Thread: Reminder of PUGs posting policy to News and -announce
WWW and moderators, As a reminder, in our approval policy: http://developer.postgresql.org/index.php/NewsEventsApproval We decided that PUGS would be entitled to post to -announce and /about/news for two kinds of meetings: 1. their very first meeting 2. extra-special events like developer days ... but not for regular meetings. I'm mentioning this because within the last week we've had an attempted posting of a regular monthly meeting, and the posting of a first meeting appears to have been rejected. Since we'll have 5-8 new PUGS coming online in the next 6 months, let's make sure to keep to the policy. Thanks! -- --Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:29:07 -0800 Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > WWW and moderators, > > As a reminder, in our approval policy: > http://developer.postgresql.org/index.php/NewsEventsApproval > > We decided that PUGS would be entitled to post to -announce > and /about/news for two kinds of meetings: > > 1. their very first meeting > 2. extra-special events like developer days > > ... but not for regular meetings. > > I'm mentioning this because within the last week we've had an > attempted posting of a regular monthly meeting, and the posting of a > first meeting appears to have been rejected. Since we'll have 5-8 > new PUGS coming online in the next 6 months, let's make sure to keep > to the policy. Thanks! > Does this policy exist outside of this post? (like on the wiki) Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL SPI Liaison | SPI Director | PostgreSQL political pundit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHtMKAATb/zqfZUUQRAhypAJwJ0QTTDj9sSY9r/I1SxDGwmlM0yACfQQFI zxM9i4ktWClcEbtFG0zdRr8= =oW5j -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
[taking this off -www for a marketing discussion] On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > WWW and moderators, > > As a reminder, in our approval policy: > http://developer.postgresql.org/index.php/NewsEventsApproval > > We decided that PUGS would be entitled to post to -announce and /about/news > for two kinds of meetings: > > 1. their very first meeting > 2. extra-special events like developer days Ok, that makes sense. If all 15+ groups posted all their meeting announcements every month, it would probably double the traffic on -announce :) Do you have some suggestions for announcing the regional events? In the past, groups seem to fade into obscurity after a few months -- even if they are meeting regularly. Posting only to the PUG lists I think misses out on a huge opportunity to contact people who are travelling, are new to PostgreSQL or didn't subscribe to their regional mailing lists because of some other reason (not necessarily because they never want to attend a meeting!). Mailing lists are still the most effective way to let people know about events (way better than blogs/rss/etc) -- and while some people *do* search for regional information, most do not. Am I missing another obvious place to post meeting announcements? -selena -- Selena Deckelmann PDXPUG - Portland PostgreSQL Users Group http://pugs.postgresql.org/pdx http://www.chesnok.com/daily
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:40:17 -0800 "Selena Deckelmann" <selenamarie@gmail.com> wrote: > Do you have some suggestions for announcing the regional events? In > the past, groups seem to fade into obscurity after a few months -- > even if they are meeting regularly. Posting only to the PUG lists I > think misses out on a huge opportunity to contact people who are > travelling, are new to PostgreSQL or didn't subscribe to their > regional mailing lists because of some other reason (not necessarily > because they never want to attend a meeting!). What if we instead posted *once* monthly of all the meetings that are going to happen? Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL SPI Liaison | SPI Director | PostgreSQL political pundit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHtMQgATb/zqfZUUQRAoPgAKCJtqSst75ytqvLgOqOscU+j0AIowCghbxN 24SaoC74g9L1Og+HryhZis0= =ZNkm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com> wrote: > On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:40:17 -0800 > "Selena Deckelmann" <selenamarie@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Do you have some suggestions for announcing the regional events? > > What if we instead posted *once* monthly of all the meetings that are > going to happen? Oh! That's a good idea :) Any objections? I could collect meeting announcements from the PUG leaders and post something the first week of the month. -selena -- Selena Deckelmann PDXPUG - Portland PostgreSQL Users Group http://pugs.postgresql.org/pdx http://www.chesnok.com/daily
On Thursday 14 February 2008 14:36, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:29:07 -0800 > > Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > > WWW and moderators, > > > > As a reminder, in our approval policy: > > http://developer.postgresql.org/index.php/NewsEventsApproval > > > > We decided that PUGS would be entitled to post to -announce > > and /about/news for two kinds of meetings: > > > > 1. their very first meeting > > 2. extra-special events like developer days > > > > ... but not for regular meetings. > > > > I'm mentioning this because within the last week we've had an > > attempted posting of a regular monthly meeting, and the posting of a > > first meeting appears to have been rejected. Since we'll have 5-8 > > new PUGS coming online in the next 6 months, let's make sure to keep > > to the policy. Thanks! > > Does this policy exist outside of this post? (like on the wiki) How about reading my whole reply? Scroll up. ;-) -- --Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
Selena, Josh, > Oh! That's a good idea :) > > Any objections? I could collect meeting announcements from the PUG > leaders and post something the first week of the month. Actually, if you could collect them by Friday every week, the could go into PWN. I was trying to think if we could do something clever with RSS feeds, but I couldn't think of anything. -- --Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
Josh Berkus wrote: > Selena, Josh, > >> Oh! That's a good idea :) >> >> Any objections? I could collect meeting announcements from the PUG >> leaders and post something the first week of the month. > > Actually, if you could collect them by Friday every week, the could go into > PWN. +1 for that. > I was trying to think if we could do something clever with RSS feeds, but I > couldn't think of anything. Well, we could create another category of events and do it that way if we wanted to. Or an RSS feed off the pugs page itself? //Magnus
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: > > Selena, Josh, > > > >> Oh! That's a good idea :) > >> > >> Any objections? I could collect meeting announcements from the PUG > >> leaders and post something the first week of the month. > > > > Actually, if you could collect them by Friday every week, the could go into > > PWN. > > +1 for that. I'll send them to David, also. (I didn't quite understand what PWN meant until Josh's latest message. I kept thinking 'owned'.) I am going to create a separate message, however, because too much consolidation is going to make the announcements invisible. I read all of the weekly news, every week, but I think many people skim it. > > I was trying to think if we could do something clever with RSS feeds, but I > > couldn't think of anything. > > Well, we could create another category of events and do it that way if > we wanted to. Or an RSS feed off the pugs page itself? Drupal automatically generates a number of feeds. For example, you can go to http://pugs.postgresql.org/blog and you'll find the RSS for all blog entries on the site is automatically generated. -selena -- Selena Deckelmann PDXPUG - Portland PostgreSQL Users Group http://pugs.postgresql.org/pdx http://www.chesnok.com/daily
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:05:59 -0800 Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > On Thursday 14 February 2008 14:36, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:29:07 -0800 > > > > Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > > > WWW and moderators, > > > > > > As a reminder, in our approval policy: > > > http://developer.postgresql.org/index.php/NewsEventsApproval > How about reading my whole reply? Scroll up. ;-) > Bah! :P touche! Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL SPI Liaison | SPI Director | PostgreSQL political pundit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHtMwGATb/zqfZUUQRAo1aAJ9rD0mGMJXz1T7aE265BlZvQM0dJACeLPNB Sf87NvoPTwB/4+hItw5/5ys= =XmYz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Thursday 14 February 2008 17:40, Selena Deckelmann wrote: > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > > We decided that PUGS would be entitled to post to -announce and /about/news > > for two kinds of meetings: > > > > 1. their very first meeting > > 2. extra-special events like developer days > > Ok, that makes sense. If all 15+ groups posted all their meeting > announcements every month, it would probably double the traffic on > -announce :) > > Do you have some suggestions for announcing the regional events? What about using rss feeds for regular meetings and events? robert
Joshua D. Drake wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:40:17 -0800 > "Selena Deckelmann" <selenamarie@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Do you have some suggestions for announcing the regional events? In >> the past, groups seem to fade into obscurity after a few months -- >> even if they are meeting regularly. Posting only to the PUG lists I >> think misses out on a huge opportunity to contact people who are >> travelling, are new to PostgreSQL or didn't subscribe to their >> regional mailing lists because of some other reason (not necessarily >> because they never want to attend a meeting!). > > What if we instead posted *once* monthly of all the meetings that are > going to happen? Then create new list for events. -- Dan Langille - http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference: http://www.bsdcan.org/ PGCon - The PostgreSQL Conference: http://www.pgcon.org/
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 02:40:17PM -0800, Selena Marie Deckelmann wrote: > [taking this off -www for a marketing discussion] > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > > WWW and moderators, > > > > As a reminder, in our approval policy: > > http://developer.postgresql.org/index.php/NewsEventsApproval > > > > We decided that PUGS would be entitled to post to -announce and /about/news > > for two kinds of meetings: > > > > 1. their very first meeting > > 2. extra-special events like developer days > > Ok, that makes sense. If all 15+ groups posted all their meeting > announcements every month, it would probably double the traffic on > -announce :) > > Do you have some suggestions for announcing the regional events? In > the past, groups seem to fade into obscurity after a few months -- > even if they are meeting regularly. Posting only to the PUG lists I > think misses out on a huge opportunity to contact people who are > travelling, are new to PostgreSQL or didn't subscribe to their > regional mailing lists because of some other reason (not necessarily > because they never want to attend a meeting!). > > Mailing lists are still the most effective way to let people know > about events (way better than blogs/rss/etc) -- and while some > people *do* search for regional information, most do not. Am I > missing another obvious place to post meeting announcements? Well, there's the local section of the Postgres Weekly News, so we could batch them up into weekly chunks :) Cheers, David. -- David Fetter <david@fetter.org> http://fetter.org/ Phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Yahoo!: dfetter Skype: davidfetter XMPP: david.fetter@gmail.com Remember to vote! Consider donating to Postgres: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate