Thread: Your database comparison article

Your database comparison article

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Mr. Kaufman,

I quite liked your article about MySQL vs. MS SQL Server:
http://www.zdnet.com.au/builder/architect/database/story/0,2000034918,20272967,00.htm

As a participant in the PostgreSQL Advocacy group, I'd like to invite you to
do a PostgreSQL vs. MS SQL Server comparison as a follow-up article.   Since
I am an experienced professional admin in both database systems, I can help
you get set up for such a comparison.

I look forward to hearing from you.

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco


Re: Your database comparison article

From
"Merlin Moncure"
Date:
Josh Berkus wrote:
> Mr. Kaufman,
>
> I quite liked your article about MySQL vs. MS SQL Server:
>
http://www.zdnet.com.au/builder/architect/database/story/0,2000034918,20
27
> 2967,00.htm
>
I'm not sure I agree.  The article was full of blanket generalizations
(i.e. performance: advantage MySQL) with little or no factual basis
beyond the author's presumed knowledge.  I'm being nitpicky, but these
are generalizations have been hurting postgres for some time (slow,
difficult to install, etc. etc.).  The rest of the article was mostly a
rundown of MySQL's feature list without much of a technical comparison.

The correlation between performance and complexity, (simpler, therefore
faster) is a false one and there are many data paradigms to evaluate
before drawing performance conclusions.  The subtle irony I picked up on
was the article's title: "MySQL or SQL Server: Look beyond politics and
hype" was for an article which IMHO was mostly hype.  Oh well.

Merlin


Re: Your database comparison article

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Merlin,

> I'm not sure I agree.  The article was full of blanket generalizations
> (i.e. performance: advantage MySQL) with little or no factual basis
> beyond the author's presumed knowledge.

<grin>  "You'll get more ants with honey than with salt."

Regardless what anyone thinks of the first article's quality, comparisons of
Postgres vs. MSSQL are *exactly* what we want to see in print.     And we
certainly won't get any cooperation from the writer by criticizing him.

I cannot count the number of journalists we "turned around" on OpenOffice.org
by simply writing them and offering to help with their next
articles/technical problems.    With just a dozen volunteers writing nice,
polite, helpful e-mails to news writers, we were able to make OOo the 2nd or
3rd best known OSS project on the globe.  You'd be surprised how little
positive feedback tech journalists get ... a little goes a long way.

Or, to put it another way:  who are you more likely to help on PGSQL-NOVICE:
the newbie who pleads ignorance and begs politely for assistance, or the
curmudegeon who tells us Postgres docs are crap and he can't find anything?

BTW, this list has public archives.  So if  you criticize a journalist, please
be very aware that s/he may read your post.

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco


Re: Your database comparison article

From
Robert Treat
Date:
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 13:02, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Merlin,
>
> > I'm not sure I agree.  The article was full of blanket generalizations
> > (i.e. performance: advantage MySQL) with little or no factual basis
> > beyond the author's presumed knowledge.
>
> <grin>  "You'll get more ants with honey than with salt."
>
> Regardless what anyone thinks of the first article's quality, comparisons of
> Postgres vs. MSSQL are *exactly* what we want to see in print.     And we
> certainly won't get any cooperation from the writer by criticizing him.
>

Given that the article is fairly well laid out, and doesn't go into to
much technical detail, just reading it made me think of where postgresql
would fit in comparison of the three. When contacting journalists like
this, do you think it best to send in these thoughts already written
down, or just wait and see if the author responds back?

Robert Treat


Re: Your database comparison article

From
"Merlin Moncure"
Date:
Josh Berkus wrote:
> Merlin,
>
> Regardless what anyone thinks of the first article's quality,
comparisons
> of
> Postgres vs. MSSQL are *exactly* what we want to see in print.     And
we
> certainly won't get any cooperation from the writer by criticizing
him.

Point taken.  Also, there is no reason to believe the author's
knowledge, while presumed, is lacking in any way.  By the way, getting
postgres mentioned in any publication is a good thing, so kudos to you
for doing your job: it's more than I've done! (mostly limited to
expressing my opinion).

Merlin


Re: Your database comparison article

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Merlin,

> Point taken.  Also, there is no reason to believe the author's
> knowledge, while presumed, is lacking in any way.  By the way, getting
> postgres mentioned in any publication is a good thing, so kudos to you
> for doing your job: it's more than I've done! (mostly limited to
> expressing my opinion).

Which is fine, on a mailing list.  I haven't done much lately either ... heck,
I wouldn't have seen that article except I have a collegue who spends all his
"free" time web-surfing an obsessively sends me links.

Honestly, getting the press to like you is easy, you just have to like *them*.
Reporters so often get treated like scum or at least condescended to by the
subjects they cover.   Establishing a friendly rapport with a reporter can
ensure our project literally years of favorable coverage.  This is
*especially* true in the online-only tech press, where stringers are paid so
little that their writing is practically a hobby.

At some point in the future, we'll have to centralize contacts with the press.
However, there are so few of us right now that it's not really an issue.

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco