Thread: Anyone do video streaming / podcasting?
All, Last month, David Fetter used Skype to link Postgres geeks in China into our monthly SFPUG meeting for Jeff Davis' presentation. This was extremely popular with the folks in China and they'd like to do it again. We're looking for inexpensive video podcasting equipment to start doing video of the SFPUG presentations. Ideally, we'd really like to stream so that viewers abroad can ask questions over chat. However, neither David nor I have done video streaming or podcasting before. We'd like to find good-but-affordable equipment and some kind of free/cheap streaming service. Not sure where to start, though. Help? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL San Francisco
Josh, sfpug foks,
For a simple-to-medium complexity piece of software consider
Garageband, an Apple OS X solution that helps you create episodes and
works optimal. I can imagine a few of you poring macs, so that's why I
am suggesting this.
You can start with a single external mic, or even your internal
mac mic. You may then upgrade that system by using some mixing console
(~50 bucks), enabling more mics (another 50 bucks per mic), picking up
more than one signal (ie, big rooms, questions and answers between the
physical audience and the guy presenting the talk) therefore improving
the quality and experience.
Note that the previous schema, with the correct software, also
allows you to stream the talks through Internet (radio).
No idea on videoconferencing.
2 cents.
gb.-
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> Last month, David Fetter used Skype to link Postgres geeks in China into our
> monthly SFPUG meeting for Jeff Davis' presentation. This was extremely
> popular with the folks in China and they'd like to do it again.
>
> We're looking for inexpensive video podcasting equipment to start doing video
> of the SFPUG presentations. Ideally, we'd really like to stream so that
> viewers abroad can ask questions over chat.
>
> However, neither David nor I have done video streaming or podcasting before.
> We'd like to find good-but-affordable equipment and some kind of free/cheap
> streaming service. Not sure where to start, though. Help?
>
> --
> Josh Berkus
> PostgreSQL
> San Francisco
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On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 09:36 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: > All, > > Last month, David Fetter used Skype to link Postgres geeks in China into our > monthly SFPUG meeting for Jeff Davis' presentation. This was extremely > popular with the folks in China and they'd like to do it again. > > We're looking for inexpensive video podcasting equipment to start doing video > of the SFPUG presentations. Ideally, we'd really like to stream so that > viewers abroad can ask questions over chat. > > However, neither David nor I have done video streaming or podcasting before. > We'd like to find good-but-affordable equipment and some kind of free/cheap > streaming service. Not sure where to start, though. Help? Yugma is pretty interesting. It allows remote desktop etc.. works on linux/mac and windows. There is a free and non free version. There is also openmeeting which is like gotomeeting but opensource and flash based. As far as "recording" your meetings nothing beats and 300 handycam with firewire. For linux use Kino for Mac use Imovie or whatever it is. PgUS is considering using Yugma Pro for a bunch of stuff. Joshua D. Drake > > -- > Josh Berkus > PostgreSQL > San Francisco > -- PostgreSQL - XMPP: jdrake@jabber.postgresql.org Consulting, Development, Support, Training 503-667-4564 - http://www.commandprompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company, serving since 1997
All, Hmmm. Most of these recommendations aren't really what I was thinking of. We really want a camera in the room to record the speaker and the slides rather than screencasting. And we'd like it to have good sound. So I was looking for recommendations on good-but-affordable camera, microphones, etc. As well as an orientation on *how* to do live streaming video. --Josh
On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 12:51 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: > All, > > Hmmm. Most of these recommendations aren't really what I was thinking > of. We really want a camera in the room to record the speaker and the > slides rather than screencasting. And we'd like it to have good sound. > > So I was looking for recommendations on good-but-affordable camera, > microphones, etc. > Oh! well PGEast/West uses a Panasonic GS90P. Seems to do the job just fine. Joshua D. Drake -- PostgreSQL - XMPP: jdrake@jabber.postgresql.org Consulting, Development, Support, Training 503-667-4564 - http://www.commandprompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company, serving since 1997
Josh, > Oh! well PGEast/West uses a Panasonic GS90P. Seems to do the job just > fine. Yes? How did you deal with mikes? --Josh
Oh. I recently bought a Casio Exilim Camera that comes with a "Youtube compatible" sticker in the front. Rocks, extremely easy. http://cameras.about.com/od/compactcamerareviews/gr/casioyoutube.htm It won't stream, but it will record your video with no headaches! I can certainly imagine a PostgreSQL youtube channel for advocacy purposes. gb.- On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > All, > > Hmmm. Most of these recommendations aren't really what I was thinking of. > We really want a camera in the room to record the speaker and the slides > rather than screencasting. And we'd like it to have good sound. > > So I was looking for recommendations on good-but-affordable camera, > microphones, etc. > > As well as an orientation on *how* to do live streaming video. > > --Josh > > -- > Sent via pgsql-advocacy mailing list (pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org) > To make changes to your subscription: > http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-advocacy >
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 06:57:05PM -0200, Guido Barosio wrote: > Oh. > > I recently bought a Casio Exilim Camera that comes with a "Youtube > compatible" sticker in the front. Rocks, extremely easy. > > http://cameras.about.com/od/compactcamerareviews/gr/casioyoutube.htm > > It won't stream, but it will record your video with no headaches! I think that's the sticking point. What made the earlier (kludged-up, awful) thing I did work so well was that it was live and let the folks in Beijing ask questions while the talk was still going. > I can certainly imagine a PostgreSQL youtube channel for advocacy purposes. That would be excellent! Cheers, David. -- David Fetter <david@fetter.org> http://fetter.org/ Phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Yahoo!: dfetter Skype: davidfetter XMPP: david.fetter@gmail.com Remember to vote! Consider donating to Postgres: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate
On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 13:01 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: > Josh, > > > Oh! well PGEast/West uses a Panasonic GS90P. Seems to do the job just > > fine. > > Yes? How did you deal with mikes? > We just recording directly to the mic on the camera. The downside is you will pick up the environmental noise but it wasn't bad. There are other's that would allow direct av in for the sound I am sure. Joshua D. Drake > --Josh > > -- PostgreSQL - XMPP: jdrake@jabber.postgresql.org Consulting, Development, Support, Training 503-667-4564 - http://www.commandprompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company, serving since 1997
I use an audio-technica PRO 88W wireless mike that I bought in New York at a camera store. It works really well. It cost less than $100, I believe. I don't expect to ever need another in the next 20 years. So I figure it is a good investment. The batteries last about 8 hours. So if you want to go wireless, figure on going through some batteries or get a recharger! Rob On 4/2/09 10:14 AM, "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com> wrote: > On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 13:01 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: >> Josh, >> >>> Oh! well PGEast/West uses a Panasonic GS90P. Seems to do the job just >>> fine. >> >> Yes? How did you deal with mikes? >> > > We just recording directly to the mic on the camera. The downside is you > will pick up the environmental noise but it wasn't bad. There are > other's that would allow direct av in for the sound I am sure. > > Joshua D. Drake > > >> --Josh >> >>
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, David Fetter wrote: > On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 06:57:05PM -0200, Guido Barosio wrote: >> Oh. >> >> I recently bought a Casio Exilim Camera that comes with a "Youtube >> compatible" sticker in the front. Rocks, extremely easy. >> >> http://cameras.about.com/od/compactcamerareviews/gr/casioyoutube.htm >> >> It won't stream, but it will record your video with no headaches! > > I think that's the sticking point. What made the earlier (kludged-up, > awful) thing I did work so well was that it was live and let the folks > in Beijing ask questions while the talk was still going. > >> I can certainly imagine a PostgreSQL youtube channel for advocacy purposes. > > That would be excellent! the BSD community just got one of those for that purpose too ... could start getting podcasts together of the various conference talks too ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
I can provide all manner of camera equipment and sound goodies for "record now / play back later" video, and will be happy to help tape meetings (video production is my day job). The trick is getting the streaming part set up. You need: 1. A machine that can do the on-the-fly encoding; 2. A fast enough link to upload it in realtime; 3. A content delivery network to push it out. This might be an opportunity to approach some of the CDNs to see if they'd be up for doing this as corporate sponsorship. I have a mate who works at BitGravity, and I'll approach him about it. -- Christophe
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Christophe <xof@thebuild.com> wrote: > I can provide all manner of camera equipment and sound goodies for "record > now / play back later" video, and will be happy to help tape meetings (video > production is my day job). The trick is getting the streaming part set up. > You need: > > 1. A machine that can do the on-the-fly encoding; > 2. A fast enough link to upload it in realtime; > 3. A content delivery network to push it out. > > This might be an opportunity to approach some of the CDNs to see if they'd > be up for doing this as corporate sponsorship. I have a mate who works at > BitGravity, and I'll approach him about it. I don't think anybody has mentioned ustream yet. When I was working on the Blinkenlights Stereoscope installation, we used ustream to distribute a live video feed of the building around the world. We also used it ourselves for monitoring, since we were in the building. It worked fine! The round-trip delay was maybe 3-4 seconds. It does require a machine that supports audio and video capture via Adobe Flash Player, but plug a firewire camera into pretty much any Mac, and you've got that taken care of. See http://www.ustream.tv/get-started for details. -Jonathan