Thread: Of Conventions: PHPCon & Comdex
Folks, I've been meaning to post this for a while and have been distracted. PHPCON West was great. We had a staffed table for both days, and about 1/2 of the attendees stopped to talk to us. Both PostgreSQL sessions were well-attended and well-received. We should definitely make regular attendence at PHPCon a plan; is there anyone here who could lead sessions at PHPCon East? Bruce, how was PHPCon Worldwide in Frankfurt? Now, the sad news. We will NOT be having a table at Comdex. Several significant problems have arisen for several of the attendees, including schedule conflicts and money issues. Tom Lane will still be doing the Open Source database panel, but that will be it. We really hope to attend next year, when we (and they) are better organized. -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
Josh Berkus wrote: > Folks, > > I've been meaning to post this for a while and have been distracted. > > PHPCON West was great. We had a staffed table for both days, and about 1/2 > of the attendees stopped to talk to us. Both PostgreSQL sessions were > well-attended and well-received. We should definitely make regular > attendence at PHPCon a plan; is there anyone here who could lead sessions at > PHPCon East? > > Bruce, how was PHPCon Worldwide in Frankfurt? Well, I guess I have been supressing my report because I wasn't sure how to handle it, but since you ask, here it is. Basically, the hotel was in the middle of an industrial park near Frankfurt airport, so you really couldn't go out and walk around in the town. That was a shame, though I was warned about it. We did go to Frankfurt during one afternoon, and that was nice. I had two 3-hour tutorials. I had about 20 at the first, and about 10 at the second. I didn't have any talks on the non-tutorial days, though there were tons of MySQL talks. I spent time with a number of folks at the event. One disurbing thing, without going into deals, is that the PHP development community seems to have every disfunction I can think of. That upset me because I assumed open source development communities were just all big, happy places, but the reality I now know is quite different. That scared me and I realized it could happen to PostgreSQL one day if we are not diligent. Sobering. I guess I sort of felt like an outsider at the event, and that was unusual. I did have fun with a few of the guys, though. Strange report, huh? -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
Bruce, > I spent time with a number of folks at the event. One disurbing thing, > without going into deals, is that the PHP development community seems to > have every disfunction I can think of. Really? I'd not had that impression at all from PHPCon West, but I just talked to the development guys one by one, and not all of them were there. I was really excited about porting PHP5 to Parrot, 'cause it means that I can combine my PHP and Perl skills! > That upset me because I assumed > open source development communities were just all big, happy places, but > the reality I now know is quite different. That scared me and I > realized it could happen to PostgreSQL one day if we are not diligent. Hmmm ... try joining a corporate sponsored OSS project, like one sponsored by Sun or IBM. So political it's like running for a local office. One of the things I love about the PostgreSQL project is that nobody on the project considers it acceptable to put their ego ahead of PostgreSQL's growth & survival. -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 12:06:16AM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I had two 3-hour tutorials. I had about 20 at the first, and about 10 > at the second. I didn't have any talks on the non-tutorial days, though > there were tons of MySQL talks. [...] > Strange report, huh? Yep. Last week we had an "Encuentro Nacional de Linux", which is basically that sort of event for the whole lot of open source community in Chile. I gave my usual talk (an hour or so) on Postgres and had my usual share of 100 or 150 people (this is about 1/4 the total attendance, I guess). I'm not a professional speaker by whatever measure so I'm not sure why people keep coming to my talks ;-) Anyway there were some good questions and I received good comments afterwards. I am told there are some people that start using Postgres because of its presence at the Encuentro Nacional. MySQL has never had a talk here. Guess we are not a big enough market for MySQL AB. BTW, there's this article at LWN.net, "MySQL gets more customers, doubles sales" (http://lwn.net/Articles/57920/). If you read the user comments, there are only 2 which do _not_ mention PostgreSQL (out of 7). -- Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>) "Uno puede defenderse de los ataques; contra los elogios se esta indefenso"
Josh Berkus wrote: > > That upset me because I assumed > > open source development communities were just all big, happy places, but > > the reality I now know is quite different. That scared me and I > > realized it could happen to PostgreSQL one day if we are not diligent. > > Hmmm ... try joining a corporate sponsored OSS project, like one sponsored by > Sun or IBM. So political it's like running for a local office. > > One of the things I love about the PostgreSQL project is that nobody on the > project considers it acceptable to put their ego ahead of PostgreSQL's growth > & survival. Yep, that's it in a nutshell. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
Hi all There is a request from the advocacy-site Someone wants to install PostgreSQL on Suse 7.2 and asks which rpm package he must use ?? > (Red Hat 7\.3, 8\.0 oder 9\)\? Any ideas? Regards Conni
Conni, > There is a request from the advocacy-site > > Someone wants to install PostgreSQL on Suse 7.2 and asks which rpm > package he must use ?? There are no RPMs for SuSE 7.2. Only 8.0 and above: ftp://ftp3.us.postgresql.org/pub/postgresql/binary/v7.4/suse They need to either upgrade SuSE or compile from source. -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 04:37 pm, Cornelia Boenigk wrote: > There is a request from the advocacy-site > Someone wants to install PostgreSQL on Suse 7.2 and asks which rpm > package he must use ?? On SuSE _7.2_?!? It comes with a version of PostgreSQL, but that would be a question for Reinhard Max, who maintains the SuSE RPM. Possibly you would want to try getting the 7.4 SuSE source RPM to rebuild on 7.2. I seriously doubt it will rebuild without a lot of work, since the 7.4 RPM was proably developed for whatever the latest SuSE version is. SuSE is considerably different from Red Hat, and I don't recommend using Red Hat RPMs on SuSE. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu
Hi all Could somebody please tell me where the location for downloading PostgreSQL for Mac osx is? Somebody asked for it and I didn't find it. Regards Conni
Conni, > Could somebody please tell me where the location for downloading > PostgreSQL for Mac osx is? Somebody asked for it and I didn't find it. You can install it from source on OSX. Entropy.ch makes Mac packages for OSS software. However, he has not yet built a package for 7.4. It might be helpful for someone to request it, and even make a donation to Marc L. to encourage him to pack it up: http://www.entropy.ch/software/macosx/postgresql/ -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco