Thread: CyberSquatter
Hi all, There is in France a society, with no link to PostgreSQL that uses the domain names postgresql.fr and postgres.fr. I think they registered these domain names a few years ago, certainly before the french association was registered. I'm not sure they did before Jean-Paul Argudo registered PostgreSQLFr.org. Is there a legal way to take back these domain names. Regards, -- Stéphane SCHILDKNECHT Président de PostgreSQLFr http://www.PostgreSQLFr.org
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 03:20:16PM +0100, Stéphane Schildknecht wrote: > Hi all, > > There is in France a society, with no link to PostgreSQL that uses the > domain names postgresql.fr and postgres.fr. I think they registered > these domain names a few years ago, certainly before the french > association was registered. I'm not sure they did before Jean-Paul > Argudo registered PostgreSQLFr.org. > > Is there a legal way to take back these domain names. My guess is that it depends on how the rules are set up for the .fr top level domain. There should be documents available at whomever the authority for that TLD is, I think. //Magnus
Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 03:20:16PM +0100, Stéphane Schildknecht wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> There is in France a society, with no link to PostgreSQL that uses the >> domain names postgresql.fr and postgres.fr. I think they registered >> these domain names a few years ago, certainly before the french >> association was registered. I'm not sure they did before Jean-Paul >> Argudo registered PostgreSQLFr.org. >> >> Is there a legal way to take back these domain names. > > My guess is that it depends on how the rules are set up for the .fr top > level domain. There should be documents available at whomever the > authority for that TLD is, I think. Yes, for the most part it is just first come first served and there is nothing you can do except offer to buy it from them. Some countries however may have restrictions. eg with .com.au until recently you needed to have a registered business/company name that matched the domain you were registering. <Disclaimer> I am not a legal expert - just throwing some ideas around </Disclaimer> Unless they are using the domains for some sort of extortion to get money from us, or they are using the domain to misrepresent PostgreSQL then you probably don't have much to work with from a legal standpoint. If they were misrepresenting PostgreSQL then you may only be able to get them to cease and remove defamatory material not necessarily get them to give up the domain. -- Shane Ambler pgSQL@Sheeky.Biz Get Sheeky @ http://Sheeky.Biz
Stephane, > There is in France a society, with no link to PostgreSQL that uses the > domain names postgresql.fr and postgres.fr. I think they registered > these domain names a few years ago, certainly before the french > association was registered. I'm not sure they did before Jean-Paul > Argudo registered PostgreSQLFr.org. > > Is there a legal way to take back these domain names. I do not believe that we ever had those domain names. I believe they have always belonged to the current news gateway operator, Open-Source.fr. It has not been the practice of the PostgreSQL project to assert trademark against domain holders. It is dubious at this point whether we *could* do so, as the defendant would be able to point to numerous domains which the PGDG does not control. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
Stephane, Oh, also has anyone in PostgreSQL France contacted Cit@delle to see if they would be willing to donate or sell the domain? They seem to be friendly to open source. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
Josh Berkus a écrit : > Stephane, > > Oh, also has anyone in PostgreSQL France contacted Cit@delle to see if they > would be willing to donate or sell the domain? They seem to be friendly to > open source. > Stéphane sent them a mail today. We are waiting for an answer :) Regards. -- Guillaume. <!-- http://abs.traduc.org/ http://lfs.traduc.org/ http://docs.postgresqlfr.org/ -->