrote:
>
> Hannu Krosing wrote:
> >
> > Have you found out _what_ exaclty is patented ?
> >
> > Is it just his concrete implementation of "UB-Tree" or something
> > broader, like using one multi-dimensional index instead of multiple
> > one-dimensional ones ?
>
> (I know it is OT, please reply in private, I can summarize any reactions
> to the list ...)
>
> Patents are supposed to be only applicable to an industrial application
> (with external side-effects).  So ideas in themselves are not patentable.
>
> Anyway, this is once more a good example of the danger of software patents
> - you know what to reply when people say "software patents promote
> innovation"
>
> IANAL, just my 0,02 Euro.
>
> see also : http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/savingeurope.html (also
> interesting for non-europeans, of course !)
>
> --
> Tycho Fruru                     tycho.fruru@conostix.com
> "Prediction is extremely difficult. Especially about the future."
>   - Niels Bohr
>
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Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: AW: More UB-Tree patent information]

From
Jean-Luc Lachance
Date:
Sorry all.
I replied to the wrong message.

Jean-Luc Lachance wrote:
>
> I while ago I used xbase2pg and pg2xbase.
> You should be able to find it on the net.
>
> postgresql@fruru.com wrote:
> >
> > Hannu Krosing wrote:
> > >
> > > Have you found out _what_ exaclty is patented ?
> > >
> > > Is it just his concrete implementation of "UB-Tree" or something
> > > broader, like using one multi-dimensional index instead of multiple
> > > one-dimensional ones ?
> >
> > (I know it is OT, please reply in private, I can summarize any reactions
> > to the list ...)
> >
> > Patents are supposed to be only applicable to an industrial application
> > (with external side-effects).  So ideas in themselves are not patentable.
> >
> > Anyway, this is once more a good example of the danger of software patents
> > - you know what to reply when people say "software patents promote
> > innovation"
> >
> > IANAL, just my 0,02 Euro.
> >
> > see also : http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/savingeurope.html (also
> > interesting for non-europeans, of course !)
> >
> > --
> > Tycho Fruru                     tycho.fruru@conostix.com
> > "Prediction is extremely difficult. Especially about the future."
> >   - Niels Bohr
> >
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Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: AW: More UB-Tree patent information]

From
postgresql@fruru.com
Date:
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 postgresql@fruru.com wrote:

> Anyway, this is once more a good example of the danger of software patents
> - you know what to reply when people say "software patents promote
> innovation"

We (AEL, an association promoting freedom in every sense) have just now
put on-line a page which contains known software patents and the behaviour
of their respective owners wrt Free Software. (We have several
patent-related queries outstanding right now)

http://www.ael.be/node.php?id=52

We hope that this becomes a valuable source of information on which
patent's implementations are available for Free Software work, and which
aren't.  We also include some contact information to ease communication
with the patent holder.

Of course, we encourage people on the "incompatible with Free Software"
category to inform us of any licensing changes they implement which
facilitate Free Software implementations, so that we can promptly update
the page accordingly.

Best Regards,
Tycho

--
Tycho Fruru            tycho.fruru@conostix.com
"Prediction is extremely difficult. Especially about the future."
  - Niels Bohr