Thread: FreshMeat and SourceForge listings out of date again

FreshMeat and SourceForge listings out of date again

From
Jonathan Fuerth
Date:
Hello,

Last July, I made a little utility to help remind people when the
various 3rd-party sites with information about PostgreSQL have
out-of-date information. This utility itself is working fine, but I'm
the only one being notified! As a result, two of the three monitored
sites have been out of date for some time now.

I sent this email to Marc Fournier a week ago, but still haven't heard back:

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There was a discussion on pgsql-advocacy back in July about keeping
the current published version of PostgreSQL up-to-date on Freshmeat,
SourceForge, and Wikipedia.

I offered to create and host a system for checking if the versions
were up-to-date on those three sites and complaining daily via email
if they were not. I have implemented this system, and it's still
working. However, no individual actually stepped forward and agreed to
be notified by this mechanism. As a result, I haven't been sending the
notifications, and the Freshmeat and SourceForge listings have gone
out of date!

You are an obvious candidate for notification, since you're the only
one with access to update the Freshmeat page. May I have your
permission to send you these alerts? I don't want to spam you without
permission!

If there there is anyone else who you feel I should contact with a
similar request (about SourceForge in particular, since I can update
the Wikipedia article myself if necessary), please do let me know.

---

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to take care of this? Does
anyone else want to get added to the annoy list? Here's an example of
what a notification looks like:

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Subject: Version check alert!

Latest version: 8.3.7

freshmeat: <http://freshmeat.net/projects/pgsql/>
needs update!

SourceForge: <http://sourceforge.net/project/platformdownload.php?group_id=9764>
needs update!

Wikipedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PostgreSQL&action=edit>
up to date

---

-Jonathan

Re: FreshMeat and SourceForge listings out of date again

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
On 4/3/09 9:07 AM, Jonathan Fuerth wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Last July, I made a little utility to help remind people when the
> various 3rd-party sites with information about PostgreSQL have
> out-of-date information. This utility itself is working fine, but I'm
> the only one being notified! As a result, two of the three monitored
> sites have been out of date for some time now.

Ah.  Yeah, you need it to notify me and Robert Treat, since we're the
ones with the ability to update stuff.

--Josh


Re: FreshMeat and SourceForge listings out of date again

From
Mike Ellsworth
Date:
>
> Ah.  Yeah, you need it to notify me and Robert Treat, since we're the ones
> with the ability to update stuff.
>
> --Josh

There are only a few a week - but http://downloads.com shows it hasn't
been updated in > 1 year.

Re: FreshMeat and SourceForge listings out of date again

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
On 4/3/09 9:49 AM, Mike Ellsworth wrote:
>> Ah.  Yeah, you need it to notify me and Robert Treat, since we're the ones
>> with the ability to update stuff.
>>
>> --Josh
>
> There are only a few a week - but http://downloads.com shows it hasn't
> been updated in>  1 year.

/me waits on Freshmeat to reset password ...

--Josh


Re: FreshMeat and SourceForge listings out of date again

From
Jonathan Fuerth
Date:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Mike Ellsworth <younicycle@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> There are only a few a week - but http://downloads.com shows it hasn't
> been updated in > 1 year.

This turns out to be a tough site to scrape! Ironically, they probably
designed it with that in mind, but it's hurting them by making stale
content reminders more difficult to generate.

I think the best approach for download.com a.k.a. downloads.com a.k.a.
download.cnet.com would be to set up a single "official" account and
then check the "uploads by this user" page for a current version
number. There are already two such accounts, "Postgresql Community"
and "PostgreSQL Global Development." Each user has a profile page that
lists all their uploads, and that can be scraped easily enough.

Can anyone here claim ownership for one of the accounts I mentioned?
Anyone want to set up another one and let me know so that I can track
it?

-Jonathan

Re: FreshMeat and SourceForge listings out of date again

From
Jonathan Fuerth
Date:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:
> On 4/3/09 9:07 AM, Jonathan Fuerth wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Last July, I made a little utility to help remind people when the
>> various 3rd-party sites with information about PostgreSQL have
>> out-of-date information. This utility itself is working fine, but I'm
>> the only one being notified! As a result, two of the three monitored
>> sites have been out of date for some time now.
>
> Ah.  Yeah, you need it to notify me and Robert Treat, since we're the ones
> with the ability to update stuff.

You are now on the notification list!

I'll wait for confirmation from Robert before adding him, just because
I know I'd be a little put off if someone I don't know started
spamming me without my specific request.

-Jonathan

Re: FreshMeat and SourceForge listings out of date again

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Jonathan,

> I'll wait for confirmation from Robert before adding him, just because
> I know I'd be a little put off if someone I don't know started
> spamming me without my specific request.

What's your Freshmeat ID?  Maybe I can add you to the project.

Updating our FM profile has become pretty painful with the new interface
for an update release.  It's about 45min of data entry.  This was
obviously designed for projects which don't have back-branches.

--Josh


Re: FreshMeat and SourceForge listings out of date again

From
Jonathan Fuerth
Date:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:
>> I'll wait for confirmation from Robert before adding him, just because
>> I know I'd be a little put off if someone I don't know started
>> spamming me without my specific request.
>
> What's your Freshmeat ID?  Maybe I can add you to the project.

My freshmeat ID is jfuerth.

> Updating our FM profile has become pretty painful with the new interface for
> an update release.  It's about 45min of data entry.  This was obviously
> designed for projects which don't have back-branches.

Ouch. I wonder if this could be (semi?) automated. Do the writeups for
each branch come from a predictable place based on the version number?
Or are they written by hand for freshmeat? I know they prefer prose
over bullet lists.

-Jonathan

Re: FreshMeat and SourceForge listings out of date again

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
On 4/3/09 12:15 PM, Jonathan Fuerth wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Josh Berkus<josh@agliodbs.com>  wrote:
>>> I'll wait for confirmation from Robert before adding him, just because
>>> I know I'd be a little put off if someone I don't know started
>>> spamming me without my specific request.
>> What's your Freshmeat ID?  Maybe I can add you to the project.
>
> My freshmeat ID is jfuerth.

You've got permissions now.

--Josh

Re: FreshMeat and SourceForge listings out of date again

From
Robert Treat
Date:
On Friday 03 April 2009 13:57:39 Jonathan Fuerth wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:
> > On 4/3/09 9:07 AM, Jonathan Fuerth wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Last July, I made a little utility to help remind people when the
> >> various 3rd-party sites with information about PostgreSQL have
> >> out-of-date information. This utility itself is working fine, but I'm
> >> the only one being notified! As a result, two of the three monitored
> >> sites have been out of date for some time now.
> >
> > Ah.  Yeah, you need it to notify me and Robert Treat, since we're the
> > ones with the ability to update stuff.
>
> You are now on the notification list!
>
> I'll wait for confirmation from Robert before adding him, just because
> I know I'd be a little put off if someone I don't know started
> spamming me without my specific request.
>

Actually Devrim is the one who usually does the updates, so you should really
add him; though feel free to add me if needed.

--
Robert Treat
Conjecture: http://www.xzilla.net
Consulting: http://www.omniti.com

Re: FreshMeat and SourceForge listings out of date again

From
Devrim GÜNDÜZ
Date:
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 12:07 -0400, Jonathan Fuerth wrote:
> SourceForge:
> <http://sourceforge.net/project/platformdownload.php?group_id=9764>
> needs update!

Done.
--
Devrim GÜNDÜZ, RHCE
devrim~gunduz.org, devrim~PostgreSQL.org, devrim.gunduz~linux.org.tr
                   http://www.gunduz.org

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Re: FreshMeat and SourceForge listings out of date again

From
Jonathan Fuerth
Date:
2009/4/4 Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim@gunduz.org>:
> On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 12:07 -0400, Jonathan Fuerth wrote:
>> SourceForge:
>> <http://sourceforge.net/project/platformdownload.php?group_id=9764>
>> needs update!
>
> Done.

Great! May I add you to the nag list so you get earlier warning next time?

-Jonathan

Re: FreshMeat and SourceForge listings out of date again

From
Devrim GÜNDÜZ
Date:
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 11:00 -0400, Jonathan Fuerth wrote:
> Great! May I add you to the nag list so you get earlier warning next
> time?

Ok. Thanks.
--
Devrim GÜNDÜZ, RHCE
devrim~gunduz.org, devrim~PostgreSQL.org, devrim.gunduz~linux.org.tr
                   http://www.gunduz.org

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