Thread: PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007

PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007

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"Joshua D. Drake"
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PostgreSQL.Org is having a one day technical conference in Portland,
Oregon on October 20th 2007. The conference will be held at Portland
State University, and like PDXPGDay during OSCON there will be a dinner
and party afterward.

If you are near the following metropolitan areas you are 2.5
hours or less away: San Francisco, Seattle, Denver, Phoenix, Portland.
You do not want to miss this conference!

All donations for registration to this conference will be going
*directly* to PostgreSQL.Org via Software in the Public Interest, a
501(c)3 non-profit corporation . For more information please visit
http://www.postgresqlconference.org/

Joshua D. Drake

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Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007

From
"Stuart Cooper"
Date:
> PostgreSQL.Org is having a one day technical conference in Portland,
> Oregon on October 20th 2007. The conference will be held at Portland
> State University, and like PDXPGDay during OSCON there will be a dinner
> and party afterward.

This is wrongly advertised (and dead-linked) on the homepage of
http://www.postgresql.org for 20th September.

Somebody should tidy that up.

Cheers,
Stuart.

Re: PostgreSQL.Org (was: PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007)

From
Magnus Hagander
Date:
(this is not actually about the conference, but..)

On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 02:28:30PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> PostgreSQL.Org is having a one day technical conference in Portland,

What the heck is PostgreSQL.Org? Two things:

First, our domain is postgresql.org. Not PostgreSQL.Org. That just looks
weird and ugly, really. I thought we had previously agreed on not messing
it up like that?

Second, what does that refer to? AFAIK, we "refer to ourselves" as PGDG?
In what way is this other designation different?

//Magnus

Re: PostgreSQL.Org

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"Joshua D. Drake"
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Magnus Hagander wrote:
> (this is not actually about the conference, but..)
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 02:28:30PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>> PostgreSQL.Org is having a one day technical conference in Portland,
>
> What the heck is PostgreSQL.Org? Two things:
>
> First, our domain is postgresql.org. Not PostgreSQL.Org. That just looks
> weird and ugly, really. I thought we had previously agreed on not messing

I do not agree with you case suggestion.

> it up like that?
>
> Second, what does that refer to? AFAIK, we "refer to ourselves" as PGDG?
> In what way is this other designation different?

Nobody knows about PGDG except hackers.

Everyone knows what PostgreSQL.Org is.


Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake














>
> //Magnus
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Re: PostgreSQL.Org

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"Joshua D. Drake"
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Magnus Hagander wrote:
> (this is not actually about the conference, but..)
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 02:28:30PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>> PostgreSQL.Org is having a one day technical conference in Portland,
>
> What the heck is PostgreSQL.Org? Two things:
>
> First, our domain is postgresql.org. Not PostgreSQL.Org. That just looks
> weird and ugly, really. I thought we had previously agreed on not messing
> it up like that?

O.k. if this is the case then why the heck on the front page does it say:

PGDay, the first European PostgreSQL conference

Or is your complaint that I uppercased the O in .Org?

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

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Re: PostgreSQL.Org

From
Alvaro Herrera
Date:
Joshua D. Drake wrote:

> Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > (this is not actually about the conference, but..)
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 02:28:30PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> >> PostgreSQL.Org is having a one day technical conference in Portland,
> >
> > What the heck is PostgreSQL.Org? Two things:
> >
> > First, our domain is postgresql.org. Not PostgreSQL.Org. That just looks
> > weird and ugly, really. I thought we had previously agreed on not messing
> > it up like that?
>
> O.k. if this is the case then why the heck on the front page does it say:
>
> PGDay, the first European PostgreSQL conference
>
> Or is your complaint that I uppercased the O in .Org?

I think the problem is that you uppercased letters in an url.

As a suggestion, if you want to refer to the PostgreSQL community, why
not just say "the PostgreSQL community"?  That way you avoid getting the
guys on their nerves.

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Re: PostgreSQL.Org

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"Joshua D. Drake"
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Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Joshua D. Drake wrote:

>> PGDay, the first European PostgreSQL conference
>>
>> Or is your complaint that I uppercased the O in .Org?
>
> I think the problem is that you uppercased letters in an url.
>
> As a suggestion, if you want to refer to the PostgreSQL community, why
> not just say "the PostgreSQL community"?  That way you avoid getting the
> guys on their nerves.

Well honestly, I didn't even know it was a problem. I am of no opinion
either way. I can change it on postgresqlconference.org. I was just
trying to be as explicit as possible.

Joshua D. Drake





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Re: PostgreSQL.Org

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Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
>>> PGDay, the first European PostgreSQL conference
>>>
>>> Or is your complaint that I uppercased the O in .Org?
>> I think the problem is that you uppercased letters in an url.
>
>> As a suggestion, if you want to refer to the PostgreSQL community, why
>> not just say "the PostgreSQL community"?  That way you avoid getting the
>> guys on their nerves.
>
> Well honestly, I didn't even know it was a problem. I am of no opinion
> either way. I can change it on postgresqlconference.org. I was just
> trying to be as explicit as possible.

I have changed the PostgreSQL.org (man it is weird to type it that way)
verbiage on the conference site.

Joshua D. Drake


>
> Joshua D. Drake
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007

From
Rainer Bauer
Date:
"Joshua D. Drake" wrote:

>For more information please visit http://www.postgresqlconference.org/

Just to let you know:
There seems to be a problem with the www subdomain:
<http://www.postgresqlconference.org/> is OK, but
<http://postgresqlconference.org/> shows only an empty directory.

Rainer

Re: PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007

From
"Dan Langille"
Date:
On 30 Aug 2007 at 17:54, Rainer Bauer wrote:

> "Joshua D. Drake" wrote:
>
> >For more information please visit http://www.postgresqlconference.org/
>
> Just to let you know:
> There seems to be a problem with the www subdomain:
> <http://www.postgresqlconference.org/> is OK, but
> <http://postgresqlconference.org/> shows only an empty directory.

It also mentions PGCon Fall 2007 at that URL.  PGCon is not until
spring 2008.

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Re: PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007

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"Joshua D. Drake"
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Dan Langille wrote:
> On 30 Aug 2007 at 17:54, Rainer Bauer wrote:
>
>> "Joshua D. Drake" wrote:
>>
>>> For more information please visit http://www.postgresqlconference.org/
>> Just to let you know:
>> There seems to be a problem with the www subdomain:
>> <http://www.postgresqlconference.org/> is OK, but
>> <http://postgresqlconference.org/> shows only an empty directory.

This is fixed.

>
> It also mentions PGCon Fall 2007 at that URL.  PGCon is not until
> spring 2008.

No it abbreviates PostgreSQL Conference to PGCon in the registration
form. That is all.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake



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Re: PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007

From
"Dan Langille"
Date:
On 30 Aug 2007 at 10:02, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

> Dan Langille wrote:
> > On 30 Aug 2007 at 17:54, Rainer Bauer wrote:
> >
> >> "Joshua D. Drake" wrote:
> >>
> >>> For more information please visit http://www.postgresqlconference.org/
> >> Just to let you know:
> >> There seems to be a problem with the www subdomain:
> >> <http://www.postgresqlconference.org/> is OK, but
> >> <http://postgresqlconference.org/> shows only an empty directory.
>
> This is fixed.
>
> >
> > It also mentions PGCon Fall 2007 at that URL.  PGCon is not until
> > spring 2008.
>
> No it abbreviates PostgreSQL Conference to PGCon in the registration
> form. That is all.

PGCon is pretty well recognized as another existing conference.  I
suggest another expression would be better suited.

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Re: PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007

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"Joshua D. Drake"
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Dan Langille wrote:
> On 30 Aug 2007 at 10:02, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

>>> It also mentions PGCon Fall 2007 at that URL.  PGCon is not until
>>> spring 2008.
>> No it abbreviates PostgreSQL Conference to PGCon in the registration
>> form. That is all.
>
> PGCon is pretty well recognized as another existing conference.  I
> suggest another expression would be better suited.

Not to be unkind, but you named your conference an obvious abbreviation.
Considering the audience we can expect that there will be no confusion
between the two.

Joshua D. Drake



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Re: PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007

From
David Fetter
Date:
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:13:05AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
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> Dan Langille wrote:
> > On 30 Aug 2007 at 10:02, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
> >>> It also mentions PGCon Fall 2007 at that URL.  PGCon is not
> >>> until spring 2008.
> >> No it abbreviates PostgreSQL Conference to PGCon in the
> >> registration form. That is all.
> >
> > PGCon is pretty well recognized as another existing conference.  I
> > suggest another expression would be better suited.
>
> Not to be unkind, but you named your conference an obvious
> abbreviation.  Considering the audience we can expect that there
> will be no confusion between the two.

I think it's a brand, and you can use a different one out of
deference and to avoid confusion. :)

Cheers,
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Re: PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
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> Dan Langille wrote:
> > On 30 Aug 2007 at 10:02, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
> >>> It also mentions PGCon Fall 2007 at that URL.  PGCon is not until
> >>> spring 2008.
> >> No it abbreviates PostgreSQL Conference to PGCon in the registration
> >> form. That is all.
> >
> > PGCon is pretty well recognized as another existing conference.  I
> > suggest another expression would be better suited.
>
> Not to be unkind, but you named your conference an obvious abbreviation.
> Considering the audience we can expect that there will be no confusion
> between the two.

Drake's is going to be "The PGCon".  :-)

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Re: PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007

From
Robert Bernier
Date:
On Thursday 30 August 2007 13:28, David Fetter wrote:
> I think it's a brand, and you can use a different one out of
> deference and to avoid confusion. :)

Come on Josh, pick another term. I know you have a large vocabulary, I've heard you use it! :-)

Robert

Re: PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007

From
"Joshua D. Drake"
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David Fetter wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:13:05AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

>>> PGCon is pretty well recognized as another existing conference.  I
>>> suggest another expression would be better suited.
>> Not to be unkind, but you named your conference an obvious
>> abbreviation.  Considering the audience we can expect that there
>> will be no confusion between the two.
>
> I think it's a brand, and you can use a different one out of
> deference and to avoid confusion. :)

Well I already changed it to Pg Conference, as it really doesn't matter
to me but I would humbly ask then that he remove all references to "The" ;)

Joshua D. Drake

>
> Cheers,
> David.


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Re: PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007

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"Joshua D. Drake"
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Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
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>> Dan Langille wrote:
>>> On 30 Aug 2007 at 10:02, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>>>>> It also mentions PGCon Fall 2007 at that URL.  PGCon is not until
>>>>> spring 2008.
>>>> No it abbreviates PostgreSQL Conference to PGCon in the registration
>>>> form. That is all.
>>> PGCon is pretty well recognized as another existing conference.  I
>>> suggest another expression would be better suited.
>> Not to be unkind, but you named your conference an obvious abbreviation.
>> Considering the audience we can expect that there will be no confusion
>> between the two.
>
> Drake's is going to be "The PGCon".  :-)

I can't... Dan already has The PostgreSQL Conference labeled.

Although please, and this is important. This is not *my* conference. It
a PostgreSQL community conference. All registration donations are being
processed by Software in the Public Interest. All sponsorships are being
processed by Software in the Public Interest. 100% of all donations
collected are being processed by Software in the public interest.

I, and CMD are making zero dollars on this (although we are spending our
fair share to make it happen).

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

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Re: PostgreSQL.Org (was: PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007)

From
Andrew Sullivan
Date:
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:02:40AM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> First, our domain is postgresql.org. Not PostgreSQL.Org. That just looks
> weird and ugly, really. I thought we had previously agreed on not messing
> it up like that?

<hat=dns-fair-expert>

I hate to tell you that every one of the following are exactly
equivalent for resolution purposes in the DNS:

PostgreSQL.org
postgreSQL.org
PostgreSQL.Org
PostgreSQL.ORG
POSTGRESQL.ORG
postgresql.org
PoStGrEsQl.oRg

And any other VaRIOus caPITalisation you care to think of.  DNS is
case-preserving and not case sensitive.  If you want people to find
you through the Web, it makes no difference at all.

</hat>

A

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Re: PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007

From
Ned Lilly
Date:
On 8/30/2007 1:29 PM Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
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>> Dan Langille wrote:
>>> On 30 Aug 2007 at 10:02, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>>>>> It also mentions PGCon Fall 2007 at that URL.  PGCon is not until
>>>>> spring 2008.
>>>> No it abbreviates PostgreSQL Conference to PGCon in the registration
>>>> form. That is all.
>>> PGCon is pretty well recognized as another existing conference.  I
>>> suggest another expression would be better suited.
>> Not to be unkind, but you named your conference an obvious abbreviation.
>> Considering the audience we can expect that there will be no confusion
>> between the two.
>
> Drake's is going to be "The PGCon".  :-)

Maybe The PGConSQL ....



Re: PostgreSQL.Org

From
Ron Mayer
Date:
Andrew Sullivan wrote:
>
> I hate to tell you that every one of the following are exactly
> equivalent for resolution purposes in the DNS:

Sure - they're equivalent for resolution purposes; but not
for human readers. Consider how you would read  "ExpertsExchange.com" vs  "ExpertSexChange.com".
out loud.

> PostgreSQL.Org

In light of the ExpertsExchange example, how would
you expect that to be pronounced?



And if resolution purposes are all that matters, note that
it seems that
% nslookup 'www.\112ostgresql.org'
gives me the same result.

Re: PostgreSQL.Org

From
Andrew Sullivan
Date:
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 12:00:58PM -0700, Ron Mayer wrote:
> Sure - they're equivalent for resolution purposes; but not
> for human readers. Consider how you would read
>    "ExpertsExchange.com" vs
>    "ExpertSexChange.com".
> out loud.

Yes, that's one of the canonical example problems with supposing your
trademarked name will appear correctly in the DNS.

> > PostgreSQL.Org
>
> In light of the ExpertsExchange example, how would
> you expect that to be pronounced?

"Postgres community", of course :)  (More seriously,
"Postgress-queue-ell-dot-org", given that's how I pronounce it.)

A

> And if resolution purposes are all that matters, note that
> it seems that
> % nslookup 'www.\112ostgresql.org'
> gives me the same result.

Sure.  (Although I'll point out that nslookup has been deprecated for
some years now, MSFT aside.)

A

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Re: PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007

From
Chris Browne
Date:
bruce@momjian.us (Bruce Momjian) writes:
> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
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>> Dan Langille wrote:
>> > On 30 Aug 2007 at 10:02, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>>
>> >>> It also mentions PGCon Fall 2007 at that URL.  PGCon is not until
>> >>> spring 2008.
>> >> No it abbreviates PostgreSQL Conference to PGCon in the registration
>> >> form. That is all.
>> >
>> > PGCon is pretty well recognized as another existing conference.  I
>> > suggest another expression would be better suited.
>>
>> Not to be unkind, but you named your conference an obvious abbreviation.
>> Considering the audience we can expect that there will be no confusion
>> between the two.
>
> Drake's is going to be "The PGCon".  :-)

Is this "putting the 'con' into PgCon"?  :-)
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Why  are  they  called   buildings,  when  they're  already  finished?
Shouldn't they be called builts?