Thread: Re: [GENERAL] Should SERIAL column have MAXVAL set on sequence

Re: [GENERAL] Should SERIAL column have MAXVAL set on sequence

From
Jim Nasby
Date:
Moving to -bugs.

On Jul 23, 2007, at 9:02 AM, Woody Woodring wrote:
> I have a table in our DB that functions as a queue with a SERIAL
> column for
> its primary key.  At 4am this weekend I started getting the error:
>
> ERROR:  integer out of range
>
> Which was attributed to the sequence incrementing past the size of
> the int4
> serial column after several years of operation.
>
> I was able to set the sequence back to 1 and everything was happy.
>
> I was wondering if the SERIAL column should set the
> MAXVAL=2147483647 when
> it creates the sequence?
>
> I ended up fixing my queue table with the following to avoid the
> issue in
> the future:
>
> ALTER SEQUENCE transfer_transferid_seq MAXVALUE 2147483647 CYCLE;

I can confirm this is still the case in HEAD:

decibel=# select max_value from s_s_seq ;
       max_value
---------------------
9223372036854775807
(1 row)

This does seem like a bug...
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Jim Nasby                                            jim@nasby.net
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Re: [GENERAL] Should SERIAL column have MAXVAL set on sequence

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Jim Nasby <decibel@decibel.org> writes:
> On Jul 23, 2007, at 9:02 AM, Woody Woodring wrote:
>> I ended up fixing my queue table with the following to avoid the
>> issue in the future:
>>
>> ALTER SEQUENCE transfer_transferid_seq MAXVALUE 2147483647 CYCLE;

> This does seem like a bug...

I see no bug here.  Woody's proposal of making CYCLE be the default
behavior is absolutely, totally unacceptable for most applications:
serial columns are supposed to be unique, not wrap around and re-use old
ID values after awhile.  That means we have to fail when the sequence
passes INT_MAX.  I don't see a lot of reason to prefer failing with
"reached maximum value of sequence" to "integer out of range".

Furthermore, if we did stick a different MAXVALUE on the sequence for an
int4 column, we'd be buying into a bunch of other corner cases:

* do we change the MAXVALUE if you use ALTER COLUMN TYPE to switch
from int4 to int8 or vice versa?

* what if the same sequence is feeding multiple columns?

Right now, SERIAL just creates a sequence, and the user can adjust the
sequence parameters afterwards if he wants to.  I think that behavior
is fine.

            regards, tom lane

Re: [GENERAL] Should SERIAL column have MAXVAL set on sequence

From
Zoltan Boszormenyi
Date:
Jim Nasby =EDrta:
> Moving to -bugs.
>
> On Jul 23, 2007, at 9:02 AM, Woody Woodring wrote:
>> I have a table in our DB that functions as a queue with a SERIAL=20
>> column for
>> its primary key.  At 4am this weekend I started getting the error:
>>
>> ERROR:  integer out of range
>>
>> Which was attributed to the sequence incrementing past the size of=20
>> the int4
>> serial column after several years of operation.
>>
>> I was able to set the sequence back to 1 and everything was happy.
>>
>> I was wondering if the SERIAL column should set the MAXVAL=3D2147483647=
=20
>> when
>> it creates the sequence?
>>
>> I ended up fixing my queue table with the following to avoid the=20
>> issue in
>> the future:
>>
>> ALTER SEQUENCE transfer_transferid_seq MAXVALUE 2147483647 CYCLE;

Did you already delete old records? Otherwise it will create duplicate=20
IDs...
Alternatively you can alter the field to be BIGINT.

> I can confirm this is still the case in HEAD:
>
> decibel=3D# select max_value from s_s_seq ;
>       max_value
> ---------------------
> 9223372036854775807
> (1 row)
>
> This does seem like a bug...

No, it is by design. Nothing is stopping you from altering your sequence
after creating your table with SERIALs. Anyway, [BIG]SERIAL is just
a "macro" in PostgreSQL. BTW sequences were modified to produce
BIGINT values some releases back.

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