Thread: [FYI] german postgresql docs

[FYI] german postgresql docs

From
Karsten Schulz
Date:
Hi all,

Christian Stasius (stasius@t-online.de) and I are working on the
translation of the postgresql documentation. Christian has just finished
his work on the tutorial. We are going to translate the other
documents now. The docs will be available online soon, the url will be
posted here.

Please mail me, if you are working on german translations, too.

have fun!

Karsten



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Re: [FYI] german postgresql docs

From
Thomas Lockhart
Date:
> Christian Stasius (stasius@t-online.de) and I are working on the
> translation of the postgresql documentation. Christian has just finished
> his work on the tutorial. We are going to translate the other
> documents now. The docs will be available online soon, the url will be
> posted here.

Great! Are you translating the sgml source docs? If so, should we
include those in the CVS tree, or can you suggest another way of keeping
track of the latest versions?

Also, there was a request from the Spanish translators to coordinate
changes in the source docs, so they can make updates to the
translations. I can generate context diffs from CVS, but if you have
other ideas please speak up.

We've recently seen complete translations in Spanish and Chinese, and
this will be a fantastic addition to the set.

                          - Thomas

Re: [FYI] german postgresql docs

From
"He Weiping(Laser Henry)"
Date:
Thomas Lockhart wrote:

> > Christian Stasius (stasius@t-online.de) and I are working on the
> > translation of the postgresql documentation. Christian has just finished
> > his work on the tutorial. We are going to translate the other
> > documents now. The docs will be available online soon, the url will be
> > posted here.
>
> Great! Are you translating the sgml source docs? If so, should we
> include those in the CVS tree, or can you suggest another way of keeping
> track of the latest versions?
>
> Also, there was a request from the Spanish translators to coordinate
> changes in the source docs, so they can make updates to the
> translations. I can generate context diffs from CVS, but if you have
> other ideas please speak up.
>
> We've recently seen complete translations in Spanish and Chinese, and
> this will be a fantastic addition to the set.
>
>                           - ThomasI

I'v done my SGML tranalation, so I'll very appreciate for the diffs you make
--
for me to upgrade those docs.

Also, you may include them in CVS tree, if you like.

Laser


Re: [FYI] german postgresql docs

From
Karsten Schulz
Date:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
> Great! Are you translating the sgml source docs?

no, not at this moment. Christian translated the HTML code. We are
working to get this DocBook-Stuff running on our machines and we will
switch to SGML-translation, when this is done.

> If so, should we
> include those in the CVS tree, or can you suggest another way of keeping
> track of the latest versions?

I suggest to include our SGML source, when we will have started our work
on SGML. I'm afraid, it will last a couple of weeks before we do so.
But I think it is a good idea to keep the docs in one place.

> [...]
> translations. I can generate context diffs from CVS, but if you have
> other ideas please speak up.

I will tell you, when we will have switched to SGML. diffs sounds great :-)

> We've recently seen complete translations in Spanish and Chinese, and
> this will be a fantastic addition to the set.

Thank you!

have fun,
Karsten


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another error in docs

From
"He Weiping (Laser Henry)"
Date:
in file ref/insert.sgml line 171:
' <literal>date_prod</literal> '
should be
' <literal>len</literal> '

The omitted column is 'len', not 'date_prod';


Laser


Re: another error in docs

From
Thomas Lockhart
Date:
> in file ref/insert.sgml line 171:
> ' <literal>date_prod</literal> '
> should be
> ' <literal>len</literal> '
> The omitted column is 'len', not 'date_prod';

Got it. Thanks.

                 - Thomas

Re: [FYI] german postgresql docs

From
Peter Eisentraut
Date:
Thomas Lockhart writes:

> Great! Are you translating the sgml source docs? If so, should we
> include those in the CVS tree, or can you suggest another way of keeping
> track of the latest versions?

Perhaps we (or someone) could set up a separate CVS module (other than
"pgsql") for these things. We probably don't want to commit to having
these things up to date at release date, and IMHO shipping inaccurate docs
is often worse than shipping none.

Then you could also give access to that CVS module to a wider/different
group of people. That would allow things to move faster for those groups,
since for documentation translations you wouldn't need to wait for code
developers to approve patches that they can't read anyway.

> Also, there was a request from the Spanish translators to coordinate
> changes in the source docs, so they can make updates to the
> translations. I can generate context diffs from CVS, but if you have
> other ideas please speak up.

True, diffs aren't hard to make. But ISTM that diffs are not the ideal
format for humans to process. For example, in my experience, doc diffs
often contain typo and minor word choice fixes, white space/formatting
changes, or sections moved elsewhere, which would make things very hard
for translators to process. Furthermore, since translators probably won't
track documentation updates day-to-day, but rather by release, you will
probably get huge diffs.

A pragmatic approach might be that you simply keep track in your
translated copy which revision (RCS) of the original it corresponds to. If
you get down to updating that file you will probably have to reread the
whole file anyway in order to get an overview of the subject matter. At
that point you can still look at the diffs to get an idea about the extent
of the changes.

As for specific mechanisms, subscribing to the pgsql-committers list might
be a first step. Filter everything that matches "Subject: [COMMITTERS]
pgsql/doc/src/.*" or similar. Put these files into a list of "potentially
outdated", then look at each of them individually as described above.

Just some ideas...

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