Thread: Request for support for GIST enhancements
I have CC'ed this over to advocacy in hopes that someone will be able to get support for this work. Please email Oleg if you can financially assist. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oleg Bartunov wrote: > Hi there, > > I want to inform that we began to work on concurrency and recovery > support in GiST on our's own account and hope to be ready before 8.1 > code freeze. There was some noise about possible sponsoring of our work, > but we didn't get any offering yet, so we're looking for sponsorhip ! > > We recognize that current GiST doesn't conform to enterprize level and > our people starting experience difficulties using our extensions in > production environment. That's why we decided to meet the wishes of > GiST users not waiting real sponsorship. > > Our plan is to implement recovery first because we'll use LSN as NSN > (node sequence number) needed for concurrency. > > Fpr details see "Concurrency and Recovery in Generalized Search Trees" > by M. Kornacker, C.Mohan, J. Hellerstein. > > > > Regards, > Oleg > _____________________________________________________________ > Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet, > Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia) > Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/ > phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83 > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate > subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your > message can get through to the mailing list cleanly > -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
We had a lot of interest in sponsoring this before, can we get support up again? How do we fundraise for this feature? Can we set up some sort of paypal thing on postgresql.org? I for one am willing to donate some of the proceeds of some current paid phpPgAdmin work (assuming the other devs don't mind :) ) Chris Bruce Momjian wrote: > I have CC'ed this over to advocacy in hopes that someone will be able to > get support for this work. Please email Oleg if you can financially > assist. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Oleg Bartunov wrote: > >>Hi there, >> >>I want to inform that we began to work on concurrency and recovery >>support in GiST on our's own account and hope to be ready before 8.1 >>code freeze. There was some noise about possible sponsoring of our work, >>but we didn't get any offering yet, so we're looking for sponsorhip ! >> >>We recognize that current GiST doesn't conform to enterprize level and >>our people starting experience difficulties using our extensions in >>production environment. That's why we decided to meet the wishes of >>GiST users not waiting real sponsorship. >> >>Our plan is to implement recovery first because we'll use LSN as NSN >>(node sequence number) needed for concurrency. >> >>Fpr details see "Concurrency and Recovery in Generalized Search Trees" >>by M. Kornacker, C.Mohan, J. Hellerstein. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> Oleg >>_____________________________________________________________ >>Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet, >>Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia) >>Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/ >>phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83 >> >>---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >>TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate >> subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your >> message can get through to the mailing list cleanly >> > >
Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > We had a lot of interest in sponsoring this before, can we get support > up again? How do we fundraise for this feature? Can we set up some > sort of paypal thing on postgresql.org? I for one am willing to donate > some of the proceeds of some current paid phpPgAdmin work (assuming the > other devs don't mind :) ) There is a couple of ways to do it. Paypal IMHO is not the way. One way would be to set up an escrow that was tied to specific milestones. Another would be to have an entity actually be the distribution point. That entity can be a corporation such as Command Prompt or even just a trust through an attorney. However it is good to have some level of entity do it because if you get commercial backing the companies can right off the money as outside services and actually receive an invoice etc... Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > > Chris > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> I have CC'ed this over to advocacy in hopes that someone will be able to >> get support for this work. Please email Oleg if you can financially >> assist. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> Oleg Bartunov wrote: >> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> I want to inform that we began to work on concurrency and recovery >>> support in GiST on our's own account and hope to be ready before 8.1 >>> code freeze. There was some noise about possible sponsoring of our work, >>> but we didn't get any offering yet, so we're looking for sponsorhip ! >>> >>> We recognize that current GiST doesn't conform to enterprize level and >>> our people starting experience difficulties using our extensions in >>> production environment. That's why we decided to meet the wishes of >>> GiST users not waiting real sponsorship. >>> >>> Our plan is to implement recovery first because we'll use LSN as NSN >>> (node sequence number) needed for concurrency. >>> >>> Fpr details see "Concurrency and Recovery in Generalized Search >>> Trees" by M. Kornacker, C.Mohan, J. Hellerstein. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Oleg >>> _____________________________________________________________ >>> Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet, >>> Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia) >>> Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/ >>> phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83 >>> >>> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >>> TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate >>> subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your >>> message can get through to the mailing list cleanly >>> >> >> > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? > > http://archives.postgresql.org -- Your PostgreSQL solutions provider, Command Prompt, Inc. 24x7 support - 1.800.492.2240, programming, and consulting Home of PostgreSQL Replicator, plPHP, plPerlNG and pgPHPToolkit http://www.commandprompt.com / http://www.postgresql.org
Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > > We had a lot of interest in sponsoring this before, can we get support > > up again? How do we fundraise for this feature? Can we set up some > > sort of paypal thing on postgresql.org? I for one am willing to donate > > some of the proceeds of some current paid phpPgAdmin work (assuming the > > other devs don't mind :) ) > > There is a couple of ways to do it. Paypal IMHO is not the way. One > way would be to set up an escrow that was tied to specific milestones. > Another would be to have an entity actually be the distribution point. I have acted as a go-between before in this capacity. I do not recommend a company in that role. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
Bruce Momjian wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: >>There is a couple of ways to do it. Paypal IMHO is not the way. One >>way would be to set up an escrow that was tied to specific milestones. >>Another would be to have an entity actually be the distribution point. > > > I have acted as a go-between before in this capacity. I do not > recommend a company in that role. In some cases it can be easier for a company when another company is involved because then there's someone who can deal with all the accounts payable & international money transfer stuff that would make my current CFO cringe. The guys that run PostGIS are contributing $2000 themselves and are willing to handle some of that paperwork for companies that want it. http://postgis.refractions.net/pipermail/postgis-users/2005-June/008294.html But yeah, in general I agree with Bruce that other than corporate paperwork reasons I'd rather go directly (with something like paypal) or through at least through the dev team.
> > In some cases it can be easier for a company when another company > is involved because then there's someone who can deal with all > the accounts payable & international money transfer stuff that > would make my current CFO cringe. > > The guys that run PostGIS are contributing $2000 themselves > and are willing to handle some of that paperwork for > companies that want it. > http://postgis.refractions.net/pipermail/postgis-users/2005-June/008294.html > > > But yeah, in general I agree with Bruce that other than > corporate paperwork reasons I'd rather go directly (with something > like paypal) or through at least through the dev team. Sure and I don't argue that except for the reasons that you have already mentioned ;). However I wouldn't use paypal. If you really want to use an intermediary like that, use www.escrow.com or something. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- Your PostgreSQL solutions company - Command Prompt, Inc. 1.800.492.2240 PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Programming, 24x7 support Managed Services, Shared and Dedicated Hosting Co-Authors: plPHP, plPerlNG - http://www.commandprompt.com/
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Ron Mayer wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: >> Joshua D. Drake wrote: >>> There is a couple of ways to do it. Paypal IMHO is not the way. One >>> way would be to set up an escrow that was tied to specific milestones. >>> Another would be to have an entity actually be the distribution point. >> >> >> I have acted as a go-between before in this capacity. I do not >> recommend a company in that role. > > In some cases it can be easier for a company when another company > is involved because then there's someone who can deal with all > the accounts payable & international money transfer stuff that > would make my current CFO cringe. > > The guys that run PostGIS are contributing $2000 themselves > and are willing to handle some of that paperwork for > companies that want it. > http://postgis.refractions.net/pipermail/postgis-users/2005-June/008294.html It's very nice news ! In turn, I can say GiST recovery just passes first test. > > But yeah, in general I agree with Bruce that other than > corporate paperwork reasons I'd rather go directly (with something > like paypal) or through at least through the dev team. I have account in citibank :), so I could accept money transfer. Please note, no checks ! > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? > > http://archives.postgresql.org > Regards, Oleg _____________________________________________________________ Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet, Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia) Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/ phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83