Thread: Last Week to Participate in PostgreSQL Certification JTA Survey
Hello Everyone!
The PostgreSQL Certification JTA Survey currently underway is nearing its conclusion. The survey will close November 14th at which time the process of reviewing and analyzing the responses will begin. That leaves just under a week to give your thoughts on how a community driven certification should look.
We ask everyone that has not taken the survey to please take a few minutes and follow the instructions below to participate. It is only by your participation that the certification created by this project will be able provide real value to, and reflect the needs and desires of, the PostgreSQL community.
We thank everyone that has already taken the survey. Your answers will be very helpful in the next stage of this project.
How to Participate
To take the survey, please register at:
http://www.postgresqlcertification.org/jta
The registration process takes just a couple of minutes. Once registration is complete and you are logged in, click JTA in the menu followed by “participate in the survey” (http://www.postgresqlcertification.org/job_task_analysis). The survey takes approximately 30 minutes to complete.
Who Should Participate?
Everyone! The entire point of this project is to create a certification by and for the PostgreSQL Community. Do you know someone that uses or is considering using PostgreSQL or another database? Encourage them to participate in the survey as well.
About the PostgreSQL Certification Project
The primary focus of the PostgreSQL Certification Project is the creation and support of a community driven and endorsed series of tiered certifications that provide a standardized method of identifying the knowledge and skills of database professionals working with PostgreSQL.
For more information please visit the project’s site at http://www.postgresqlcertification.org.
If you are interested in joining the project you may subscribe to the project’s mailing list at:
http://lists.postgresqlcertification.org/mailman/listinfo/cert/
Greg, > The PostgreSQL Certification JTA Survey currently underway is nearing > its conclusion. The survey will close November 14^th at which time the > process of reviewing and analyzing the responses will begin. That leaves > just under a week to give your thoughts on how a community driven > certification should look. As did many, if not most, other people, I found it impossible to submit the survey form. I think you need to do this effort over, using better technology. --Josh
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 22:31 +0100, Josh Berkus wrote: > Greg, > > > The PostgreSQL Certification JTA Survey currently underway is nearing > > its conclusion. The survey will close November 14^th at which time the > > process of reviewing and analyzing the responses will begin. That leaves > > just under a week to give your thoughts on how a community driven > > certification should look. > > As did many, if not most, other people, I found it impossible to submit > the survey form. I think you need to do this effort over, using better > technology. I am sorry you are having trouble Josh. It might be helpful if you let the certification project know you were having problems. That is over here: http://www.postgresqlcertification.org/ There is also a mailing list here: http://lists.postgresqlcertification.org/mailman/listinfo/cert/ Where you could report such an issue. I would not let this issue sour your experience. The PostgreSQL Certification project has garnered a 50% response rate on the JTA. That is Presidential election percentages. I am quite pleased with the result. I would also note that all reports we have had of people not being able to take the survey is because they didn't set up an account. I notice that you "just" set up your account. Are you still having issues? What is the error you are receiving? Joshua D. Drake > > --Josh > > --
Josh, > I am sorry you are having trouble Josh. It might be helpful if you let > the certification project know you were having problems. That is over > here: I didn't bother because I saw that there were already several dozen comments reporting exactly my issues, and that these comments had not been responded to on the page. > I would not let this issue sour your experience. The PostgreSQL > Certification project has garnered a 50% response rate on the JTA. That > is Presidential election percentages. I am quite pleased with the > result. Um, 50% of what? > I would also note that all reports we have had of people not being able > to take the survey is because they didn't set up an account. I notice > that you "just" set up your account. Are you still having issues? What > is the error you are receiving? I get the nonsensical questions which others have already reported. I also get the "this page has performed an illegal operation" error, which prevents submitting the survey. --Josh
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 23:01 +0100, Josh Berkus wrote: > Josh, > > > I am sorry you are having trouble Josh. It might be helpful if you let > > the certification project know you were having problems. That is over > > here: > > I didn't bother because I saw that there were already several dozen > comments reporting exactly my issues, and that these comments had not > been responded to on the page. I just reviewed the comments and the page doesn't reflect your observations. There are 14 (at the time of this writing) comments of which 11 are feedback and suggestions for improvement to the JTA. We will review those comments as the JTA closes. We can't change the survey in the middle of the submission period, it would invalidate the survey. There are 3 comments pointing out specific problems in submission which are certainly unfortunate. I am reviewing this page which you can only get to if logged in: http://www.postgresqlcertification.org/job_task_analysis If you are viewing a page that has feedback that is more in line with your observations please let the project know so we can resolve the issues. > > > I would not let this issue sour your experience. The PostgreSQL > > Certification project has garnered a 50% response rate on the JTA. That > > is Presidential election percentages. I am quite pleased with the > > result. > > Um, 50% of what? So far 50% of 400. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake --
Josh, >> Um, 50% of what? > > So far 50% of 400. Well, if you have 200 responses, seems like you probably have plenty of feedback already. --Josh
Josh Berkus wrote: > Josh, > >>> Um, 50% of what? >> >> So far 50% of 400. > > Well, if you have 200 responses, seems like you probably have plenty of > feedback already. 400 what?
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 18:18 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: > > Josh, > > > >>> Um, 50% of what? > >> > >> So far 50% of 400. > > > > Well, if you have 200 responses, seems like you probably have plenty of > > feedback already. > > 400 what? We have 400 registered users, of which ~ 200 have responded to the JTA. Joshua D. Drake > --
On 11 nov 2008, at 00.20, "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 18:18 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: >> Josh Berkus wrote: >>> Josh, >>> >>>>> Um, 50% of what? >>>> >>>> So far 50% of 400. >>> >>> Well, if you have 200 responses, seems like you probably have >>> plenty of >>> feedback already. >> >> 400 what? > > We have 400 registered users, of which ~ 200 have responded to the > JTA. > > >> Afaik the only reason to register a user so far is to fill out the survey. (the fact that it's yet-another-stupid-web-account is why I personally haven't bothered to do it yet - probably should ignore that annoyance-factor before it closes). If that is so, I find a 50% completion rate from those who *did* bother to create another account rather alarming really! Why did the other 50% abort half way? /Magnus
Re: Last Week to Participate in PostgreSQL Certification JTA Survey
> -----Original Message----- > From: Joshua D. Drake [mailto:jd@commandprompt.com] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 4:21 PM > To: Dan Langille > Cc: Josh Berkus; Gregory S. Youngblood; pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Last Week to Participate in PostgreSQL > Certification JTA Survey > > On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 18:18 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > > Josh Berkus wrote: > > > Josh, > > > > > >>> Um, 50% of what? > > >> > > >> So far 50% of 400. > > > > > > Well, if you have 200 responses, seems like you probably have > plenty of > > > feedback already. > > > > 400 what? > > We have 400 registered users, of which ~ 200 have responded to the JTA. [Greg says] That's rather disappointing... that means ~200 took the time to register but elected not to complete the survey (or ran into bugs/problems).