Thread: Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Licence: GNU/GPL

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Licence: GNU/GPL

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> >
> > I have to admit you hit on exactly why I worded the original as I did.
> > It emphasizes the commonality of the two licenses, and specifically
> > points out the the part of the GPL that we don't like, without slamming
> > it.
>
> That wording invites responses from people who want to give you reasons
> to change it.  Do you want to put the issue to bed or invite more debate?

I guess my goal is to have a paragraph that tries to show the value of
the BSD license.  Saying we just don't like the GPL isn't telling people
what we dislike about it. It opens up questions of why we don't like it,
and it is more confrontational that I would like to be towards the GPL.
Many GPL folks are GPL because they don't understand the nature of the
GPL restrictions in practice and why the BSD license may be better for
them.  The wording I used attempts to "reach out that hand" as someone
said. to the other side, in a nice way.

What we could try is the more gentile wording and if that causes too
much chatter, we can clamp down on the wording and give a more
confrontational tone.

--
  Bruce Momjian                        |  http://candle.pha.pa.us
  pgman@candle.pha.pa.us               |  (610) 853-3000
  +  If your life is a hard drive,     |  830 Blythe Avenue
  +  Christ can be your backup.        |  Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Licence: GNU/GPL

From
Vince Vielhaber
Date:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I have to admit you hit on exactly why I worded the original as I did.
> > > It emphasizes the commonality of the two licenses, and specifically
> > > points out the the part of the GPL that we don't like, without slamming
> > > it.
> >
> > That wording invites responses from people who want to give you reasons
> > to change it.  Do you want to put the issue to bed or invite more debate?
>
> I guess my goal is to have a paragraph that tries to show the value of
> the BSD license.  Saying we just don't like the GPL isn't telling people
> what we dislike about it. It opens up questions of why we don't like it,

It's really noone's business why any of us dislike it.  My reasons may
or may not be different than yours which may/may not be different from
Marc's, and so on.  Why try to summarize everyone's feelings when it's
unnecessary.  My statement never said that we just don't like it, it
was clear that many of the developers were uncomfortable with its
restrictions.  Break it down.  What are "many of the developers"
uncomfortable with?  The GPL's restrictions.  What's not clear about
that?  It didn't say "many of the developers just don't like it", that
would border on confrontational.  You're not going to change the minds
of those that favor GPL just as you're not going to change the minds
of those that prefer BSD.

Vince.
--
==========================================================================
Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH    email: vev@michvhf.com    http://www.pop4.net
         56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking
        Online Campground Directory    http://www.camping-usa.com
       Online Giftshop Superstore    http://www.cloudninegifts.com
==========================================================================