Thread: Sun releases for us?
Speaking of PR departments, it seems Sun Microsystems just released our beta for us ;-) http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2198253,00.asp This just goes to prove that all PR departments (including Berkus :P) and all journalists make this kind of mistakes :) You might want to correct it though. /Magnus
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 09:37 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote: > Speaking of PR departments, it seems Sun Microsystems just released our > beta for us ;-) > > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2198253,00.asp > > > This just goes to prove that all PR departments (including Berkus :P) and > all journalists make this kind of mistakes :) You might want to correct > it though. > It just looked like a news release for the beta from Sun's perspective. It seemed very positive to me. What caught your attention? Is it already corrected or am I missing something? Regards, Jeff Davis
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 09:55 -0700, Jeff Davis wrote: > It just looked like a news release for the beta from Sun's perspective. > It seemed very positive to me. > > What caught your attention? Is it already corrected or am I missing > something? It's already been corrected (the original text said something to the effect that "the first beta of Version 8.3 of the open-source PostgreSQL database has been released by Sun Microsystems"). -Neil
> It just looked like a news release for the beta from Sun's perspective. > It seemed very positive to me. > > What caught your attention? Is it already corrected or am I missing > something? > > Regards, > Jeff Davis > I believe it was the phrasing of the 1st sentence: "Sun Microsystems released the first beta of Version 8.3 .... instead of "Sun announced that PostgreSQL had released ..."
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:55:47 -0700 Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 09:37 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote: > > Speaking of PR departments, it seems Sun Microsystems just released > > our beta for us ;-) > > > > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2198253,00.asp > > > > > > This just goes to prove that all PR departments (including > > Berkus :P) and all journalists make this kind of mistakes :) You > > might want to correct it though. > > > > It just looked like a news release for the beta from Sun's > perspective. It seemed very positive to me. > > What caught your attention? Is it already corrected or am I missing > something? Well it is written in a way that makes it appear that Sun somehow released PostgreSQL 8.3 Beta. However on second read it is no where near as nefarious as other releases I have seen out there. The only issue I would take is this: The final release is expected in about eight weeks, he said at Sun's Open Source Summit press event here. The way it is written it appears we are somehow tying our release to Sun's marketing timing which is of course BS. This likely has nothing to do with Berkus and everything to do with a reporters ability to actual report facts, which I find extremely limited in general. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > > Regards, > Jeff Davis > > > > > ---------------------------(end of > broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 5: don't forget to increase > your free space map settings > -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ UNIQUE NOT NULL Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/
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Josh, > The final release is expected in about eight weeks, he said at Sun's > Open Source Summit press event here. Well, I said "6 to 9 weeks, depending on how beta goes". I guess you could average that as "about 8 weeks". > The way it is written it appears we are somehow tying our release to > Sun's marketing timing which is of course BS. How does it appear that way? > This likely has nothing to do with Berkus and everything to do with a > reporters ability to actual report facts, which I find extremely > limited in general. Apparently in this particular case it had more to do with an interfering editor. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:28:02 -0700
Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:
> Josh,
>
> > The final release is expected in about eight weeks, he said at Sun's
> > Open Source Summit press event here.
>
> Well, I said "6 to 9 weeks, depending on how beta goes". I guess
> you could average that as "about 8 weeks".
>
> > The way it is written it appears we are somehow tying our release to
> > Sun's marketing timing which is of course BS.
>
> How does it appear that way?
It is just the way I read it. Like I said, I don't really see a big
deal with this release.
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The final release is expected in about eight weeks, he said at Sun's
Open Source Summit press event here.
'''
On first read, I read that as "PostgreSQL is releasing at the Open
Source Summit press event".
On second read I see that isn't what was meant by the wording. Still a
little obtuse though :)
>
> > This likely has nothing to do with Berkus and everything to do with
> > a reporters ability to actual report facts, which I find extremely
> > limited in general.
>
> Apparently in this particular case it had more to do with an
> interfering editor.
>
Which you and I have both had experience with :)... Pesky editors.
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
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jd@commandprompt.com ("Joshua D. Drake") writes:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:28:02 -0700
> Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:
>> Apparently in this particular case it had more to do with an
>> interfering editor.
>
> Which you and I have both had experience with :)... Pesky editors.
That's why I prefer Emacs... ;-)
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