Thread: Re: [HACKERS] [OT] MySQL is bad, but THIS bad?
Moving to -advocacy, bcc to -hackers. On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 08:11:42AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > When MySQL is at that > >point, which database do you think executives will be choosing? The one > >with a very large userbase and lots of marketing and PR that they've > >heard plenty about, > > All due respect, Jim -- but don't you work for a publicly traded > database company that happens to have its own version of PostgreSQL? Actually, we haven't had a distribution of PostgreSQL since 8.0.3, and even then it was only a distribution; the bits were all community. > This is really a discussion for your marketing (and mine frankly) then > the PostgreSQL mailing lists :) Yes and no... should MySQL eventually become popular enough that there's little use of PostgreSQL that hurts the community just as much as it hurts our companies. In fact, I'd say it's already hurting the community more than our companies; look at how many people lament about running software XYZ because it only supports MySQL. Or about trying to find PostgreSQL hosting providers. But yes, the group of PostgreSQL companies should also be working to raise awareness of PostgreSQL as a very viable OSS database. Unfortunately, a lot of the commercial interest is in the higher-end market. And to a large extent, this really needs to be a grass-roots effort. After all, you don't win OSS mindshare by taking out ads or anything like that. So I think this really needs to be a joint venture between companies and the community. -- Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant jnasby@pervasive.com Pervasive Software http://pervasive.com work: 512-231-6117 vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf cell: 512-569-9461
Jim C. Nasby wrote: > Yes and no... should MySQL eventually become popular enough that there's > little use of PostgreSQL that hurts the community just as much as it > hurts our companies. In fact, I'd say it's already hurting the community > more than our companies; look at how many people lament about running > software XYZ because it only supports MySQL. Or about trying to find > PostgreSQL hosting providers. With Linux, it was open for developers to join in, and that fueled its growth. In fact, some say Linux gained only because it was more open the *BSD. Fortunately for us, MySQL foster open development, which means they will never catch us in the long run. -- Bruce Momjian http://candle.pha.pa.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Jim C. Nasby wrote:
>> Yes and no... should MySQL eventually become popular enough that there's
>> little use of PostgreSQL that hurts the community just as much as it
>> hurts our companies. In fact, I'd say it's already hurting the community
>> more than our companies; look at how many people lament about running
>> software XYZ because it only supports MySQL. Or about trying to find
>> PostgreSQL hosting providers.
>
> With Linux, it was open for developers to join in, and that fueled its
> growth. In fact, some say Linux gained only because it was more open
> the *BSD.
I would agree with this. BSD at one time made Linux look like a toy. If
the *core* of the BSD teams would have been more open in there
development, linux would probably be relegated to also ran status.
Fortunately for us, MySQL foster open development, which
> means they will never catch us in the long run.
>
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> > Fortunately for us, MySQL foster open development, which > > means they will never catch us in the long run. Sorry, I meant to say: Fortunately for us, MySQL _do_ _not_ foster open development, which means they will never catch us in the long run. -- Bruce Momjian http://candle.pha.pa.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +