Thread: Getting better Google search results

Getting better Google search results

From
"Greg Sabino Mullane"
Date:
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I had an idea while discussing the limitations of our searching
on irc with a few folks. As far as Google putting old 7.x and
6.x documentation results up, why not create a new subdomain
such as oldocs.postgres.org and stick anything older than a
version of two there. We could still link to it, and leave some
redirects in place for old links, but the new subdomain would
ensure that they would have relatively *low* Google results
compared to the more recent docs, which is what we want.

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Re: Getting better Google search results

From
"Magnus Hagander"
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Wouldn't this be better on -www? :-P


> I had an idea while discussing the limitations of our searching on
> irc with a few folks. As far as Google putting old 7.x and 6.x
> documentation results up, why not create a new subdomain such as
> oldocs.postgres.org and stick anything older than a version of two
> there. We could still link to it, and leave some redirects in place
> for old links, but the new subdomain would ensure that they would
> have relatively *low* Google results compared to the more recent
> docs, which is what we want.

Don't we have enough silly domains already? If we want to get rid of
those hits, why don't we just add a robots.txt and tell google not to
index the old docs at all? (If people *need* hits in the old docs, they
can always hit our own search engine for those docs)

//Magnus


Re: Getting better Google search results

From
"Greg Sabino Mullane"
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> Wouldn't this be better on -www? :-P

I considered that, but this seems more of an advocacy problem
with a technical solution. I thought the wider advocacy audience
might have some ideas about it.

> Don't we have enough silly domains already? If we want to get rid of
> those hits, why don't we just add a robots.txt and tell google not to
> index the old docs at all? (If people *need* hits in the old docs, they
> can always hit our own search engine for those docs)

I considered that, but I would not want to completely eliminate the
old docs from Google searching. There's always a chance something useful is
there. However, since 99.9% of generic non-version specific searches should
*not* hit those pages, it's best to stick those on the "e" in
Goooooooooooooooooooooooogle. :)

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Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com
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Re: [pgsql-www] Getting better Google search

From
Devrim GUNDUZ
Date:
Hello,

On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 09:56 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:

> Don't we have enough silly domains already?

Heh.

olddocs.postgresql.org
veryolddocs.postgresql.org
atticdocs.postgresq
rarelyuseddocs.postgresql.org

...
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Re: [pgsql-www] Getting better Google search

From
Robert Treat
Date:
On Tuesday 29 August 2006 10:20, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 09:56 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > Don't we have enough silly domains already?
>
> Heh.
>
> olddocs.postgresql.org
> veryolddocs.postgresql.org
> atticdocs.postgresq
> rarelyuseddocs.postgresql.org
>

ifyouarestillrunningthisversionthedocswonthelpyou.postgresql.org

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Re: [pgsql-www] Getting better Google search

From
"Joshua D. Drake"
Date:
Robert Treat wrote:
> On Tuesday 29 August 2006 10:20, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 09:56 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>> Don't we have enough silly domains already?
>> Heh.
>>
>> olddocs.postgresql.org
>> veryolddocs.postgresql.org
>> atticdocs.postgresq
>> rarelyuseddocs.postgresql.org
>>
>
> ifyouarestillrunningthisversionthedocswonthelpyou.postgresql.org

Let's just shorten that to:

youarefscked.postgresql.org

Joshua D. Drake




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Re: Getting better Google search results

From
"Dawid Kuroczko"
Date:
On 8/29/06, Greg Sabino Mullane <greg@turnstep.com> wrote:
> I had an idea while discussing the limitations of our searching
> on irc with a few folks. As far as Google putting old 7.x and
> 6.x documentation results up, why not create a new subdomain
> such as oldocs.postgres.org and stick anything older than a
> version of two there. We could still link to it, and leave some
> redirects in place for old links, but the new subdomain would
> ensure that they would have relatively *low* Google results
> compared to the more recent docs, which is what we want.

Wouldn't it be feasible to add a "see current version" link
which would link from all the old versions to the most current
one?  Say, a page
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/static/ecpg-errors.html
...would have a line in a header:
Home → Documentation → Manuals → PostgreSQL 7.4 (See current version)
...where (See current version) would link to:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/ecpg-errors.html

As far as I understand how Google works, this would push
the link density towards the current version of PostgreSQL,
therefore 8.1 should pop out as top results.

Just a thought. :)

   Regards,
      Dawid