Thread: Wikipedia help requested, especially non-English speakers

Wikipedia help requested, especially non-English speakers

From
"Greg Sabino Mullane"
Date:
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I've been working a lot on the Wikipedia PostgreSQL page, but I'd like
to see other people jump in as well - the article still needs a lot of
cleaning up, and I know this community has some good writers. Anyone
can edit the page, found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostgreSQL

It's better if you actually create an account. Not only will it make
talking about the page easier, you can add the page (and others)
to your watchlist to monitor vandalism.

If you speak a non-English language, please take a look at the
specific Wikipedia sites for your language - almost all of them
contain older translated versions of the English PG page and
need updating. Of course, if you find some good content on them,
add it back the English page so we can propogate it everywhere.
Other sites can be found by plugging in the language code as the
first part of the domain. For example, the Germany and Spanish
Wikipedia pages on PG are at:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostgreSQL

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostgreSQL

Please take a moment to check out the pages for any language you
know (and there are a lot more languages in Wikipedia than the 2 above).
Thanks!

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Re: Wikipedia help requested, especially non-English speakers

From
"Reko Turja"
Date:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@turnstep.com>
To: <pgsql-general@postgresql.org>
Cc: <pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org>; <pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 6:42 PM
Subject: [pgsql-advocacy] Wikipedia help requested, especially
non-English speakers

> I've been working a lot on the Wikipedia PostgreSQL page, but I'd like
> to see other people jump in as well - the article still needs a lot of
> cleaning up, and I know this community has some good writers. Anyone
> can edit the page, found here:

> If you speak a non-English language, please take a look at the
> specific Wikipedia sites for your language - almost all of them
> contain older translated versions of the English PG page and

> Please take a moment to check out the pages for any language you
> know (and there are a lot more languages in Wikipedia than the 2
> above).
> Thanks!

http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostgreSQL

Translated your text into Finnish and recreated the Finnish page leaving
some stuff from previous versions (notably the "Tuetut
käyttöjärjestelmät" - Supported operating systems part.) Translated text
below:

Postgres runs on most UNIX-based systems as well as clones including
HP-UX, Solaris, BSD-variants, MAC OS X and Linux. From the version 8.0
onwards there has been native Microsoft Windows support as well.

In addition I made the comparison of PostgreSQL to the Apache and *BSD
projects because Linux has no core team as such - the mentioned projects
resemble PSQL development model more closely IMHO.

There is some pretty neutral stuff comparing PostgreSQL and MySQL I left
from the earlier verion in second chapter.

Thanks for Greg and earlier writers (english & finnish) for the harder
part of the work :)

-Reko


Re: [GENERAL] Wikipedia help requested, especially non-English

From
Dennis Bjorklund
Date:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:

> I've been working a lot on the Wikipedia PostgreSQL page, but I'd like
> to see other people jump in as well

What license do the following logotype image have?

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:PostgreSQL_Logo.png

It would be good if this image could be uploaded to Wikipedia Commons,
then it could be used by all the different Wikipedia projects (and
languages)  for postgresql related articles. They are however very strict
with what license they allow.

Wikipedia commons only allow images licensed as Public Domain or GPL.

--
/Dennis Björklund


Re: [GENERAL] Wikipedia help requested, especially non-English

From
Peter Eisentraut
Date:
Dennis Bjorklund wrote:
> What license do the following logotype image have?
>
>   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:PostgreSQL_Logo.png

We should get rid of all logos having Postgre and SQL in different
colors because it will just lead more people to pronounce the name
wrong.

--
Peter Eisentraut
http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/

Re: [GENERAL] Wikipedia help requested, especially

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Dennis Bjorklund wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Nov 2005, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
>
>> I've been working a lot on the Wikipedia PostgreSQL page, but I'd like
>> to see other people jump in as well
>
> What license do the following logotype image have?
>
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:PostgreSQL_Logo.png
>
> It would be good if this image could be uploaded to Wikipedia Commons,
> then it could be used by all the different Wikipedia projects (and
> languages)  for postgresql related articles. They are however very strict
> with what license they allow.
>
> Wikipedia commons only allow images licensed as Public Domain or GPL.

Removing the "name" from the Logo would be more appropriate, as PeterE
points out in another note ... as for the logo itself, its Public Domain
(nothing we do is GPL) ...

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Re: [GENERAL] Wikipedia help requested, especially non-English

From
Robert Treat
Date:
On Sunday 13 November 2005 03:14, Dennis Bjorklund wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2005, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
> > I've been working a lot on the Wikipedia PostgreSQL page, but I'd like
> > to see other people jump in as well
>
> What license do the following logotype image have?
>
>   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:PostgreSQL_Logo.png
>
> It would be good if this image could be uploaded to Wikipedia Commons,
> then it could be used by all the different Wikipedia projects (and
> languages)  for postgresql related articles. They are however very strict
> with what license they allow.
>
> Wikipedia commons only allow images licensed as Public Domain or GPL.

That's goofy... the wikipedia "commons" wont accept creative commons licenses?
That's what we've licesed all of the new logos under...
http://www.postgresql.org/community/propaganda

--
Robert Treat
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL

Re: Wikipedia help requested, especially

From
"Greg Sabino Mullane"
Date:
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>> Wikipedia commons only allow images licensed as Public Domain or GPL.

For the record, this is for the commons - there are exceptions for things
like logos and such for the main wikipedia section.

> Removing the "name" from the Logo would be more appropriate, as PeterE
> points out in another note ... as for the logo itself, its Public Domain
> (nothing we do is GPL) ...

Good to know. I created a new version without the name, uploaded it, and put it
on the page. Can we possibly put all the PG images on one page (the "propoganda"
one no longer has the main image, for example) and clearly state somewhere
that they are all (or which ones are) public domain? I'll be happy to add
things to the commons once I have a URL to point people to as proof of public
domain status.

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Re: Wikipedia help requested, especially

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
They should all be uploaded to: http://pgfoundry.org/projects/graphics

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:

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>>> Wikipedia commons only allow images licensed as Public Domain or GPL.
>
> For the record, this is for the commons - there are exceptions for things
> like logos and such for the main wikipedia section.
>
>> Removing the "name" from the Logo would be more appropriate, as PeterE
>> points out in another note ... as for the logo itself, its Public Domain
>> (nothing we do is GPL) ...
>
> Good to know. I created a new version without the name, uploaded it, and put it
> on the page. Can we possibly put all the PG images on one page (the "propoganda"
> one no longer has the main image, for example) and clearly state somewhere
> that they are all (or which ones are) public domain? I'll be happy to add
> things to the commons once I have a URL to point people to as proof of public
> domain status.
>
> - --
> Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com
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Re: [GENERAL] Wikipedia help requested, especially

From
Dennis Bjorklund
Date:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Robert Treat wrote:

> > Wikipedia commons only allow images licensed as Public Domain or GPL.
>
> That's goofy... the wikipedia "commons" wont accept creative commons
> licenses?

Hmm, on a swedish doc page they list Public Domain and GPL, but on the
english information they allow a lot more licenses. Seems I was misguided.

Here is the real info:

  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing

Sorry for the confusion.

--
/Dennis Björklund


Re: [GENERAL] Wikipedia help requested, especially non-English speakers

From
merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date:
>>>>> "Greg" == Greg Sabino Mullane <greg@turnstep.com> writes:

Greg> It's better if you actually create an account. Not only will it make
Greg> talking about the page easier, you can add the page (and others)
Greg> to your watchlist to monitor vandalism.

And, some Wikipedians uses un-logged-in edits as a high indicator that
the work is vandalism, and get prepared to revert.  It's odd... being
logged in gives you *more* anonymity, not less. :) But the vandals
don't understand that... yet.

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